Forum Post: Drones: Killing For Sport?
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 15, 2011, 8:29 p.m. EST by rfgoggin
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Each time that I hear of a new drone strike by America in some distant foreign land, by some video game player wielding a computer joystick in Nevada, I get an uncomfortable feeling in the pit of my soul that my country has committed a cowardly act of murder abroad, simply for the hell of it.
Continues : http://thenewworldreporter.com/2011/10/15/drones-killing-for-sport/
Be extremely afraid that the president can order a strike on a us citizen, who has never been convicted of a crime. This is a precedent that one day you will look back on and think, that was the beginning of the end.
Not only were they never convicted of a crime... the 3 Americans killed have never been charged of a crime and there has never been evidence provided for the alleged crimes which are still unknown. Government pretty much said "they're bad." and then killed them. Also they were killed in a non-battle zone which makes bombing the area illegal as well.
The ACLU has filed several lawsuits in regards to the issue.
source -
lawsuit filed against Panetta - http://www.aclu.org/national-security/al-aulaqi-v-panetta
lawsuit filed against Obama - http://www.aclu.org/national-security/al-aulaqi-v-obama
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We going to included for future Olympic games
bombs are lobbed 10 miles away off Navy vessels
Further if they use cruise missiles. Or Drones.
Malvina Reynolds- The Albatross
the targeted killing program has expanded to include “signature strikes” in which the government does not know the identity of individuals, but targets them based on “patterns” of behavior that have never been made public.
http://www.aclu.org/national-security/al-aulaqi-v-panetta
An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), commonly known as a drone, is an aircraft without a human pilot on board. Its flight is either controlled autonomously by computers in the vehicle, or under the remote control of a navigator, or pilot (in military UAVs called a Combat Systems Officer on UCAVs) on the ground or in another vehicle. There are a wide variety of drone shapes, sizes, configurations, and characteristics. Historically, UAVs were simple remotely piloted aircraft, but autonomous control is increasingly being employed.[1] Their largest use is within military applications. UAVs are also used in a small but growing number of civil applications, such as firefighting or nonmilitary security work, such as surveillance of pipelines. UAVs are often preferred for missions that are too "dull, dirty, or dangerous" for manned aircraft.
UAV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unmanned_aerial_vehicle [right click]
The First Drone Games http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ9tVxPkunI&list=PLE724501BDD60E5F7&feature=view_all [right click]
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Isn't it bizarre that nearly 12 years after 9/11 attacks the Congress is promoting this technology nationwide?
If people thought the country has been heading in the wrong direction before, where are we now? Technologies have "evolved" beyond the grasp and reach of ordinary citizens. If weren't for sci-fi we'd be totally unsuspecting.
The Star Wars defense couldn't be achieved. Heaven knows they spent billions of dollars on the doomed project. Flying-killer droids are another matter. Killer drones appear to heading to this country like a swarm of locust and africanized killer bees.
The Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI) was proposed by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983, to use ground and space-based systems to protect the United States from attack by strategic nuclear ballistic missiles. The initiative focused on strategic defense rather than the prior strategic offense doctrine of mutual assured destruction (MAD). The Strategic Defense Initiative Organization (SDIO) was set up in 1984 within the United States Department of Defense to oversee the Strategic Defense Initiative. The ambitious initiative was widely criticized as being unrealistic, even unscientific as well as for threatening to destabilize MAD and re-ignite "an offensive arms race". It was soon derided, largely in the mainstream media, as "Star Wars," after the popular 1977 film by George Lucas. In 1987, the American Physical Society concluded that a global shield such as "Star Wars" was not only impossible with existing technology, but that ten more years of research was needed to learn whether it might ever be feasible.
Star Wars was under the weight of a putative $1 trillion price tag. Some critics warn that SDI actually could cost two and one-half times that. While it is unlikely that SDI will be as cheap as the $40 billion claimed by some SDI backers, the price tag probably would have been in the range of $115 billion to $120 billion spread out over ten years.
Under the administration of President Bill Clinton in 1993, its name was changed to the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization (BMDO) and its emphasis was shifted from national missile defense to theater missile defense; and its scope from global to more regional coverage. It was never truly developed or deployed, though certain aspects of SDI research and technologies paved the way for some anti-ballistic missile systems of today. BMDO was renamed to the Missile Defense Agency in 2002.
Cost of SDI Star Wars http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1987/10/strategic-defense-how-much-will-it-really-cost [right click]
The day before the 9/11 attacks it was announced that the Pentagon "lost" $2.3 trillion in 1 year. Now drones may be coming to a theater near you.
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During the late 1970s and throughout the 1980s, the Israeli Air Force, an aggressive UAV developer, pioneered several important new UAVs, versions of which were integrated into the UAV fleets of many other countries, including the U.S.
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There is an increased probability of a new arms race since drones are very cheap compared to nuclear weapons.
Drones Today and Tomorrow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMh8Cjnzen8&feature=autoplay&list=PL8067BFE4709E6222&playnext=15 [right click]
Can you visualize dogfights between drone aircraft in the skies above your city? How cool would that be?
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In Vermont?
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I do get around, but not as much as I'd like.
Are you saying that the U.S. drone programs were inspired by the 9/11 attacks? That is, a piloted aerial vehicle can do much damage. Of course, the U.S. wanted to keep the pilot alive (the U.S. had not achieved the brainwashing ability of the Japanese during World War II) so it became a remotely piloted drone instead?
Not inspired by 9/11. UAVs were used in WWI. But drones had reached a level of sophistication that they could have been used on 9/11 to mimic other aircraft as conjectured in documentaries - Loose Change.&
Painful Truth Behind 911
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6pEZf8P_RE [right click]
Studying the 9/11 evidence for dozens of hours fascinated me.
People saw a flat earth, but they were wrong. Jet fuel fires can't cut steel beams and blast them in all directions. Take a look.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/photos/gzelev2.html
The two most obvious issues that are being ignored by the OWS protesters are the BRIBES and the Bush order to rig the explosives in all 3 towers.
BRIBES are illegal, money is legal. http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
Your link is a dead end.
So I supposed the footage on television was a goverment cover-up. I had a fellow electrician (my cousin) who was in N.Y.C. and ate breakfast in W.T. tower 1 the morning of. He was across the river and saw the plane fly in to the towers. I would like to be civil, but you are such a f----- idiot.
Who said planes didn't hit 2 towers. 3 towers fell. I'm not going to repeat what I wrote on here http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
The explosions were filmed. Take a look.
So your calling my cousin,who was an eye witness a liar?Get real man.
Eye witnesses are wrong all the time. Get real. The pictures don't lie. Take a look on here. http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
WIN THE PROTEST
Bush, Ashcroft etc are enemy combatants for their orders to rig the explosives that brought down the towers. I can show and explain the evidence they left and was filmed. To continue ignoring 911 is off the charts -- stupid and ignorant.
http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
al qaeda actually points to these and says the americans are too scared to fight them. i wonder how much collateral damage is done with them, it seems less accurate a scalpel than a man with a gun.
And the media tells us they hate our freedom! Freedom to kill!
The media never lies. Not much. The pundits know it all. Be glad they share their wisdom with all the stooges in a trance.
Keep in mind the CIA is not required to report to DC either, so who really knows what the hell is going on.
Kind of gives me the chills. In a good sort of way.
Like screw you!. You can't hide from us we are going to get you.
What an exhilarating feeling to be the person to pull the trigger and know you are destroying some dickhead who's committed his life to a religion that promises virgins in heaven if you are a martyr. Isn't that vile? You kill people in the name of god and he gives you 72 virgin women to deflower! When Mohammed was writing that bullshit back in the day it must have been really difficult to get someone to fight your battles for you.
What do you want for Christmas this year little Jimmy?
OH mommy ya know what I really want? It's called a Predator drone. I want one all tricked out with a few dozen hell fire missiles.
Oh Jimmy now what would you do with a tricked out Predator drone with extra hell fire missiles you silly little guy?
What would I do?, I'd rid the world a few more of those bastards that killed daddy when he was trying to save people dying in the WTC. That's what Id do mommy!
lol this ^^^ comment is a classic example of the power of propaganda
How true, how true.
It's OK to kill people because they disagree with us, and a few fanatics of the same religion have managed to destroy a small part of the homeland.
In all this insanity of war and retaliation no one ever steps forward to ask, as Peter asked Jesus, "...Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times? Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven." (Matt 18:21-22)
I guess that Christian stuff doesn't really apply when someone's having fun killing people.
Don't you want Obama to protect us? Are you ungrateful?
The best thing the USA could do to protect itself is to stop invading sovereign nations at will.
Jesus, I guess I need you people pictures.
We mean well. Justice for all.
WIN THE PROTEST
Bush, Ashcroft etc are enemy combatants for their orders to rig the explosives that brought down the towers. I can show and explain the evidence they left and was filmed. To continue ignoring 911 is off the charts -- stupid and ignorant. read more http://overthecoals.blogspot.com/
Not at the expense of feeling good about my country..
What do you call an I.E.D. which can be controlled by a cell phone? The drones save a hell of alot more american lives. They are deployed only once the human intellegence piece has verified the target. The enemy crys fowl because it's been effective. All is fair in love and war.
What an evil piece of work you are. "They are deployed only once the human intelligence has verified the target" -- that's just a fig leaf lie, which I think you know.
So killing wedding parties, farmers on tractors, innocent bystanders, women and children is all fine with you?
I never dreamed our military would become a soulless woman and child killing machine. Shame, shame.
The government/military has found a way to make the killing of innocent human shields/bystanders acceptable to the large part of the public - "They were Collateral Damage" the terrorist targeted and killed was just unfortunately in their vicinity.
When the victims are shown on truth-based media (RT and some of the "progressive" outlets) the faces should not be blurred out. You want the viewer to witness the humanness of the victims.
Yes - victims must not be dehumanized.
" Bugsplat is the official term used by US authorities when humans are killed by drone missiles." http://dangerousintersection.org/2012/02/14/hundreds-of-civilians-bugsplat-by-u-s-drones/
Morbid humor and dehumanizing humor are defenses of the psyche to protect the individual from harm due to the work they are involved in. This case is killing innocent people. This is how they find ways to live with themselves - make it less real.
Barack "the drone" Obama
The USA is at war with everyone though