Forum Post: Did Oakland Police Intentionally Shoot Marine Vet Scott Olsen In the Head?
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 28, 2011, 9:30 p.m. EST by Scout
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MARINE VETERAN WAS PEACEFULLY STANDING WHEN ATTACKED BY POLICE
READ THIS ACCOUNT !!!!!!
Karl Denninger argues that the police intended to hit Olsen in the head:
Sure not, because this type shooting roughly. It happened accidentally. Or Olson could may be crazy and hit himself.
of the very many comments on the video Anonymous produced no one else seems to agree with you TROLL
Anonymous message to Scott Olsen of Occupy Oakland
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hx_FwSx0Fo&feature=player_embedded
The damage to Scott's head is from the muzzle velocity of the canister,. it was not thrown at him is was aimed and shot directly at his head,. the guy was standing peacefully and was intentionally shot in the head.
Thank you so much. That link tells the whole story.
The Truth must come out in this incident and the promised investigation should be all about the Truth not a PR campaign to cover it.
Whitewash won't work. The video is too clear. It was undeniably irresponsible and wreckless what the police did. They way over-reacted to the situation.
The case is very strong that IT WAS INTENTIONAL, but I will wait for that investigation, ok, but let's not forget about this. We need to be ready to react to a cover-up since this will be their tactic as well as dragging out the investigation as long as possible.
I'm sure OWS will be firmly behind this issue.
This report is very impressive and it goes a long way to insuring Justice.
did you click on the link regarding the Obama administration? not surprising i guess f*cking hypocrites Despite Iraq Vet’s Cracked Skull, DoJ Sees No Evil in Occupy Crackdown
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/10/doj-occupy-crackdown/
Interim Police Chief Howard Jordan said Olsen's injury will be treated as a Level 1 investigation, which is the same as if police had used lethal force. A Level 1 investigation involves not only Internal Affairs, but the district attorney and the office of the Inspector General.
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-oakland-police-absolutely-violated-their-own-crowd-control-policy-2011-10#ixzz1cAdp7NHH
Below is section two from the Oakland Police Training Bulletin.
b. The use of Direct Fired SIM must cease when the violent or destructive actions cease. These weapons must not be used for the purpose of apprehension or to otherwise prevent escape unless escape would present a substantial risk of continued imminent threat to loss of life or serious bodily injury.
This thing is blowing wide open. As I said, we need to stay on top of it and continue to demand Justice. I do believe what went down was horribly tragic and this Iraq War Veteran is lucky to have survived.
ALSO, they will NOT be capable of ignoring this incident as long as we know and care.
Police departments shouldn't be militarized.
That's one of the most comprehensive reports I've seen yet. Thanks for posting.
Zerohedge is an incredible site
I really don't think they intended to hit him in the head. From what I understand the protesters were throwing paint at the police. The police aren't there to act as bad guys, if they wanted to do that they would open fire into the crowd. I don't think their intention is to hurt people but when people don't behave maturely and throw stuff, it starts to become aggressive. Look at the Boston massacre the protesters were throwing rocks at the British and they accidentally started shooting. Seriously just ignore the cops and act civil and these things won't happen.
We can't look at the Boston Massacre because it was over 200 years ago...and the British were wrong in that one.
But I agree it wasn't overtly intentional to hit him in the head, and with the tension between both sides...shit happens...but I think Oakland PD could have handled the situation a little better since they're supposed to be the pro's.
Your opinion has been noted but you are wrong
noted....
If we can see the flash bang thrown, which is an international violation of Geneva, then I think we can assume the canister was intentional too.
Your opinion don't mean shit. The video speaks for it's self
I do agree that all police arent all villians, but this asshole punk cop that shot that second device into those that were coming to the aid of a fallen citizen should be put in jail.
Gas masks are a pain in the ass to see out of, it's possible he didn't clearly realize the situation and just saw a bunch of people running forward....not absolving him of what he did though...knowing you can't see shit out of a gas mask...better caution should be taken...
And maybe a better dispersal system of tear gas needs to be invented....besides better policy in it's use...
If you watch the video a second time you'll see he wasn't hit until there was smoke already in the area. From that officer's perspective he might not have been able to see Scott Olsen when he shot the round that hit him. You also can't really tell who fired the shot that landed near the crowd since the original officer backed behind several other cops. You have to understand that the cops are probably really scared. There are a ton more protesters than them and they don't know what to expect. They probably have a lot of adrenaline pumping through them and it probably doesn't take much to set them off.
Valid points. I would not want to be a cop in that situation
I agree. It was a tense situation. It was cloudy and the cops are having stuff thrown back at them. It is unfortunate for sure, but it is a stretch to say it was intentional.