Forum Post: corporations control the government
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 16, 2011, 10:52 p.m. EST by ronimacarroni
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Therefore it makes more sense to protest against corporations rather than the government.
Amirite?
Its kind of hard to have a discussion when somebody uses a "dislike bot" to silence opinions they don't like.
Yeah - whats up with that? Every post I make is getting negged...
A tad over-simplified, I'd say.
Well okay, they don't control the government ENTIRELY.
They just get to decide which politician gets the money.
...and the politician needs to actually accept that money to complete the transaction.
Well the money threshold has gone way up since the citizens united decision.
The 2012 elections are expected to cost each candidate nearly 1 billion dollars in advertising and campaigning. Its nuts!
No you are not right. Regardless of what these left wing garbage say the two go hand in hand. What I find hilarious about all of this is the slavish adherence to the powers that be propaganda here.
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I'm actually looking forward to restrictions.
As in, you legally can't merge and investment firm and bank.
Or, you legally have to allow your employees to have basic bargaining rights.
what are basic bargaining rights? how do employees not have them?
It means for employees to have a voice in the company and getting a fair share if the corporation they work for does well.
who are you to tell me how to run my business? why should i listen to some entry level person? why should i give them any more money if i make record profits? none of these are rights.
corporations ARE the government -- http://occupywallst.org/forum/hosni-bloombarak/
http://occupywallst.org/forum/hosni-bloombarak/
You say you want a revoulution, well you know, we all want to change the world. Stockholders have power. Most of us own shares. We give away this power. Take responsibility for the capital you inject into the economy. Create, innovate, compete.
If most of you own shares why don't you vote the corrupt CEO's out of the companies...
Not most of you--most of us. That is the point. Free markets and capitalism are not the failure, Corruption is. Free people must take responsibility for the power we weild. We should participate in civil and corporate governance.
Big oil rules the world. Nothing you can do about it. It has been that way for a 100 years. We need oil. There is no replacement. Everything we use comes from oil. If you don't think so, google. You will be blown away!! Everything that we get or buy comes on a train, ship, or 18 wheel truck. They don't have electric ones yet. So, big oil rules the world. Get over it and wait for black friday and all the deals.
There's tons of energy sources we could use besides oil.
Heck I've seen cars powered by compressed air that can run 200 miles.
And these technologies are not even new!
But apparently the US can't come up with a solution that doesn't involve subsidizing corn even more or keeping their multi-billion dollar oil cash cow.
Btw why are electric cars still not available to the public?
Its like hydrogen cars, big show no delivery.
I am a car guy. I'll tell you why. The GM Impact all electric car came out about 25 years ago. Went about 100 miles on a charge. Just would not work if you lived in a place like greater LA. Just would not go far enough on a charge. Now it is 25 years later and the Chevy Volt is here and so is the Nissan Leaf . The Leaf goes about 90 miles on a charge!!!!! The Volt must use it's electric motor to really get anywhere and it costs $37,000!!!! For a Malibu type of a car. In almost 30 years the cars are no better!!!! Do you know what kind of BMW you can get fot that? The problem is, we are just not there yet. The electric cars are still years away from real use. Also, the Chev Volt is just not selling in large numbers. Hydrogen cars will never be here at all because it just costs too much to make them. You must use electricity to make hydrogen, then turn the hydrogen into electricity. We are just not there yet. Maybe 50 more years. We still cannot make a good battery.
How does the electricity get made for electric cars?
How are the batteries manufactured and where and how are those electric cars transported from the factories to the showrooms?
And where do they all end up when they've been totalled or become obsolete or the new model year comes out?
And how much do these answers differ from the same questions asked of gasoline cars?
I've heard the old argument of electric cars using power from coal power plants.
But I'm sure many people would probably buy some solar panels and save even more money if they had electric cars.
Also it'd help if the government put in some charge stations along highways.
Even if people are not environmentalists, I'm sure they would see the benefit of getting rid of our dependency in oil once and for all.
Also the poster above mention that electric cars actually get less mileage with the new batteries. What gives?