Forum Post: En Masse in DC
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 9:20 a.m. EST by herbaLtea
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There is nothing more that can be accomplished by occupying individual cities across the US. It is incredibly impressive what has already been done, the dedication, motivation and willingness to protest in our home cities. But now is the time for EVERYONE to meet in DC and Occupy the Capital of the US. This will get the attention of all news stations, all policy makes, and everyone benefiting from the corrupt system that governs us all. It's time to bring the protest to where it will be most effective. Capital Hill.
and when you go make this DEMAND
The idea of the banks recovering the loss thru selling the property is, at this time, ludicrous
Idea: Banks should be required to ' Suspend' payments and interest accumulation if a person loses their job during an 'economic downturn' until that person finds a comparable paying job or until the national unemployment rate is less than 5%.
this only changes who owns the money
If you want change it needs to go from #OWS to #ODC and demand Change like the declaration of independence states We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. a march on washington is need and a message to congress clear make changes or its time to get out and put people in who will make the changes needed.
If you want change it needs to go from #OWS to #ODC and demand Change like the declaration of independence states We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. a march on washington is need and a message to congress clear make changes or its time to get out and put people in who will make the changes needed.
Here's a SPECIFIC PLAN FOR DC that over 25,000 people have supported. More than 1900 people have commented on this post on this forum. See why here: http://occupywallst.org/forum/proposed-list-of-demands-please-help-editadd-so-th/
In fact DC is a target rich environment ...
It is coming ... The DC and federal cops are being really cool ... Are you in DC ... Tell the K st or Freedom Plaza General Assemblies to start stepping it up
When #OWS ever gets to DC en masse, they can deliver the following message, which may the only one our elected representatives notice:
Agree. To DC.
Protest Capital Hill? Farmers from all over the country drove tractors to Washington, Internationals, Case, John Deere...on the Belt Way. It was good for a few minutes of video and filler for the evening news. Truckers flooded the DC area, there was more concern over traffic than there was about the voice of the protest.
Occupy Wall Street, Oakland, Phoenix etc is exactly right. If you want someone to listen, first you must get their attention. To get the attention of politicians you have to upset someone else, in this case the 'power brokers'.
It's not going to take that much effort or even organization to encourage an dialogue, what it is going to take is more of the same and chosen delegates to become the voice of OWS. Delegates that will speak for the 99% while the 99% continues to 'make it's voice heard'. A negotiation begins from a position of strength. The Occupiers are that strength.
Like we don't have enough unemployed folks to completely take over Wall St AND DC.
"There is nothing more that can be accomplished by occupying individual cities "
I don't think the cities are complacent
This will NEVER happen! It would take too much effort, organization and leaders to accomplish a move to Washington. OWS is dying a slow death. As the days get colder and accomplishments for OWS are still very far and few between and even then the accomplishments are only accomplishments made within the OWS movement, those involved will lose interest and go home.
Not so fast... #ows WILL Be in D.C. in a matter of weeks.. the Movement has a way of going where the 99% are outraged, and dont think for a Minute that the D.C. Area is NOT among those in the worst income per capita in the Nation. .. There are the out laying areas around the Beltway that have more places to accommodate the Protest.. .. And, we Will be there!
Sorry, the DC metro area has not been affected nearly as much as most of the rest of the country. That's largely because of the presence of the Federal government in the area. It also has one of the highest per capita income levels, lowest hits to real estate market, unemployment is only ~6%, etc. If you look at the city itself, then that changes significantly but there are relatively few people who actually live in the city proper.
DC will not be nearly as accommodating. You will not be able to just take over and occupy some space around here. Any outlying areas where you might will get you no attention at all and will not provide easy access to the city. Park your asses there and nobody will care and you'll be forgotten within about week. lol
You might be able to arrange space on the Mall but that's a big open space without much cover that gets real cold, wet, and windy this time of year. There also are very few places nearby to support needs for food and other basic requirements. You will need permits and all of the rest for any public space. They've dealt with large protests for a long time here and know how to do it very well. You will not be able to just get up and march whenever the mood hits you.
Also significantly, there is much less of a media presence here vs NYC and protests really aren't a very novel thing. 100,000s out for a protest is routine and they have groups larger that OWS around all the time that don't even make the news. And if you start F'ing up the already terrible traffic around here, then you'll be able to watch any support that you might have absolutely plumment. The locals will kick your asses themselves. lmao
If you think that you're going to just show up and do what was done in NYC, well, good luck with that plan.
TY for your reasons to stay out of the City... or are you just worried we WILL be there?
... You Said a lot. However, you forgot to mention it is the SEAT of Government.. and That 'Seat' needs some Restoration by Motivation!
.."lol"..
Just being realistic bud. Come on down. But if you do then you'd better have your shit together a lot better than you do now.
ok.. but be aware, ..i was Raised and Educated in the D.C. area. Been at Every Protest from Resurrection City.. to Getting us out of Nam.. and Human Rights issues.. Worked on the 'Hill'.. Lived in the City.. So..
( sometimes it's the 'Assumptions' that getcha the most!)
Same here. And in that case you should know that what I was saying is all true.
In addition, all of the local NYC-based activists, union, and other groups that comprise a large part of the presense there are going to have to make a much bigger commitment. Big difference in actually living in a tent full time versus going home every night. You just don't have the concentration of those types of groups and people here. Those which do exist tend to be more white-collar, office types most of whom have day jobs making $100K/yr at the headquarters of whatever environmental foundation, NGO, etc., and not many are gonna be just hanging around and sleeping in a damn tent. lol
If you've not been around here for a while then it's changed quite a bit both with huge population growth and with greatly increased security concerns. What you could get away with in the 60s just won't fly now. Different time, different place.
Frank , i have been back since.. and tho you have good points..that will need addressing at the time of occupation.. ( Home land will be there..).. But , where there is a Will, there is a Way!
( cliche`s aside, the Nation's Capitol Needs us there just as Much as Wall Street does.. Both hold those Accountable behind the Walls of their Big Office Buildings.. and BOTH have STREETS too!)
Personally, I think it's the much more appropriate location. All I was saying is that if you do, then you're going to need to be much better organized and prepared and that won't happen with just a bunch of random people showing up and going from there.
You are Absolutely Right.
Damn! That's telling me!
;^)
U guys need a protest emoticon.
YOU need to sign 'The OnLine Peition'..
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/8/stop-the-corruption-on-wall-street/
( and will get back to you about the 'emoticon' once you have Read the Petition, and send it out to all 99%'ers!)
((O))^((O)).... Eyes Wide Open!
Many of us on the outside looking in have been saying this for weeks. The corruptions starts and can be ended in DC, not on Wall Street.