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Forum Post: Communism help please

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 14, 2011, 12:35 a.m. EST by TeaParty (27)
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We need the help of mother Russia and china. We need a better solution to work more and get less. There is no corporate greed there.

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[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 13 years ago

............

    Americans are more afraid of the word 'socialism' 
      than they are of cancer, hiv or world war III.
        and they will fight it to their graves …

    Calm down people, you are only fighting a 'word' …    
      Neither socialism or capitalism exist in nature 
                  without the other…
           Alone they are mere philosophies… 

   Socialism without capitalistic freedom & incentives 
            will fail just as miserably as 
            Capitalism without regulation 
              has just demonstrated... 

  We can build a "true democracy" founded on the dreams 
           of all mankind & all ideologies...
                   We are the 99%
[-] 1 points by dankpoet (425) 13 years ago

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[-] 1 points by Dost (315) 13 years ago

Very bizarre commentary here. Could be rightwing nutjob. Just for the record (are you concentrating>), we defeated Communism and look what it got us, Russia and China both using capitalism and state capitalism to compete with us and they will beat us at our own game. It's ironic, isn't it, We gonna be sorry we defeated Communism with all the new competition. And they offer lower wages and can draw capital away. Fade out America. Masses of unemployed Americans, maybe ready for rebellion. Fight the Plutocracy, Liberate Wall Street

[-] 1 points by michaelbravo (222) 13 years ago

communism didnt work because of the same reasons we are in this boat..greed corruption and the lust for power...social democracy without corporate lobbyists..then take on the world finance structur...(fractional reserve banking)

[-] 1 points by Dost (315) 13 years ago

Michael, trying to get all your meaning here, I;m lost. and losing patience. quick, say something with absolute clarity, a complete thought,perhaps

[-] 1 points by michaelbravo (222) 13 years ago

dost i am agreeing with you communism failed and now both russia and china are both capitalist countrys..communism failed because it will only work when the human population is clean from the inside out...NO GREED NO LUST FOR POWER and we both know that is not going to happen so what we need is a compassionate social democracy with no corporate influence on the democracy and no corrupt polititions..and a population that knows democracy is not a spectator sport..it takes involvment and education

[-] 1 points by Dost (315) 13 years ago

Wow, don't know what to think here. I thought we started out in opposite camps. Like, are you schizophrenic?

[-] 1 points by michaelbravo (222) 13 years ago

no man you just read me wrong..sting from the police said...there is no political solution...to our troubled evolution..but that dosent mean we shouldnt try!! while we do the soul work to make sure we are not hypocrites http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QrDLwSgg24

[-] 1 points by Dost (315) 13 years ago

wow, man, we must be attuned then cause I was just saying the same thing to a good friend of mine who is really raging, I dig it. man. Cool.

[-] 1 points by michaelbravo (222) 13 years ago

im totally in tune with the whole planetary vibe and so are you here is my latest only 1 day old save it!! share it!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QrDLwSgg24

[-] 1 points by Rmarks1701 (103) 13 years ago

You said exactly the reason why communism does not work:

"work more and get less"

there was no corporate greed in pre-1990 Russia because they had no money, no good, nothing. It is hard to be greedy when there is nothing to be greedy about.

As to China, you may want to take a closer look at the very scary monster they are producing over there. Pure Capitalism married to Communism........A state where the rich get richer even quicker on slave labour.

[-] 1 points by NoMatter (45) 13 years ago

What you see there is just a practiced corruption of the theory. Communism's aim, in theory, is democracy. Socialism and capitalism have the same aims. It is silly to think there are any differences between them in practice. The only degrees are in the level of political corruption. The more the corruption, the more the inequality and the less democracy there is.

[-] 1 points by FuManchu (619) 13 years ago

There is no corruption there either. That is the reason people from USA used to move to the USSR in the good old days. They had a perfect system.

[-] 1 points by whywhy12 (1) 13 years ago

The soviet union was far far away from perfect. Would you enjoy being sent to the gulag for having a different opinion? Stalin killed millions of his own people and you call that perfect? I'm sorry, but that's just odd to me.

[-] 1 points by Rmarks1701 (103) 13 years ago

I do not know of a lot of people who moved from west to east (across the so called iron curtain), how ever during the cold war the number of people who moved from east to west (from communism to democracy) was significant. Over 3.5 million Germans left east Germany before the Berlin wall was constructed, and after that there were over 5000 successful attempts of people escaping from east to west before the wall was taken down, with an unknown number who failed.

throw in all the defections and you will see that the number who went from east to west far outstrips the number who went west to east.

[-] 0 points by ohallothar (60) 13 years ago

Why should we ask for the help of capitalists

[-] 1 points by TeaParty (27) 13 years ago

Who can we ask for help, Canada?

[-] 1 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 13 years ago

some crazy fricking Canadian's already helped us ;)

[-] 1 points by ohallothar (60) 13 years ago

y should we ask for help from capitalists