Forum Post: Does OWS *support* wars of aggression?!
Posted 12 years ago on Nov. 29, 2011, 11:33 a.m. EST by ScrewyL
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--Because I see a shocking number of jarheads here who SUPPORT going to the middle east, violating centuries of international law, comitting atrocity after atrocity, and viciously murdering defenseless civillians to the tune of 120-something-thousand-at-least using horrific, banned, chemical weapons, all while conveniently characterizing their self defense of THEIR country as "insurgency", and our actions as "defense"!
Have you, the American people, really, REALLY been duped into such grotesque tribalism? Have the minds of Americans fallen to Israeli-style propaganda?
Next you're going to tell me that Gaddafi was a tyrant... open YOUR EYES!
I support OWS but not wars of aggression.
Have the American people been duped into such grotesque tribalism?
When Bush was reelected in 2004 they definately were. That administration knew exactly how to exploit the "fear factor" within the population. I guess it will take a while to recover from 8 years under Bush´s rule.
Why would I waste my time telling you the truth -
Gaddhafi was a tyrant + terrorist
Arafat was a tyrant + terrorist
Assad is a tyrant
Mubarak was a tyrant
etc etc etc
sic semper tyranis
What I am afraid I see in the future in these countries is the same game played in Germany after World War I -
new regime failure and strife and hardship - to blame on the Jews
How many Egyptians have been arrested for attacking the Israeli embassy?
Why do you claim Gaddafi was a "tyrant + terrorist"?
Thanx for asking - His behaviour throughout the 1970s and 80s was outrageous. He tried to get his hands on nuclear weapons from China, Pakistan and India. He tried to obtain chemical weapons and was reputed to have stockpiles of mustard gas. He used his diplomats to help assassinate opponents.
Amnesty International has listed 25 such murders in the 80s.
His assassins were particularly active in Britain, where many Libyan dissidents had sought refuge.
In April 1984 shots were fired from the Libyan embassy in London, killing a policewoman, Yvonne Fletcher, and wounding several anti-Gaddafi protesters. In retaliation, Britain cut off diplomatic relations. Relations were restored in 1999 after the Libyans accepted responsibility and paid Fletcher's family more than pound stg. 100,000 compensation.
Meanwhile Gaddafi was strutting the African stage with grandiose plans, including one for a united states of Africa. He pitched for a merger with Sudan, which prompted president Gaafar Nimeiry to say of the Libyan leader: "He has a split personality, both parts evil."
I think it's overanxiousness, but what do i know. We need to make bigger impressions for more favorable aims thus ends. We can help and protest. We can organize locally, and show up for ows solidarity when possible. We are not bound together by consensus but by a common concern about corruption and the public's wish to finally be rid of it. Peace.
good post, thank you
So it would seem many here do as both Democrats and Republicans now accept it.
Have you ever seen a "protest movement" swallow the government hook-line-and-sinker so easily?!?!
Yes, repeatedly just look at the Tea Party most don't even like Ron Lawl anymore and he started it. Now its just Republican 2.0.
I don't count the Subverted Tea Party as a protest, for precisely that reason....
Trying to bump your thread?
No, replying.
Then I don't count OWS as one because of Adbusters, moveon and Soros.
You're blowing it way out of proportion.
Oh really?
Approximately 150,000 civillians killed, U.S. documents show
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/analysis/numbers/warlogs/
Chemical weapons used on civillians in Fallujah, U.S. lied
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM8zn_UcbNM#t=17m39s
(btw, assault postponed until after election)