Forum Post: do you know how much republicans hate you?
Posted 13 years ago on Dec. 22, 2011, 9:29 p.m. EST by zati321
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they spend their whole lives hating you. it's all they think about. if you knew how much they hated you, you wouldnt be so confused who to vote for.
I am not confused at all.
I make it a principle goal -
to be hated by repelicans
where ever they are
the repelican party is DONE
Congress is screwing all of us regardless of political affiliation. They love it when we all go back and fourth against each other. John Bohenner is a good example of how they are all sticking us.
In watching the budget debate it seems clear the worst of them are on the . . .um wrong side of the aisle.
Get rid of them and the rest of the corruption should reveal itself fairly quickly.
And then that can go to.
Thank you, Zen dog, for this piece of rare, flawless, logic. Those who would separate us from the Democratic Party, encourage us not to vote, and are also unwilling to take concerted action such as debt repudiation, or other strong, effective means, of civil disobiedance are either simply dreamers or do not want this movement to succeed.
they are so transparent - all you have to do is pay a little bit of attention.
I hate the bastards.
They hate you this much opens arms as wide as possible
They don't give a crap about you. They are more concerned with making a living and supporting their families. There concern with you centers of the belief that you are working to destroy the economic and governmental system that has afforded the highest standard of living to the most people the world has ever known.
Can't you see the the economy is already in the process of being destroyed? And its not by protestors, but by Wall Street.
It has been destroyed by progressive liberal politicians that hand out freebies in exchange for votes.
You don't think that giving billions of dollars to banks has anything to do with it?
Progressive liberals have given the money to banks.
The banks created their own debts though. Obama's main financial supporters were Wall Street institutions.
You got that right and they are Obummers big time supporters. That is why he is not going after them
That's right, if anything, he tries to make it look like he is going after them.
that's horseshit. he received millions in five and ten dollar donations from all across the country.
He must have had some Wall Street supporters, according to the following article:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/obama-wall-street-donors-shift-support-romney-181657957.html
It was probably the Wall Street support that bought him the media that got him the donations from individuals.
yeah-ya.
wall street tries to buy everybody.
but note - when it comes to Congress they know which side of the bread gets the butter:
eat that.
I'm glad to hear it. I'm a democrat, so if that's true, I think it's great. I'm just not the Obama kind of democrat. I'm more of an FDR or JFK kind of democrat. Unfortunately, Obama seems to have nothing in common with those individuals.
how can you say that? obama's jobs bill and stimulus is SO SIMILAR to The New Deal(except ona smaller scale.) modern democrats idolize fdr, jfk and truman, trust me. and i concur that you should go with the anglicization(sp?) of your name. not many people can pull off "hymie," really rock it and make it work.
They are being paid by the same people. That should result in some commonality among them.
do you think the moon landing was faked too? it was all a stage set in hollywood, like some people think? and dinosaurs helped space aliens build stonehenge and the pyramids too right? and noah fit 3 billion species of animals on an ark, god doesnt want us to cure cancer with stem cells, and global warming is a big hoax....
I would like to see him actually do that, but I think Obama is more likely to provoke a war with Iran that would draw Russia and/or China into it.
I think we should develop an industrial base that can trade with China for its cheap consumer goods, rather than just keep giving them debt. That should be something high tech that they are not capable of yet, but more like machine tools to improve their factories, but also things like road graders to build roads to their remote villages. We could get rich selling to the Chinese.
We would need such high tech infrastructure goods to take our own economy to the next level too, and get us out of our economic crisis.
No, I don't think that, I'm a big fan of Kennedy's space program actually, think its sad that Obama is taking NASA apart.
I do believe in the "Illuminati" though, a cult of rich people who control much of the world in secret, if that impresses you. I used to be a member of a secret society myself, so I know that they exist.
but why would your "illuminati" want to start a world war? sure, we'd be able to build more weapons but, unlike world war 2, it would be terrible for the economy and might even lead to a nuclear conflict. then your secret society wouldnt have a civilization to secretly control from the shadows...besides, democrats always get criticized for CUTTING the military, remember? the only time ive heard people talk about attacking iran is in the republican debates...if obama was going to attack iran, i think he would have done so during the uprising, when they were at their weakest. but it was a republican, eisenhower, who overthrew iran's first democratically elected leader, mosodec, to install our puppet the shah, so western oil companies could plunder iran's oil while iranians starved in the streets--which led eventually to their revolution in 1979 which carter wound up getting blamed for.
i agree. so does obama. on his recent trip to the pacific rim, i heard him say almost exactly that, in fact.
nope not too impressed by that, hymie....so do you agree with bush's proposal ( which fortunately he dropped after 9/11) that we should put ONE TRILLION DOLLARS (of debt from china) into the aerospace/defense contractor corporations(who give virtually only to republican candidates and only a little to d's as a smokescreen to appear even-handed) pockets for a manned mission to mars? however, i would also like to note that the great majority of scientists are liberals, as the republicans, who hate education, always oppose funding for essential medical research and research for real-world problems like alternative energy at our world best "faggot liberal" universiities--exactly the type of research in obama's stimulus bill r's opposed.
just trying to make it look like they oppose his reforms when really they are all in on it too, keeping it a big secret?
-Yes, something like that.
that's a conspiracy that would involve 1000's of people. you're saying that there isnt ONE single politician or staffer who has come to washington for this long who's honest enough to "blow the whistle" on something like that? that's whacky
If Obama's stimulus is so similar, why aren't we any better off now. FDR implemented Glass Steagall in his first couple weeks in office. I can't see what Obama has accomplished.
Guess I'll just have to make do with Hymie, it kind of sticks on me.
a lot of experts think the stimulus saved us from another great depression, although that's admittedly hard to prove. however, maybe if hoover had done a stimulus instead of nothing(actually worse than nothing, his conservative poliicies actually hurt import/exports) then we could have mitigated things from the outset. as it was, the new deal wasnt a panacea: the best part was really that it saved people's lives who were literally starving and implemented a coordinated national effort to end the "dustbowl" and created a national infrastructure that was essential in america becoming world leader, exactly what obama's policies have sought to update. similar to glass steagall,obama did the wall street reform bill to combat all this new type of speculation which was able to circumvent previous legislation like that. this wall st reform bill was opposed by r's.
Unfortunately, I think Obama is working for our enemy, that is, Wall Street. His reform bill is just there to appear that he is doing something, without doing anything.
then why are all the r's against him? are they all part of the conspiracy too, just trying to make it look like they oppose his reforms when really they are all in on it too, keeping it a big secret?
I don't believe ya.
the threads are teeming with trolls - and you sound like just one more.
it starts with your name.
hymie
what the fuck is that? just can't resist the derogatory slur the moment you walk in can ya
piss off
I'm not too concerned about whether you believe me or not.
My real name is Jim or James, Hymie is the Spanish translation, though its more usually spelled as Jaime. I had lived in Argentina for the past year, and frequently went by the name of Jaime or Hymie.
Little bit different than what you were imagining, eh? Sometimes life is like that.
I'm not at all sure if that is an interesting story
or just clever
Thank you, either way.
the poor tend NOT to vote(and of course dont donate money,) so democrats LOSE votes by taking money from people who DO vote and trying to help those who dont so our society is healthier in the long run.
You are wrong. Dems bus in poor voters. Dems court the poor, the criminal, the illegal, the usefull idiot, and people to vote more than once and then move to protect the illegal votes.
it's been true in probably every country on earth for a loooong time: the poor tend not to vote. but if you're alleging the democrats are doing something illegal, or "courting the criminal vote" lofl. or "protecting illegal aliens voting..." i mean, what kind of a moron are you? illegal aliens cant register to vote. show me one shred of proof of illegal aliens voting, especially in any kind of large numbers...
when you dont have to show any photo ID, there is fraud. It's well known that even the DEAD can vote in chicago. And they all vote democrat.
you're an utter moron. show me one shred of proof of this "well known" fact of yours. an illegal alien isnt going to risk getting deported just to try to illlegally vote, moron. this is the type of nonsense you use for all the new racist voter suppression laws you're trying to pass now, when there has been NO cases of widespread attempts at voter fraud for decades.
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2008/10/dead-voters-still-registered-in-harris-county/
But it doesn't happen, right?
the voting is fine now. we dont need any new laws making it harder to vote. we want MORE peoople to vote, not less, for whatever reason.
No we don't. Have you ever watched those man on the street interviews? Sorry, if you don't know who the VP is now, then you are not educated enough to vote. And how would requiring ID make it harder to vote? Who doesn't have an ID if they are legal?
Cash a check..need ID Drive...need ID Participate in any .gov program...need ID Getting a job...need ID Go on a flight..need ID Donate blood..need ID Sell to a pawn shop...need ID Get a prescription filled...need ID
Electing the leader of the free world....NO ID REQUIRED.
That is a problem.
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http://www.wral.com/news/local/politics/story/9984810/
Raleigh, N.C. — Three people were charged Thursday with voter fraud after authorities determined that they voted twice in Wake County in the 2008 election, and a fourth was charged with voting twice last year, officials said.
wow, in all your googling, you managed to find FOUR people, count em FOUR, who were "charged with"(were these 4 even convicted?) of trying to vote twice!! omfg!! its a national epidemic!! you uncovered the great liberal conspiracy!!!
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/286557/yes-virginia-there-really-voter-fraud-hans-von-spakovsky
So, why are you against showing ID to vote?
illegals vote, the dead vote. Among the names on the petition to recall walker in wisconsin,.......are the name mickey mouse and adolph hitler. do you think those are the names of acutual residents of wisconsin? A photo I.D. is not voter suppression , it's voter verification.
again, i ask you for proof. any link on that at all? i have provided links for all my claims whenever challenged.
And I don't really give a shit about them. I don't begrudge them their families if you see that as a vice.
you'd be surprised...do you know how many times i see/hear "the OWS are a bunch of spoiled brat hippy addicts on welfare" etc... and "destroy the governmental system"? it's those republicans who claim to want smaller govt, so their wall st corporations(who basically all give 5 times as much $$$ to r's as to d's literally) can continue to trample the 99 percent at will.
Dems get more from wall street...
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-04-21/democratic-party-helped-by-wall-street-outraising-republicans.html
the fact is, since the REPUBLICAN LEANING supreme court did the citizen's united decision 3 years ago, allowing unlimited ANONYMOUS donations, we have NO IDEA who gives what anymore, get it? that's what "anonymous" means. that means we have to look at things like: WHY DID THE REPUBLICANS ALL OPPOSE OBAMA'S WALL STREET REFORM BILL? hmmm
Your facts are really fucked up. Corporate donors give more to democrats than Repubs. You are a flat out phony ass liar. 92% of corporate donations over 1 million dollars goes to democrats. 62% of donations less than 200 dollars go to republican candidates. As you girlfriend Rosie O'Donnell once said: google it.
well, i gave you a link for the cbo report you requested, now maybe you can provide a link for the above information which is the exact opposite of the truth. i mean, it really is amazing the lengths you republicans go to lie. absolutely shameless, you'll say literally anything.,http://www.docstoc.com/docs/25535005/Corporate-donations-to-political-parties...so there's one link just from a "light googling" that contradicts what you said. but then, so does common sense: all the democrats in congress and obama OPPOSED the citizens united ruling 5 to 4 by the right-leaning justices on the roberts court, a stunning decision which, as you must know, now makes america the only country in the developed world to allow UNLIMITED ANONYMOUS corporate donations. so why would d's be against this decision and r's support it? maybe democrats are masochists who secretly want to lose?? btfw: the average bush/r tax cut for someone making $1 million/year = $150,000 while the average bush/r cut for someone making the median middle class income, $50,000 = TWENTY FIVE DOLLARS, enough to buy a couple of movie tickets: live it up....and those wealthy one percenters have, on average, multiplied their wealth 5 TIMES OVER in the past decade. have YOU mulitplied your "net worth" five times over since 2001?
does mcdonalds hate cows?
does perdue hate chickens?
does butterball hate turkeys?
does the Soylent Corporation hate Soylent Green?
The more they hate us the more it probably means we're right.
We don't hate you. We just don't give a fu*k about you. You waste your time hating a group of people, we have better things to do. And we like it like that :-P
"We just don't give a fu*k about you"
...and that's why you're here responding to my post.
This is why we are here this is why you are needed.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/
Share, circulate, educate, inspire.
cain69newtthenboycottstatueofliberty... send me an email that says "tax the rich more" and ill send you 1 image and 1 mp3, no strings attached: jhnrbnsn365@gmail.com
screw em all politics has been reduced to tv commercials.
not near as much as they're gonna
Here is a bi-partisan compilation of 184 members of the U.S. Congress, many of whom are running for re-election, all of whom caused the financial collapse of America by their 1999 vote to repeal Glass-Steagall.
The Congress that Crashed America http://home.ptd.net/~aahpat/aandc/congcrash.html
If any of these people represent you and are running to re-election I would strongly encourage you to find an alternative and run that person NOW! Please!
70 percent of americans agree with me that it was republican laissez faire non-regulatory policies that caused the collapse, a collapse which was almost identical to hoover's crash in 1929. see, what happened was, when the stock derivatives market was created in 2001, republicans (who controlled govt at the time, includnig fannie and freddie) allowed this new form of stock speculation to go unchecked for years, which wound up creating a huge bubble in the housing market, which finally burst in 2008, propelling obama(a black with a muslim name), who had been trailing in the polls, to actually beat mccain.and become president. this is an argument you have already lost. you should pick a new one: glass steagal was a tiny part of it: you had republicans running fannie and freddie all those years, with the help of people like newt gingrich urging congress not to regulate them, in spite of pleas from democrats who were called "socialists" for wanting such regulations.
It was bi-partisan.
Bill Clinton and a majority of the Democrats in Congress in the 1990's fully supported the repeal of Glass-Steagall.
Go to the link I posted. On it is a link to the actual roll call vote to repeal Glass-Steagall.
House:
Republicans 207 Democrats 155
Senate:
YEAs 90, NAYs 8
And Bill Clinton, ever the whore of Wall Street, signed it into law.
yeah, republicans supported it too. R's wanted to help banks give low interest home loans to the poor too: just ask newt. of course, their motive was to help the banks make more billions, while d's motive was to help lower income people buy their own homes. you skipped that part.
No. I didn't skip it.
I don't accept your tortured partisan parsing.
Having been into politics since about 1964 I know better than to fall for that childish propaganda that one side will do the same crappy thing as the other side but have better motives for doing the crappy thing. Fact is both parties supported the same crappy thing and you are willing to give half the creeps a pass because you have some partisan delusion that Democrats are any better than or different from the Republicans.
look at the voting in congress: d's and r's vote on opposite sides of almost every single bill, every single issue. how can you possibly say they are the same?? btfw, in 1964, democrats ended segregation, KNOWING that those racist southern democrat "dixiecrats" would join the R party and that the south would never vote for a democrat for president again--and they havent. i can give you lots more examples, as with obama's healthcare bill, where d's did the politically unpopular thing costing them votes and money, even though it was the right thing to do morally. how many instances can you name when republicans or whatever 3rd party protest candidate you support has done that?
In 1965 both parties voted for the Voting Rights Act.
In 1971 both parties strongly supported the Dixie-crats and Richard Nixon as they created the War on Drugs for the purpose of re-invigorating Jim Crow by neutralizing and subverting the electoral empowerment of minorities and young Americans, who were also franchised, by the 1971 26st Amendment.
Democrats ever since have escalated the Drug War every time they have had the power to do so. Obama has even matched Bill Clinton's WORLD RECORD prison population (of mostly minority youth) and has more blood on his hands in Mexico that all Drug Warrior presidents before him COMBINED. This has had the effect of neutralizing the urban pluralistic vote across the nation allowing white Democratic candidates to campaign more actively to conservative white suburban and rural constituencies. And allowed conservative white Democrats to collude with Republicans at the state level to create "safe" districts, FOR THEM!
All political parties are social diseases infesting the body politic of America.
yes, that was when the change began: the 60's was the time of the great migration of the southern dixiecrats to the R party AND EVERYONE KNOWS IT. this is history 101, and to say otherwise is either totally dishonest or ignorant. why DO YOU think the south votes exclusively republican since then? coincidence? and i dont think democrats really supported richard nixon, no. you may remember many d's were out there protesting nixon's policies.... you must be joking: obama has put no new drug laws in place. he isnt responsible for courts who convict drug users/dealers. give me ONE EXAMPLE of something obama has done on that. the supposed "drug war" started in earnest under reagan with "just say no." meanwhile, reagan was supporting every central american drug lord who promised to "kill commies," leading to the detereoration of our inner cities in the 80's, from bad to utter crack war-zones....and its's the republicans doing the gerrymandering(but d's have done that in the past, you're right.) however, to say that d's favor whites is absurd: d's have enjoyed 95 percent of the vote from almost every minority group(blacks, gays, hispanics 70 percent, jews 80 percent, women 60 percent...) because of the committment that d's made to minorities in the 60's, and have kept...."all parties are bad"? so you're not voting at all? ok, be irrelevant.
LOL. Stay on the democrat plantation. They'll give you the leftover scraps.
Like attracts like.
Amen.
I am not confused on who to vote for. I am confused by the fact that people think, like you, Republicans hate us. Republicans out there are as sick of our government and how it works as anyone else. I am not a Democrat, I am an Independent. I know people that have gone to Independent because they are informed and realize that both parties work for the 1%. As far as voting, I know it does not matter who is president, it matters that we should vote out all those that come before. We need to keep moving in the right direction, and inform people that there are other way to challenge those in authority, that this is a world wide movement, that is not going to stop. We will make a change, and have every voice heard, and OWSNY has given us a voice, and we have answered the call. All it takes is both Reps and Dems and Libertarians, etc. to listen to one another, hear every voice, get a concensus, by conflict resolution, and make life better for those who live on this earth. Hate does not enter into our coversations, it is something we wish to obliterate. There is no room in this movement for that word. Instead how about hope, a better world, people taking care of each other, compassion, understanding, love of fellow man.
20 years ago, even 10 years ago, i would have agreed with you that some form of "consensus" or at least compromise between the left and the right was possible. but not now. im sorry to say, your plea for unity today seems naive and outdated. look at the voting in congress: the R's vote on one side and D's the other on ALMOST EVERY SINGLE BILL, every single issue. that's how bad it's gotten. besides, you cant be both pro-choice AND "pro-life" right?
and it's clear that the D's need control of the congress AND white house or nothing can get done, just gridlock. as far as hate speech, let me leave you with one cheery thought this xmas eve: on your travels around the internet or anywhere else, any time you hear/see the word "nigger" or "faggot" used in anger, it's ALWAYS from a right winger. not every R is a racist/bigot, but since the 60's(when D's knowingly gave up the southern vote to do the right thing and end segregation) the R's have TOLERATED those racists (and the evangelical personal freedom-stealers) in their party because they know they need those votes to win. and your line about "taking caring of your fellow man...compassion": since the 60's, D's have created and kept every program that helps the poor in spite of R cuts and cries of "socialism" and in spite of the fact that the poor don't donate money and tend not to even vote. THAT'S the recent history of the D party, a far cry from half of these OWS people who want to overthrow the govt or shut down our economy with the help of groups like "Anonymous" with their computer virusses and support of document leakers etc.
I do not have any illusions that those who are in congress now will get along, I am talking about a future, with the 99% meeting together, and listening to one another. I am under no illusion it could happen to our present congress. I have tried that for 30 years or more and that will never happen until they are gone. To do that is something we are debating among all occupies and we will find a solution. We might even start our own government, with our own monetary system. Open the mind, and soar for the skies. We will win, we will change things, that is a given. We will make a better life for years to come. But democracy needs a revolution once in a while, and this one is it.
nope, what you are suggesting is, in my opinion, a silly fantasy which will cause the OWS to be completely irrelevant. you're NOT going to overthrow the govt and set up your own. you're NOT going to have your own monetary system for the 99 percent. it's not going to happen. you should be out there working for obama for 2012: that's the way you can have an impact. go to message boards, blogs,articles on local (best non-political) swing state places on the web, collect support for a "tax the rich more" bill. then, once the OWS has collected 1 million "signatures," present that bill to our govt, show them it has support from all parts of america from all demographic groups, then give the bill to the wall st firms and say "we bailed you out after you caused the crash and recession--now you give $500 billion dollars of your huge profits to help mitigate this recession or these 1 million people will never give you a break and never again vote for candidates who support corporate welfare and tax cuts for millionaires only."
I am not speaking for Occupy, even though I am an occupier. I am saying that nothing is impossible, and I am keeping an open mind to anything that would work. Many intelligent people are in this movement, and maybe we are not sure where it is going, because it is open to all peoples' ideas. That is what is so wonderful about the movement, it is all people, all over the world, who are rebelling against their form of government, because it does not work for the majority, the 99%. It hasn't worked for us for a long time, and maybe it was because of apathy. But apathy is becomming a thing of the past, and people are waking up. Just today 120 thousdand Russians rose up. Even Mexican people are rising against the cartels. What courage, all over the world. This movement will succeed, do not think otherwise.
You can present a petitiion with 300 million signatures and it wouldn't make any difference. Didn't you see the last bill that passed? All Reps wanted to decreased funding from Defense, but tacked on pork, even Tea Party. they know we want defecit cut, jobs created, (Not by trickle down), but will it happen. It doesn't work, the present system, they don't listen. They bail out banks, but foreclose on homes. They keep subsidies even though the majority of people don't want them. They keep them because they receive them. This system, as MCcain just said on the floor, is broken. It is broken, it does not work for the people, period. That is not going to change unless we change it. Period.
so it's the govt who forecloses on homes and the republicans who want to cut defense spending? hmmmm as soon as the democrats took congress back in 2007, all of bush and the r's huge corporate welfare/subsidiies ended. d's have always voted against such measures(except for the farm subsidies, which i agree need to be looked at, although farmers do need a safety net in case of a year of drought--and the fact those subsidies go to red states d's never have even a chance of winning.) and look at the "citizens united" decision which allowed r's to outspend d's EIGHT TO ONE in the contested races in 2010, thanks to the new unlimited anonymous corporate donations the right-leaning roberts court has allowed into our system, in a stunning ruling overturning 100 years of law and making us unique in this regard in the developed world. d's all have opposed this ruling which essentially allows corporations to now buy elections, while every r ive seen who is willing to open their mouth to give an opinion on the ruling SUPPORTS IT. what does that tell you? as far as bailouts, the one bailout obama did was of the auto industry, which r's opposed, but now, the auto industry has paid back the money, is healthy and is the biggest jobs producer in american, instead of those million auto workers and their families(plus all the businesses in those communities) now being on welfare.... the govt isnt perfect but it's the public's only defense against corporations. at least the govt has elections and some oversight by the media and opposition party. and please tell me: what is the tea party's (or your) plan to create jobs? what's your brilliant idea? obama's jobs bill sounded like a good idea to me: do you want to drive on crumbling roads, bridges and tunnels? do you want your kids to go to schools that are falling apart? so far, all ive heard from you is criticism and saying i should "open my mind." well, open your mind and tell me your plans and why the politicians in charge of your system wouldnt soon get corrupted by the same things our current politicians often do...
Want to really do something constructive and start an Occupy Party. The only way to make a real change, is from the inside. Their are enough affluent people to make a real change. With the media atention that occupy is getting this is the perfect time, before it all fades off into the history books. Start something now that will carry our message into the future for all to see and it will never die.
a third party in america can never get elected. the only effect it might have is what the egotist nader did in 2000 with the green party: split the liberal vote and cost gore the 2 percent he needed to beat bush, resulting in the iraq war, a crashed economy, a trashed environment, and 2 evangelical corporatists on the supreme court for the next 30 years...
A lot of republicans even hate Ron Paul. Well at least the GOP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UNC1vtP0a0
The GOP is not an arm of the Republican Party. Do you realize your post doesn't make sense?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Old_Party
You must be young or not a US citizen.
Lulz that is the exact same link, guy. You're either too misinformed or ignorant.
Let me pull a quote that is in my link and yours because it auto directs to the same page that I posted originally.
"The Republican Party is one of the two major contemporary political parties in the United States, along with the Democratic Party. Founded by anti-slavery expansion activists in 1854, it is often called the GOP (Grand Old Party). The party's platform generally reflects American conservatism in the U.S. political spectrum and is considered center-right, in contrast to the center-left Democratic Party.[1][2][3]"
I honestly find your reply laughable. Good day sir.
You said some Republicans hate Ron Paul. At least the GOP does.
As if the GOP is part of the Republican party, not another term for it. I am aware the link redirects to your link. That's the point. And a jolly good day to you too sir.
Yes, i essentially that said some hate Ron Paul... wait all of them do. It's called a pun.
Uh huh. Don't backpedal. You learned something new from our exchange.
:)
whatever you need to tell yourself.
just state your case.
They call me names a lot, and then get mad, when I respond in kind.
It's OK to think like a Republican. You just shouldn't be allowed to hold office if you do.
True. They need to be a member of the Tea Party
LoL!
I like that!
Yeah, you can tell the real HitGirl just by her comments!
Yes you can.
I've learned that you can also tell by copying her name into a text editor, then change the font to a serif type font - the last letter in the real HitGirl's is a lower case L, where as the poser uses an upper case i - in sans serif they look the same.
Hey, that's clever. Good idea, Zen, thanks.
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not as much as they're gonna
No confusion here. No way a Republican should ever be elected to any office...ever. So unbelievably sad when they are. Shame...haters...shame!
Not as much as they're gonna
zdog, i often wonder (when i have nothing the fuq better else to do lofl) what these right wingers think when they listen to their favorite album or watch their favorite movie, painting or use whatever gadget a scientist created for them, that 99 percent of all artists and scientists are liberals, including their favorites, and fin dtheir world view as disgusting as you and i do....of course, it's a statistical fact that the more educatred someone is, the more likely they are to be liberal/ "progessive"...
probably relishing that one lie they sold to the widest audience, or relishing the memory of the last sod they really fucked over.
what else would they be doing?
celebrating their version of success?
not near as much as they're gonna
So dipshit zati321, why do you spend your time making such assinine generalizations? Is it to incite division, and deepen hatred between opposing ideologies? Or would it be to bring opposing ideologies together and find common ground? Not. You have a love affair with hatred. You love to hate those who do not agree with your ideology. Go stand in the corner with your nose pressed against the wall until you can change your shameful attitude.
really? why are YOU, an admitted right winger, on this website? is it to "unite people" and "bring us all together"? have you really been trying to "find common ground"? my first exposure to your posts was reading your posts on this thread where you picked a fight with anyone you could, using hate speech about gays, women, and basically calling all democrats "marxists" and "commies." i, on the other hand, would like to unite the OWS behind what i consider to be their basic left-wing principles to vote for and work for d's and obama in 2012, as i feel their agenda is basically the same as the OWS. what a hypocrite i just proved you to be.
I am part of the 99% as you know. This includes almost all people of many and varied ideology. You HATE rich people and have made that very clear. I on the other hand HATE government. I see government and its never ending theft from it's people, it's ever expanding and consuming as the biggest threat to our very existence. It is true I have used what some would see as hate speech. I apologize publicly for my sins right now. I do not use the term socialist or Marxist or commie lightly. If someone is a real democrat, fine. Obama and his ilk and followers are not democrats, IMO. Any president that says he will find a way to bypass congress to get his agenda through, is not a lover of freedom, but rather a control freak, and a freedom thief. I know you probably hate the freedom loving libertarians more than a real true blue conservative. But if I were to ascribe an ideology to myself, it would be libertarian, although i admit, not in the purest sense, as i do believe abortion is the lowest form of murder one can participate in. I want he government to leave me alone. I want them to stop taking bribes. I want Pac's abolished. I want them to get out of the way. As long as a person is not hurting another, or screwing up our environment, get the fuck away from me.
well, the right wing leaning scotus are the ones, in a 5 to 4 decision, who empowered the PAC's with the ciitzens's united decision.
Listen hear shit brain. Don't presume that you know a Fu ing thing about what I believe. Abortion= murder. Get it? I support 100% legalization of every drug man has ever concocted. If someone likes the needle and a spoon, fine, send it in that vein all day long? LSD, fine. Weed, fine. I mean all of it. Burn flag? Wtf, if someone wants to demonstrate they hate our government great! If homosexuals want to join in union and pretend it is "marriage" great. I don't care. It effects no one. And do your damn homework on the markets. They haven't been doing shit. Unless you bought a bunch in a recent low swing, you must not look at your statements very closely. The markets have been relatively flat since 2000, and are down roughly 1500 points since the 2008 meltdown.
well, 70 percent of americans and the world dont agree with your opinion that "aborton is murder," sorry. besides, if a girl is raped by her father, would you force her to carry that child?? that's sick. equally sick would be MAKING A WOMAN PROVE she was raped just to get an abortion: its usually impossible to prove anyway. and once those millions more unwanted babies were born if abortionwere illegal, its y ou right wingers who wouldnt want to RAISE TAXES to pay for expanding medicaid etc to pay for them--in fact, you dont want to even pay for healthcare of children, elderly and disabled people we already have now! 2. if you support legalizing drugs, you arent going to find many republicans at pro-pot rallies lofl. and your support of gay marriage and flag burning should cause you to pull teh lever for d's, if those personal freedoms really are important to you(gotcha.) 4. right: when bush left the white house the stock market was under 7000, and going down. since then, its up over 5000 points. see, obama took office in early 2009, get it? just give up. i mean, i notice all you and your rw pals EVER do is bash democrats. that's your ONLY interest in politics: bashing the left. you never have anything nice to say about your own candidates(romney, bush, mccain...) or talk about your own solutions for creating jobs and fixing healthcare etc. in other words, the only reason you care about politics and come in here is your HATE. ...lastly, you so-called "libertarians" say you "hate government" period. does that mean that the govt should stop testing food and drugs for safety? just let whatever diseased fruit etc into america like bush did by cutting the FDA, which wound up costing us billions with insect problems etc. we're lucky there wasnt a food and mouth / madcow disease epidemic like other countries have had...and should we just wait 20 years for a cancer epidemic to find out a drug causes cancer, then try to sue that drug company assuming they're still in business or the person is even alive and can prove the cancer came from that drug? what about dumping toxic waste? should we let these polluters just police themselves? where is regulating any of that(and myriad other thingsi could mention) ANYWHERE to be found in the constitution you claim to worship and claim democrats trash?
Big shit. Ripping a human being out of the womb while still alive is not murder? Live in your delusion. I don't know how anyone could not see that as anything less than hitlerish hell. But whatever, if you don't see it as a human being, that's your problem. I notice all you and your left wing pals do is bash any one that differs from your ideology. Romney, Bush, And McCain did not or would not EVER get a vote from me. As far as "fixing" healthcare goes, the ramming of a bill that NOT ONE FUCKING person read is the biggest sham ever perpetrated on the American public. No one and I mean absafrickinglutely no one, disagreed that reform wasn't needed. But to ram this up our asses is a fucking crime that all who voted for it should be put out of office, and then put in 6x12 cell, with no food or water for the rest of time. The only reason you asked me a question the other day was because you knew we would disagree and you just want to HATE. What you have failed to recognize, dipshit, is we do agree on quite a number of issues. I am actually starting to like you.
no, i dont see a tiny group of cells smaller than a pinhead as a human being, anymore than the billions of sperm who die in nutsacks around the world every day are "human beings" either. REALLY? so you didnt hope bush beat gore and kerry? you didnt hope mccain beat obama or that romeny will? let me guess: you voted for some 3rd party right wing protest candidate who you knew had no chance of winning just so you could say you are "independent." am i warm? 2. so you think its a bad law that insurance companies cant drop you now if you get sick? id say most people thinks that a pretty good law. 3. i like you too.
Does this mean we can kiss?
no it sure doesnt
Just checking. We would probably just get in an argument right after anyways.
SO MANY rw'ers, after bashing gays initially, make gay passes, assuming im gay just because i support gay rights. so many (larry craig, foley, haggard et al) make their careers bashing gays, but then it turn to be the ones picking up sex in public rest rooms or worse, keeping it a secret their whole lives, even from their families...then it finally comes out on the "anonymous" internet--but after so long, it all usually comes out so ugly and messed up...
What a douche. You are one ignorant fucked up in the head ass. You sure live a life full of presumption and fantasy. You can extrapolate a lot from a few sentences on a forum. Now fuck off loser.
awwww princess. here ya go: xoxoxoxoxoxooxooxxoxoo you're so right: one CAN extrapolate a lot.
i really did put on about 5 pounds over xmas, there were these popcorn caramel treats... feels disgusting: but im still quite thin. but yes, i saw what you said: why dont you make me, farm boy?
I said fuck off loser asshole. You suck shit Popsicles, dig? Ram one up your fat ass while your at it too.
Does a republican hate a democrat any less than a democrat hates a republican? Probably less than dems hate Repubs, IMO.
well they haven't seriously tried to kill me yet, so obviously the answer is . . ..
we're gonna bust the wheels of their fukin wagon
then they can walk
they can walk through dry places
and find no rest
nor water
nor any good thing
but dust and thorn
where their tongue cleaves to the roof of their mouth
and they will know what it means
to have a tongue
zdog, in my travels on the internet, you wouldnt believe all the actual death threats ive received from right wingers--and you know me: i never get too personal or obscene, etc...maybe i need to work on my people skills....but actually, i save these threats as trophies(and even publish some of them.) i mean, can you imagine being dumb enough to actually think it's legal to threaten someone's life, and in writing? lofl--its a jungle out there/in here, man
it is indeed a jungle
; )
How to join Republican Party? These may come as a very stupid questions, but I need to ask you anyway. First, my goal is to help support Ron Paul's campaign in any means I can. With that said, I believe there's only so much we can do from outside of the republican party, which I am currently not a member of.
So here are my questions:
Do I join my state's GOP, or the national GOP or both? Does joining one automatically enroll me in the other?
Once I've become a member, what can I do to help the RP campaign? How does one become a primary delegate?
ron paul's economic and "jobs" plan is simply more bush trickle down economics designed to benefit the richest 1 percent only. i dare you to say otherwise
Do you know how many people hate OWS right now? Alot! You all started out with a clear message but got lost with all of you conflicting your ideas with one another.
I'm not confused at all. Bush Sr. came out yesterday in support of Romney, meaning Romney lost votes... what does that tell you?
That tells me Romney is just another puppet...but everyone probably already knows that.
I'm not sure what to think. But one of the things I have been thinking is that very few would vote for another Bush Republican right now; so why would Bush Sr open his mouth to label Romney? I think we're being manipulated.
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Just as predicted. Obama begins his fourth year of failure, and the left is terrified of the imminent loss awaiting them in 2012. With their beloved liberal media beginning its assault on all GOP candidates, the liberals will pronounce the GOP dead many times in the next year. The desperation mounts as the press targets the useful idiots with blatant bias, half truths and lies about anything to the right of them.
Those on this thread who have come to join the assault are either pushing the bias, or the useful idiots who bought it. It will definitely get nasty in the next 12 months as liberals and leftists alike unleash their hatred for the right at full capacity. We will hear tales of racism, starving poor people, war mongering, anti Christian tirades and Robin Hood-like class warfare.
I really wish more open minded moderates would learn about liberal bias and how the left administers it upon the unsuspecting public. The theory is: repeat the lie enough times, eventually people begin to believe it.
http://tppatriots.net/2011/12/18/fema-camps-are-now-ready/
"liberals and leftists alike"? lofl. that's almost as good as "the gop arent part of the republican party." you righties sure know your stuff! soooo it's "The Liberal Media" (owned by freemason jews, right?) that imposes it's "bias" on the masses, right? so limbaugh, savage, 30000 right wing radio shows, foxnews, ny post, national review, wsj--they are all part of the liberal conspiracy too? hmmmm
"the gop arent part of the republican party."
where was that stated? The GOP IS the Republican party. I have no idea what the Jews have to do with the liberal media. Sounds like you are reaching.
a previous poster said "the gop is not an arm of the republican party," which someone had to correct(sorry, this is my thread, i should be responsible for menial clean-up like that.) then YOU said "liberals and leftists ALIKE"--tell me, since you righties always throw around these terms like "marxist" "stalinist" "communist" socialist" et al like you're college freshman, tell me, o connoisseur of labels, what is the difference between a "liberal" and a "leftist," educate me. and yes, you didnt specifically mention jews and for all i know you're not anti semitic, but so many people use conspiracy theories like "the liberal controlled media" to point to a small secret group in the shadows who runs the world, namely jews. you may not be guity of this but these conspiracy theories in general of "freemasons" "knights templar" et al feed into the subtext that's its all about jews, who many bigots are always accusing of being our secret puppet masters, we the brainwashed media zombies... is it a stretch? not if you go an inch below the surface...
I said that and nothing was corrected. The GOP is another term used to describe the Republicans. It is not a segment of the Republican party. Nothing was corrected. The person I was responding to was wrong. That is all. This conversation has become silly.
GOP stands for Grand Old Party. Grand Old Party = the Republican party. Period.
answer my question, numnutz: what's the diff between "liberals" and '"leftists"?
Sure thing northern boy.
Leftist refers to someone on the far left side of the political spectrum, not merely a liberal, but more radical, such as a progressive, socialist, communist or a particularly liberal member of the American Democratic Party. A leftist supports collectivism, more government control of the economy, direct government control over social policy, including Federal control over education at all levels, lower military spending, censorship of religion, a living constitution, same sex marriages, a more unisex society, globalism, transnationalism, and state-funded abortion.
http://conservapedia.com/Leftist
A liberal (not to be confused with a leftist) is someone who rejects traditional and Biblical standards, often for delusional altruistic reasons. Some may be Christian, but they are rarely immensely committed to Christianity. Liberalism began as a movement for individual liberties, but today is increasingly statist and, as in Europe, welfare state-ist. Liberalism has changed over the years and degenerated into a delusional (in the sense of economic views) and anti-traditional ideology.
http://conservapedia.com/Liberal
You actually pulled a definition from conservapedia?
Oh, shit!! That's funny.
So is you and your buddies thinking the GOP is only a portion of the Republican party..
Brandon, you are a wonderful parody of yourself. Why don't you Republiclones all move to Texass and secede, and leave the rest of us in peace?
Texas is weak. I prefer a more conservative southern state. We occupy much more land mass than Texas. We also outnumber the left.
Those weren't my words, sweet pea.
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so personal freedoms like abortion, the right to die, gay marriage, and flag burning are MORE control by govt, if allowed? wow, you dont see that argument every day....and i guess REVEREND al sharpton and REVEREND jesse jackson et al arent REAL christians like you who want to do away with funding for food stamps, public housing and medicaid, though jesus' mission in life (loaves and fishes etc) was to help the poor and needy. nice job
Where am I promoting Christianity? Al Sharpton makes his money by causing unrest in the Black community. Religion is the furthest thing from his mind.
wow, so now you're reading al sharpton's mind. you're one impressive guy. me right wing? i dont see where you get that...but dont bother explaining: you're so twisted up in knots, you have enough troubles figuring out what you think.
How stoned are you? What post are you even replying to?
you said "religion is the furthest thing from his[al sharpton's] mind" right? was that you or did the computer make a mistake?
wow, you really had reach far up your butt for that bs definition. you must have had practice lofl.
It's the same way you describe conservatives. Plus, you act as if you are right with your definition. So how does it taste?
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I've know how much they hate me since the 70s.
I realized how much they hate America since the 80s.
The feeling has become mutual, as the teabaggers have raised my taxes.
GOP=POS. .
More twisted H8 mongering from shloozer. You must have a persecution complex of some kind.
" teabaggers have raised my taxes." Now that's funny,care to explain that little gem?
Do your homework, lazy boy.
You apparently, backed and elected them. Not me.
It was up to you to keep an eye on the jerks.
You'll probably just play the usual republican con, and say that's not a real teabagger, that's a conservative.
It doesn't really matter, republicans have been lying about taxes since Reagan.
That's what people with an (R) next to their names do these days.
The sadly funny part, is the people that still believe in them.
Go cry to your little bitch Pelosi. Or Dirty Harry Ried, or chuck the schmuck Shumer. Or better yet cry to your little boy Barney Frank. Maybe you can get into the Gay services business and start up a whore house.
FLAKESnews overdose?
Next you'll be lost on Alex Jones.
Try getting education.
I'm sure you get your news from MSLSD, or Jon Stewart, aka liebowich. Jones makes more sense than Marxist Obamy, the well trained commie.
Your education probably came in a wheaties box. Loser.
Democrat=Thief Rebuibican=Not as much of a thief Libertarian=touch my money and I'll kill you
Ooooh,, death threats.
jerk.
Don't leave your money laying around on the innertubes.
Bite my ass you little boy.
Set it out, bitch.
Go find your butt buddy Barney.
I don't want your sloppy seconds.
I think you would.
Except, you don't think, you're a republican.
Again,this time focus.
" teabaggers have raised my taxes." Care to explain that? The burden of proof is on you lazy boy.
Typical lying Leftist,just shoot your mouth off with no facts.
The "facts" will be in my tax return.
I repeat--------------------I didn't elect them!!!!
Do your homework lazy boy.
Typical shiftless, lazy minded, righwingnut BS.
YOU have the burden of keeping an eye on the lying, lazy, nut jobs you voted for.
Just like your lazy boy, daddy Bush. "read my lips, no new taxes".
Then the liar, raised my taxes.
You people need to quit fantasizing about what the GOP really does.
Reagan did too!!! Lied and raised taxes.
Republican=Liar.
It really is that simple.
Even Nixon was a liar. "I am not a crook".
He was. Now they all want to be like him.
Now, show where republicans aren't liars.
Oh, wait, I forgot how lazy you are.
Never mind. Have fun in your republican, liars utopia.
How about making a post that isn't a lie. All you are doing is attempting to spread disinformation about your opposition. You hope to confuse the issue enough so people begin to believe your made up nonsense. It's a weaselly left wing tactic. People who indulge in this tactic are about as liked as a snitch. If your stance cannot convince people on merit, it's not worth looking at.
actually, id say it's the republican "party of family values" who usually focusses on some meaningless gossip from 40 years ago in their opponent's life: kerry's war medals, ted k's car accident, clinton's tiny whitewater land deal they finally found he did nothing wrong on(not to mentionmonica, who you shut down washington for 3 years over), obama's family, his birth certificate, on and on...meanwhile, democrats all rallied around bush after 9/11. bush had an approval rating of 90 percent for an entire year during that crisis---but did you r's ever support obama during this financial crisis? and then later, d's had enough votes to impeach bush on katrina, warrantless wiretappping, torture, ignoring warnings about 9/11, pre war iraq intel(plame,) and/or abramoff--but d's tried to move forward instead of wasting the country's time. that's the recent history, not what you say it is. of course, you same "family values" politicians who pretend to be saints, and make their careers bashing gays for votes, usually wind up being people like craig, vitter, foley, haggard, delay, ney and so many others. these people, unlike spitzer blago and weiner, are usually never even pressured to resign and remain in office "unmolested."
OK
Teabagger supporters are so lazy, they refuse to checkup on the people they helped elect.
Instead they believe the lies told to them by the likes of Limbaugh and FLAKESnews.
Teabaggers raised my taxes, after a Democrat kept them low.
Reagan raised taxes, as did the liar daddy Bush, after running for office on a no new taxes platform.
Bush the W, crashed the worlds economy with inane economic policies.
Nixon, really was a crook.
When you use the term "teabagger" you lose any credibility. When will the left figure that out?
I could care less about the Tea Party. They are not the reason the left will lose it all in 2012.
dear afterforever and brandon(what an awful name) id like to try a test with you, if you dont mind: go and read farleymowat's posts on this thread and tell me if you are in support of his obvious implied anti-semitism, sexism, anti gay bigotry, and mccarthy-esque labelling of all liberals as "commie"s. yes or no? im guessing that, like most all right wingers, you won't condemn his remarks. since the 60's you right wingers have tolerated the racists and bigots after they left the D party right after D's ended segregation and made a committment to minorities, women, and the poor--one which D's have kept , in spite of it costing votes and money. you tolerate them cuz you need the votes to win, just as you tolerate the evangelicals who want to take personal freedoms away. so stand up to the plate: what do you think of farleymowat's remarks?
How old are you?
cant answer? and you called me "northern boy." how do you know im from the north? i mean, i am, but is everyone you hate automatically from the north? we northerners paid to re-build the south after we lost so many troops so you couldnt keep blacks as property--and have supported you ever since. you complain so much about "liberal welfare" but your farmers get huge $100's billions in farm subsidies, often NOT to grow crops lofl. and yet, all you send us in return are guns, acid rain, tobacco, and "family values" laws. meanwhile, the south always leads the nation BY FAR in rates of obesity, teen pregnancy, smoking, and binge drinking, (not to mention crime, pollution, and illiteracy.) these drive up healthcare premiums for the whole country. i dont mind paying extra for "y'all," but it would be nice if you werent so obsessed with hating the north that you would simply assume that im a northerner just because you dont like me lofl.
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hmmm you must have left for the dog fights / nascar rally. oh well. ps of course, most southerners are great people, not caught up in any of this bs, although many of them did wind up moving away, up from those states with that pervasive culture of "god, guns, and anti-gay..."
It appears you've had amnesia since Jan 2009. But that's not surprising,most Leftists have a selective memory.
Teabaggers raised my taxes.
Well at least you admit , by omission, how lazy you really are.
So full of hate, you can't admit or search for truth.
Just tune in to Ann Coulter, 'cause. hey radiation is good for you. It's all natural.
Pepper spray? Aww, it's just food product.
Teabaggers are functionally brain dead, thanks to FLAKESnews and the likes of Limbaugh.
It shows in all your posts.
Man,all you're doing is calling names and being obnoxious. You're angry and confused,your Messiah has screwed up big time,the economy is in the tank,you've realized how you placed your bets on a real Loser and now it's too late. You're clearly lashing out and blaming everybody else just like Obama does. Fox news and Rush aren't to blame for the devastation Lord Obama has wrought upon this nation. Leftist,Socialist,Progressive ideology and policies are to blame. Now you just have to be honest with yourself,but that will never happen. The fact that you have fallen for the hoax of climate-gate/change is all the proof needed to bare witness to your piss poor judgement.
do you really think people cant even remember as long as 3 YEARS AGO?? the economy tanked under bush--americans blamed bush and the r's for that then, and 70 percent still do today, a huge majority. when obama took office, the economy was in freefall. since then, we've had private sector job growth almost every month and the stock market has gone up almost 6000 points--my investments are doing GREAT! so sorry you're suffering so much: the reason is probably that you didnt go to college(since r's cut aid) and so advances in robotics and 2 billion newly educated asians added to the workforce probably threaten you unskilled job :(
I posted one simple fact.
I was called a liar.
I responded in kind.
Read your own convoluted, insulting post, and tell me again how FLAKESnews and Limbaugh have no affect on the dialog.
Throwing out a word like "convoluted" without any context or meaning tell me more about your level of knowledge and lack there of. I'm sorry if your feelings were hurt when you were called a lair,but sometimes when you don't speak the truth others will use this terminology to better describe you.
Teabaggers raised my taxes.
That's the truth.
You are a liar, for saying it's not true.
It really is that simple.
Who do you think you are expecting these poor people to try to explain the statement they make. What gives you the right? Members of OWS have voiced opinions presented as facts since the beginning. Someone like you has no right to get in the way of that.
internet sarcasm
Don't hate them. There are areas for agreement. Just do not put 2 or 3 of them together or it will get crazy
The truth about the OWS exposed here http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/occupy-la-30-tons-of-debris-left-behind-at-city-hall-tent-city.html
Ha only ones that like the OWS goons are their selves even the dummycrats hate you clowns
Whose a good boy? Whose a good boy? Our wittle mikePac is a good boy!
Does our good boy want a treat? Jump boy. Jump!!
Goood boy.
Probably not as much as the lefty losers hate for those who refuse to subscribe to Marxist rants from the loser left.
farleymowat, after reading your postings, id like to get your opinion on the new laws in republican states like alabama, south carolina and arizona which allow racial profiling of "suspected" illegal immigrants. i mean, that sounds like an orwellian "marxist" police state to you right?
I only know a bit of Arizona, because it is in the news. Immigrants that are not here by legal means should be sent home and go to the back of the line. Many wait for years to gain entry and it is wrong to condone illegal immigration, in lew of cheap labor. That is exploitation. As far as profiling? That is the most logical way of weeding out those who don't belong here, right? If a bank has been robbed, and the description of the suspect is an 80 pound blonde woman, 5 feet tall, one would not look for a black person 6 feet tall, correct. If a person is stopped, has no drivers license, and speaks broken English, would it be unreasonable to ask that person to prove if he is here legally? Any person, in our country, and not a citizen, should be required to prove they are here legally, if stopped. If a cop asks me for a drivers license, is that harassment? Maybe. I do not see how that would be infringing on someone's "rights".
well, you sure have cleaned up your act from your earlier posts about "your butt boy barney frank" and other bigotry, nice job...as far as your paranoia about immigrants goes: lets just stop anyone in the street with brown skin who doesnt speak perfect english or, like most people who live in cities, has no need for a driver's license(this was your criteria), and demand they prove who they are. i thought you righties wanted a smaller less intrusive govt who stays out of our lives? i guess that doesnt apply to non-whites, or a woman choosing an abortion, or a terminally ill person in pain wanting the right to die or use medical weed, or burn the flag, or have a gay marriage, or be free from torture, warrrantless wiretapping and several other personal freedoms you rw'ers want to or already have take away to court the 80 million evangelicials you make a coordinated effort with the church to get to vote for your side.
Listen here now. Paranoia? I think not. I've been pulled aside many times. I have to prove my ability to drive by providing a drivers license. If I couldn't speak English would it be wrong for the cop to ask for proof I am in the country legally, if I couldn't provide a drivers license? One thing leads to another, if you know what I mean. No license, hmm. Proof of insurance? No. hmm. No comprende? Hmm. Papers please. It's very simple. As far as Barney Frank goes, I'm glad the slobbering little whore house running ass is retiring. Nothing against the fat ass prick, really.
why should someone have to carry a passport(which costs money) just because of their skin color or english ability? maybe the cops(local, state or fbi) should just be able to wiretap you without a warrant, torture you, scour your medical and financial records for anything embarrassing: after all, if youve done nothing illegal, why should you be worried that someone might abuse that power? and you hate fat people as well as gays too eh? what about all the gay, black, hispanic and muslim american soldiers who died in foreign wars protecting your freedom? what do you think of them?
Don't get carried away, now. Relax take a breath. A deep one. I have fat gay friends but they don't wear it on the sleeve. Have skinny gay friends who do wear it on the sleeve. I don't give a damn if someone is queer, straight, or bi. I don't fucking care. At all. I don't like 13 million assholes in this country illegally either. Round them up. Get them the fuck out. Dig?
well, the party who you hope wins every election DOES care. you tolerate the gay bashers cuz you need the votes. people like larry craig, david vitter, mark foley and ted haggard made their whole careers bashing gays. that's why 95 percent of gays vote democrat in every election. ANY TIME you hear the word "faggot" (or "nigger") used in anger, it's always from a right winger. and the right wing always talks tough on immigration around election time for a campaign issue, but never does anything about it. obama wants to FINE EMPLOYERS who hire illegals, but r's dont like that idea because it punishes the richest 1 percent. however, that seems to me a more sensible approach than herman cain's electric fence around america...the fact is, your own ancestors were immigrants and now, many many farmers say they need the cheap immigrant labor to stay in business, these people who gladly take jobs most americans wont do.
Democrats are the ones who fought against slavery, civil rights. Where the he'll you been? What are you, 12?
yes, lincoln was a republican: that was 150 years ago when that term meant something totally different from the modern meaning...but, although the kkk has always aligned itself with the R party, democratsDID used to have many racists in our party. then, in the 1960's, democrats effectively kicked those racists out of our party when d's ended segregation, knowing the south would probably never vote for a democrat for president ever again--and they havent.. there are barely even any d congressmen from the south these days--now we have "great patriotic" southern R congressmen who side with japanese car companies who have plants down south willing to let the northern AMERICAN auto industry die as well as side with southern oil companies who deny global warming and the feasiblity of alternative energy and electric cars... so yes, the racist "dixiecrats" who gave d's control of the southern vote bid farewell to the d party 50 years ago. now, of course, d's do enjoy 95 percent of the black vote in every election, but it's too badso few blacks vote. ps and truman integrated the military.
And the civil rights act of 1964 passed because of conservatives, not the racist dems. The libs I knew growing up in the 60's were a bunch of N word users. Btw 94 % of blacks voted for Obama. Why? Because he was seen as a great leader? No, because of the color of his skin. He has never accomplished a thing. Nothing. All he is is an academia. A shabby one at that
no, blacks have voted democrat for the past 50 years, no matter what that d's skin color is. "never accomplished anything"? he passed the biggest healthcare reform in 50 years, a huge stimulus which most experts think saved us from another hooveresque great depression, risked his presidency to kill bin laden, toppled kadafi who was coddled by bush for oil, inspried the arab spring, passed wall street reform which the R"s opposed, and took the political risk clinton got so bruised by by ending "dont ask dont tell" so your alleged "gay friends" can now serve openly...see, most of your R pals think he's done TOO MUCH, while you say "not anything." get your stories straight. ...and you miss my point about the civil rights act: after that is WHEN all the racist D dixiecrats BECAME r's, get it? its real tough to grasp lofl.
Stimulus? Wtf are you a moron? He stimulated nothing. We are in a depression dipshit. He has spent us into oblivion worse than bush by many fold. Bush was a spending disaster, of which Obama supported. Obama has taken a typical economic downturn cycle, and created a fucking disaster. And fuck his foreign policy.it is the same as bush's. I'm really impressed he murdered Ghadaffy. Not. Wall street reform? The bullshit started with the first black presidents signing the repeal of Glass Steagall act of 1933. You are a damn retard. Go have a lobotomy and do us all some good.
Btw, Obama does not want to fine employers who hire illegals. His approach is hands off. He is responsible for Fast and Furious though, although he will never have to answer for his murderous blunder. What a fake. What an empty suit. What a jerk. That's right, Obama is a jerk, and a creep, and a hater of America. Selling guns to drug smugglers. That is our president. A supporter of lawlessness.
everything you jsut said is either a lie or has zero evidence. do you have ANY proof obama knew about "fast and furious"? there hasnt even been an investigation yet, much less indictments or convictions--what about "innocent until proven guilty"? and from what ive read, "fast and furious" startred under bush....also , obama did NOT support bush and the r's(who all supported bush in congress) massive corporate welfare for oil compnies, tobacco, drug companies, polluters, outsourcers--d's all voted against that, including obama. fortunately, when d's took congress in 2007, all that corporate welfare stopped.when d's could finally block it. ..also , we are NOT in a depression: the stock market has gone up almost 6000 points since obama took over, never been so high. my investments are doing great! sorry your life sux so much: you should have gone to college and learend a skilled trade so you wouldnt be so threatened by unskiilled immigrant labor and advances in robotics...obama had to spend money on the things that bush ignored, paying for 2 useless wars instead that our own military think were a huge mistake. do you want to drive on crumbling roads and brigdes that havent been repaired since the 1950's? we SHOULDNT have spent on that, but you want to spend MORE on more useless nukes and weapnos systems the r's want when america already spends more on the military than all the other developed countries COMBINED?. ...AND you know who thinks the stimulus WAS a success that saved us from another depression? the congressional budget office(CBO) which is made up of half dems/half repubs: they all had to admit it did work--but i guess it's nothing compared to your great expertise. lofl.do you even have a BA in economics? and our debt comes mostly from R presidents: clinton finally balanced the budget but as soon as bush took power, he worked with the same R congress clinton had to give away the balanced budget in huge tax cuts for wall street and a disaster in iraq....its amazing that you're actually trying to argue that repubs tried to do MORE regulation than d's of the financial markets, when you usually call d's communists for trying to do so....and i stopped using insults like "retard" around the 5th grade. maybe you need to grow up and stop blaming others for YOUR OWN FAILURES inlife with your pathetic bigotry :(
If he didn't know about fast and furious, he is still in charge. He knew. That kind of bullshit doesn't happenmwithout the top knowing. Wake the fuck up. And the CBO thinks stimulus was a success? Prove it bitch. Clinton stopped the rate of growth, he didn't reduce a fucking thing. That was under a republican congress and senate too, so I won't give slick willy to much credit, (except for his love for girls, barely past puberty) if you want to play the morality game.
flamer? that's not what ur mama said last night. so you're saying you think bush DID know about putting val plame in danger, and about abramoff bribing 30 congressmen and in the bush admin, and reagan did know about selling arms to iranian terrorists,to fund central american drug lords who promised to kill "commies" but didnt--while reagan openly supported saddam and bin laden against iran and the ussr...YOU have to PROVE obama knew. that's how our legal system works, get it? lots of things happen n america without the president knowing. he certaintly didnt WANT drug dealers to get guns right? i mean, how can you prove obama "hates america"? its your hero rush limbaugh who literally SAID he wanted obama to fail: in other words, your hero rush,america's "most popular republican,"has HOPED americans would lose more jobs and homes and that the recession would continue, just so obama would look bad. what a patriot....and even a collie dog knows the cbo report. dont you even have the energy to go google it yourself? geez. and yes, we had NO DEFICIT under clinton, a surplus in fact, which that same R congress clinton had happily gave away as soon as bush became president, in the form of debt borrowed from china for bush's huge corporate welfare like $100 billion for his oil friends in texas in 2005 when the oil companies were already making record profits and charging $4/gallon. this is something that d's in congress voted AGAINST. andhere it is, the cbo thing: BUSTED!!http://blogs.ajc.com/jay-bookman-blog/2011/11/23/cbo-reports-stimulus-package-was-a-major-economic-success/?cxntfid=blogs_jay_bookman_blog
Check your facts on the stock market too, educated one. 6000 points? You obviously are a retarded person, or a failure in economics101. You jump around too much too. The only nukes we should use are the ones we drop on your house! The way it works dipshit, is when an asshole fucks up, like Holder, he resigns, or the president fires him. Get it? You are a fucking flamer though, I'll give you that.