Forum Post: e-parasite bill, Protect IP, look it up, it can DESTROY OWS if passed
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 7, 2011, 1:51 a.m. EST by alfi
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Help stop it while there is still time. The Obama Admin has been trying to pass the E-Parasite, AKA Protect IP Bill. If it passes, it will give the government the authority to control content on the internet, much like China can control the content of the internet in China. OWS, we are about to lose our online power, without it, we are done.
UPDATE:
Bad news: http://anonops.blogspot.com/2011/11/protect-ip-act-breaks-intern...
hopefully we get our right to vote on issues soon, so we can stop this:
If Obama really goes after this movement he will virtually guarentee his own defeat in the next election. I think that would be the acid-test of where his allegance really lies. If he goes after OWS the consequences would be truely frightening because that would surely split the left-wing and make a Republican victory almost a certainty. This possibility is something the movement should consider now, so that there is some kind of plan in place.
Very wise words, thanks. I will reference this link to your comment around other forums, it will get noticed, and we shall overcome no matter what.
Thank you. I am fairly computer illiterate - not so whippy with this stuff. I really appreciate your doing that.
"The bill focuses on websites that have no significant use other than to facilitate copyright infringement, the hacking of copyrighted works, or trademark counterfeiting; or are designed, operated, or marketed by their operator, and facts or circumstances suggest are used, primarily for counterfeiting, copyright infringement, or hacking copyrighted works."
humm... it means alfi, you want to keep websites like the pirate bay up?
doesn't seem like OWS website falls under the purview of this bill... are there any illegitimate sharing of torrents here that i don't know about???
no, not true. The same bill can just as easily be used for other purposes that are of use to the world elite. They can do what they have already done with TV, they OWN TV, they can use the justifications of stopping piracy, to cover up the other reasons they want this bill, and the kind of power that it will give the owners of the media. I am all for stopping piracy, I am NOT for passing a bill that gives power to the 1% over internet content on the grounds of stopping piracy - there are BETTER ways to stop piracy than to pass a bill that allows the gov to control what happens on the internet.
Look this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks
another example of the agenda of those in gov. Their justification for that one is to fight terrorism, sure, but what else can they obviously use it for? they could use it right here in this very forum to mess up the OWS,right? So no, I don't advocate ThePirateBay, I advocate freedom of information.
the copy and paste function could automatically carry the internet link of the source
please explain, (not being sarcastic)
people surf the internet with browser (netscape, mockzilla, integrated exploitation, fickle fox. ...)
those browser can be set to carry the link information when a user copies information from one web site and posts it to another
Whattup? If anything he will ban the opposition or even any credible criticisms of OWS. The wider ideological circle which gave rise to Obama is the very same one that spawned you. I think it's so clever how you all avoid political figures, have just nothing to say even in support of Obama. I think the conversation went like this (and still does): ----------------------((("Just steer clear of any mention of Obama. Definitely don't criticize Republicans or they'll know who you are. Moniitor each other and remind each other if someone can't contain their political speech. Remember, they may bait you by trying to blame Obama. DO NOT RESPOND. However mad you get. We can NOT let this cat out. With the new followers and each outer ring, let them know, no, make them believe, we have no association with the progressives i.e.Obama))) ------------- Ain't that about how it goes? One of the beginning organizers there hey. C'mon. You recall that conversation, don't you?
I criticize Obama and Perry and Clinton, and Hilary, and Bush, and Geithner, and the G## meetings, and many many many other people groups and governments, i criticize all crooked politicians, I have not seen any that were not crooked in years!
The OWS feels the same way, hence all the hundreds of OWS grievances. The OWS is smart, because people are smarter than politicians, (which are made politicians only because they are dumb enough to be easily controlled by the 1%, but smart enough to run for office and win), the OWS is not targetting any people, it is targetting the ISSUES that affect us all. That's why it cannot be stopped or corrupted or even bad-mouthed, it offends no one, it only addresses the issues that are plaguing our nation and the world. The OWS will produce solutions that come from the people, not more corrupt political interests.
Hi Alfi, Thank you for post. Just sent email to senators, opposing bill. Best Regards, Nevada
Thank you so much
You should research all the other bills recently past by Obama and Bush. USA really is not as free as you think. The President have sweeping power that will control the masses at a snap of a finger. This one you don't want to lose. Sending mail by smoke is very labours and weather permitting.
If you're talking about the net neutrality bill, you might want to check this out. I just signed it and sent it off:
http://act.demandprogress.org/sign/hutchison_nn/?source=fb
I, Matt Holck opposes the resolution that would allow private companies to filter internet access by disapproving and negating the FCC's Net Neutrality regulations.
Net Neutrality assures that the Internet will remain an open platform whereby users have full access to all sources of information.
The internet is an electronic press and people have a right to use it.
The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution is part of the Bill of Rights. The amendment prohibits the making of any law respecting an establishment of religion, impeding the free exercise of religion, abridging the freedom of speech, infringing on the freedom of the press, interfering with the right to peaceably assemble or prohibiting the petitioning for a governmental redress of grievances.
I suppose the e-parasite act will also allow the gov to cut off funding to wikileaks and such too, on top of controlling content, it appears that the net neutrality changes are a separate attack on internet freedom from the e-parasite act http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/183611-hutchison-slams-fccs-net-neutrality-rules
I'm not sure if this is the same, maybe it is the same bill, if not, damn, this sucks, there are 2 bills!! http://mashable.com/2011/11/02/obama-petition-piracy/
Damn! Looks like they're on the attack. Any kind of crackdown would not bode well for OWS.
On the attack is right, but we expected no less right? I'm ready, bring it on, I say! :)
Please don't say "bring it on!" That's quoting Georege Bush, and his is not a philosophy to emmulate! I do agree with you, but please, let's not quote "the shrub."
oh damn, I am NEVER saying that again, sorry, didn't realize, in my mind I was picturing the cop in wheelchair from FamilyGuy saying it :)
Yep. Knew it was just a matter of time. What took 'em?
They're just doing what OWS wants... "Regulating"
no smartguy, the OWS wants the business and corporate regulations that were removed by lobbying interests that work for the corporations - things like corporate person-hood, etc - THAT's the kind of regulations the OWS would push for, not attacking Net Neutrality, SMARTGUY.
Exactly what we need, more Goldman Sachts employees "regulating" the market, because that has worked out so well for America.
wrong again, smartguy, the people of this country can easily call for the right regulations to stop corporate power and to stop the banking elite and to get rid of the FED. The Goldman Craps and the JPMoreshit, etc, can go fuck themselves, they shall NEVER be allowed to buy off our gov again. You think we're all stupid, don't you?
Yes I do. and when has the American people ever chosen the regulators? It doesn't happen. They are chosen by corporations through politicians and non-elected bureaucrats. Those who actually pay attention are aware of this.. I suggest Googling "Bernie Maddoff".
"when has (have) the American people ever chosen the regulators?" never before, till Right now:
http://openassembly.org, or http://uponlocal.com or http://wesower.org or http://nycga.net, join in, take your pick of websites and topics, participate with your ideas, vote, then watch our corrupt laws and corrupt politics melt away. It's only just begun, wait till we the people REALLY get going.
Well, conservative websites are popping up everywhere. What'd you expect from a guy that had proved to be corrupt in all areas?
Better hope the GOP blocks it.
now why would the GOP want it blocked? You think the GOP wants the people to have free communications with each other? How about the people using the internet to vote on things that affect them together online, or to organize a protest like the OWS? Do you think ANY political party wants that?
Both parties are corrupt but one has a decidedly greater sense of American values. And it's not the Dems. Look... this is a party that is trying to push a 3500 a year bill down everybody's throats, knowing full well that many have no means of paying it. We can go and on with a dozen other issues but there is no sense of american values here, at all.
maybe I agree with you, maybe others don't, but I want NO CORRUPTION in gov, I will not settle for the less corrupt one, I will not allow GREED to run the world anymore as I watch! GOP is just as bad as Dems, read more open source information online, start with http://democracynow.org, you'll understand.
This is a political question. I'm not supporting Obama because the man is morally corrupt and knows no bounds and that includes your open source.
Yes.
ok, WHY do you think that? If you show me real factual information that I can verify that the GOP wants people to have the ability to start a protest like OWS and to keep it going by using the internet, then I would believe that they are against the e-parasite bill; but, if the GOP's official position on the e-parasite bill is against, it would only be, because that's the GOP's ONLY function, to oppose anything coming from Obama and company, not that it's a bad thing, but the GOP does not have any other objective than to oppose Obama. The GOP does not oppose the e-parasite bill because they believe in freedom of the people to communicate and congregate online freely, they only want to oppose Obama. Later, if they are successful and the e-parasite bill does not get passed, if we get a GOP president, he would surely push for a new e-parasite bill worded differently so as to not attract too much attention to the fact that it's the same bill Obama wanted to pass. This is because both GOP and Democrats are OWNED by the same interests, those interests do not want the people to have a voice in anything of importance. They only want to have good obedient workers/consumers. The GOP are not the "good guys" here, just as Obama isn't some hero, Nobel prize or not. The same people in the GOP have committed crimes against many people on earth and abuses, just as the Democrats and Obama are doing now, no different - so don't even TRY to make the GOP look good here, I know a little too much about it, maybe even more than you do, you really want to open that can of worms?
Actually they do . It's just that opposing Obama is currently the most important.
well, supporting the people to oppose Obama, not supporting another politician to oppose him, then replace him and do the same thing he does now for the 1%, republican or democrat, that's what the OWS and I are about.
I'm with that. I told people in 2007 it didn't matter too much who got elected. The global financial structure were running the country through the Federal Reserve, with our Treasury by the tail. Or up it's tail if you like. I just don't trust OWS for a second.
I said the GOP would block the bill.
yes, and I outlined the reason why, and that the GOP is not blocking it for any good reason, do you agree? Furthermore, I then said that the GOP and the Democrats are both equaly corrupt, in so many words, do you agree with that?
I do.
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I don't either. The Democrats bring in levels of evil unmatched. This last batch was the worst I have ever seen. The scary part is how these socialists were able to mind warp so many people that voted for them.
If you think that the GOP is better, then you are playing the red game. The OWS is the opposite of political games. The OWS is NOT a political game, it is the people, plain and simple, no party. If you don't agree that both the Dems and Reps are equaly criminal and equaly cruel, then you are probably a Tea Partier who believes that everyone should be a Tea Partier. The difference between us then, is that while I am for the people, you are for a select few people, the Tea Party, and the Tea Party is only interested in winning elections. After it wins, the people will no longer matter to them, just as they have done in the past. So join the people, stop calling yourselves the Tea Party, you are the 99%, like us!
As long as you are not a member of any organization on the right, you'll be fine. Thanks man.