Forum Post: Do you really want a revolution?
Posted 12 years ago on April 22, 2012, 12:55 p.m. EST by DonnyMize
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from San Antonio, TX
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First off let me say I agree that economically and politically society is out of balance and just wrong in so many different ways its overwhelming. The alternatives is why the vast majority of the populations do not take action because the alternatives would be worse for billions of people and decades. Depression, Wars, Pandemics and death on scale never seen before. Is that really what you want? What is really sad and scarey though is that these terrible situations are inevitable. You can argue, protest, strike and do what ever you feel you have to but when it comes down to it natural resources are running out and the powerfull elite are doing what they have to to ensure they stay in power though what is coming. So enjoy what life you can, endure what you have to and hope for a peaceful solution.
We have to do all we can to make it a peaceful revolution. We make our voices heard, work to change as much of the system as we can from within. Elect ourselves to office, pass amendments to the Constitution that actually benefit democracy- and that is in and of itself a revolution.
If you wish to survive the coming Zombie attack, stockpile Food, Medicine,Guns ,Ammo,Whiskey and cigars .
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This is why we will have a peaceful revolution.
You really think the 1% is going to give up peacefully? Not likely. Of course we have to be nonviolent now until we have at least 20 to 30 percent of the population not mere "supporters" but ready to go out in the streets and fight the opressor. Then of course we have to win over sections of the military, but even then I don't see fundamental change likely without at least some conflict. The storming of the Winter Palace was a relatively nonviolent affair, but only relatively.
I don’t know how I missed this thread since it covers such an important topic. I posted this on another thread recently, but bears repeating here.
If you are successful in toppling the government and\or financial systems fail it will cause a depression on a magnitude the US has never seen before; much larger than the 1930’s Great Depression.
Small business failures by the thousands, 25%+ unemployment, break down in the rule of law and limited social services. Cold, scared, hungry people are dangerous. They will do whatever it takes to take care of their families. Think New Orleans during Katrina in a lot of cities.
During the 1930’s Great Depression our grandparents were much more self sufficient than people are today. In the 1930’s a family could take care of a themselves with a garden and a hunting rifle. The masses today are not self sufficient. People will gather together by race, beliefs and values for safety and security.
At that point ideologies become less important. Survival will be the name of the game. Democrats, republicans, the Tea Party and even OWS won’t have much clout. The public will support whoever can create jobs and safety for their families.
It will not be a civil war or class warfare, rather a survival war.
Related, depending on which numbers you believe, there are between 190 and 360 million guns in America today. Right this minute two major gun manufactures’ have a backlog of over a million orders each and suspended new orders. One of the top selling weapons right now is the AR-15 assault rifle. People are gearing up for something other than normal self defense.
I think it’s extremely naïve of a lot of OWS’ers to think we will all join hands and sing Kumbaya. It’ll be more like bread lines and having a gun to protect yourself. Don’t be too eager for a revolution.
Wrong, society's problems such as unemployment can be simply fixed without any negative consequences. See this thread: If you are poor, it's because you want to be or because you're stupid.
Really so voting for any sort of policy is going to change the fact that this planet can only support a billion people at most for extended time frame and we have closing in on SEVEN BILLION, wrong. Its a statisical certainy that we will run out of resources at this pace. When we run out of resources the population will have to correct and that means SIX BILLION people gone which is not going to be pretty. Its not about what any policy can do, its simple math and numbers are the only truth in life.
Then we should start using less resources as soon as possible. Working more and consuming more is not the answer; working less is and described in the above linked thread.
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Donny, you are far too practical for these nut jobs. Great post!
the backer of ows , does indeed want a violent revolution .