Forum Post: Corporation owning Zucotti park to clearcut log pristine BC island forest
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 28, 2011, 12:25 a.m. EST by occupyforests
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Full story here: http://www.vancouverobserver.com/blogs/earthmatters/2011/12/23/logging-pristine-bc-island-forest-begin-january-brookfield-asset
Petition here: http://www.petitiononline.com/petitions/PCIFores/signatures
Brookfield Asset Management is the corporation based in Toronto that owns Zucotti park where the Occupy Wall Street movement started and was evicted!
They also own Island Timberlands, which owns 635,000 acres of forests on the BC coast.
Among those forest, there is beautiful pristine forest on Cortes island. For a glimpse: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRnf1tsaFWc&feature=share
Cortes Island has been resisting the logging companies for decades, but now they need all the help they can!
We are all connected and we need to make all our fights global!
Sign the petition, bring this to media attention, write to the corporation... I know there is a way you can help.
I think the link between Zucotti park and the BC forests is interesting enough to make a good story so that the word can spread...
Thanks!
This is why we are here this is why you are needed.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/inside-job-documentary/
Share, circulate, educate, inspire.
Do you think that spamming a copy-and-paste advertisement is inspirational?
I think copying and pasting good content is productive. It opens the opportunity that more will come across it.
Why? Do you have a problem with the message?
That's the only motivation that you can imagine? You turn toward infighting immediately?
First off I've lived on Cortes most of my life .... This is not an OLD GROWTH FOREST. Its second and third growth trees Many of which are severly diseased. The Campaign is about some wealthy americans who want to purchase the private land for their personal estates. The Land is ZONED FORESTRY and cannot be developed. Having a forest management plan thats spread out over 100 years is not forest liquidation. Its Sustainable Forestry that includes restoration work on unhealthy forest patches. The proof is on the ground.... A forest is still standing After 70 years of a logging and replanting by a forest company.
Alot of Money is being spent on this HATE campaign. Alot of DISHONEST information is being produced....
Where's the transparency of the campaigners?
Respectfully
The message did get to OWS in the end... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdq_iwpHiTY&feature=youtu.be
DiogenesTruth2 hit it right on the head and it is there goddamned property and they can do whatever the fuck they want with it. The corporation doesn't tell you to keep everything in your yard the same because they want to keep it pristine now do they?
So if someone owned all of america's forests and decided to log them all, you'd say "it's there goddamned property and they can do whatever the fuck they want with it"?
Actually yes I would. Same as I would let you burn your house down as long as it didn't burn anyone else's property. Corporations don't tell you what to do with your property so what gives you that right?
I think land ownership is a questionable premise. At the very least, there should be responsibilities attached to it. If you claim to own the land you live on, at least be responsible and reasonable when your actions affect the organisms that also live on that same piece of land.
Ok so this is about animals having the same rights that I do. Which, by the way, they do not.
Hi occupyforests, Signed. Saw an article recently about this corporation getting a $168,000,000 US government subsidy. Now we know what they are doing with their corporate welfare money. Best Regards, Nevada
thanks!
Logging starts in January by the way. Action is needed soon!
clear cutting strengthens forests. there is nothing deader than an old growth forest. millions and millions of acres of wextern alpine forests are sick due to man's intervention. had we clear cut more forests or let them burn, ee would have vibrant biologically active ecosystems.
In this case, a road is going to be built, and once the land is fully logged it will be sold to developers. I don't see how that strengthen the forests.
I agree that letting the forests burn can be healthy. I disagree that logging a whole patch of land, and removing all the logs from the land does anything healthy for a forest.
if they are skinning the entire island, i would agree with you. however if it is judicious well planned opening of the forest floor to light, thats a good thing. drive thru colorado, wyoming and south dakota and see mile after mile of beetle killed forests. native americans burned the forests to make them healthy.
Yes, this isn't about managing and preserving the forests, this is about cutting all the trees, selling them to china, paving a road and selling the land for housing development.
the answer is simpe. buy the land in question at the market price and dedicate to a park.
This is part of the solution and has been in the works for a while. Money has been raised for another section, the corporation asked for twice the assessment value. More money will likely be raised, land might be purchased here and there, but in the end this will only save a drop in the bucket. And if I buy one piece of land from a logging company, they will just get another one elsewhere to log with that money... Deeper, systemic and societal change is needed if we want to protect whatever we have left of our ecosystems.
logging is not a bad thing. clear cutting is not a bad thing. if its a particularly significant property, OK, save it. but most forests need turnover, they need change. i am an absolute expert on western montane ecosystems and i know what is best. the floor of an old growth forest might as well be utterly devoid of life. life flourishes on the edges, in all ecosystems. ocean, desert, forest.
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This particular ecosystem has cougars, wolverines, salmon streams. In similar places that have been logged, all I see is lawns & houses, and yes I guess the deer do flourish on the edges...
This is more of a deforestation and not a clearcut that is designed to mimick forest fires
I signed.
There are MORE TREES in north america NOW than when Christopher Columbus landed here!!!
source?
YOU look it up. the information is easily accessible
Maybe there are more trees now than 200+ years ago, so what? The number of trees isn't by itself an indicator of the health of our forests