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No, this will not be the final nail in the antropogenic portion of the climate debate.
It's just another term latched onto by rightwing nimrods and other assorted jackasses to bolster the lame theory that in fact the entire debate over global warming is some concoction, some conspiracy, designed to profit someone
but whom they never say.
Some illusive they
Yes.
They.
I will tell you who profits. It's quite simple really. the Fossil Fuel industry profits - and quite handsomely as the price per gallon amply demonstrates - the fossil fuel industry profits from every single day of production while demand is maintained at 98% of production capacity
Had we begun alternative energy research in a serious and committed manner ten or twenty years ago, perhaps we could have reduced that ratio between production capacity and demand - but this was not allowed.
This was not allowed because of butterfly ballots and spin masters capitalizing on well meaning scientists grown cynical by time, worn by entrenched resistance to fact . . .
this was not allowed by liars and scum who would sell their own childrens' future for profit and hang the rest of us so long as they remain seated upon the lap of luxury
Ah. Got that out of my system. It is a good thing there is a huge vacuum of cybernetic space separating us, because I did, just now, loose my head.
What you have posted is useful. It does serve to illustrate the methodology of the liars who will do what they can to preserve the empires they serve.
We are past peak oil production. There is no rational explanation for their expenditures in such disinformation. Yet there it is. Irrational and unreasoned as it maybe.
WE should simply march into the offices of petroleum and coal, arrest top management for sedition, shoot them, and convert their corporations to public institutions.
Then there would be no more question about anthopogenisis and we could all focus more clearly on what, exactly, we will do about global warming.
Please go back to your cabin Ted...
whose side are you on here?
Was it Time? Or Newsweek?
One of them ran a story about Ted indicating he had been subject to psychological research while he was at university . . .
can you say . .
They admitted to lying, notice you did not address one supposed lie. Emotion can be dangerous.
fukin right it can be dangerous no shit it can be fukin dangerous and what do you think is gonna happen when all the little righties with guns wake up and realize they've been lied to . . .
climate change may not be real, but trolls certainly are.
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100017393/climategate-the-final-nail-in-the-coffin-of-anthropogenic-global-warming/
This story is TWO YEARS OLD!
Congratulations, Infowar, you are the poster child of the day for personality disorder. So far.
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thanks for the good link and as i pointed out below i made this post because AGWers are trying to turn OWS into their vessel.
Once again, it's TWO YEARS OLD. Old News. You owe us all an apology for reproducing it without comment. Until you do, and retract your accusation that I made an ad hominem attack against you, my criticism stands.
Those letters were proven to be incorrect anyway. This is for you: http://ecocentric.blogs.time.com/2010/11/16/getting-past-climategate-syndrome/
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LOL I posted this because people are trying to make OWS an AGW plaything. So i guess you can not handle the truth, so you use ad hominem?
No, you're trying to make OWS a climate denial plaything. I don't see anyone else making posts about global warming, just you.
I guess you can't handle the truth, so you use the "I'm a victim of an ad hominem".
It's YOUR opinion that People are trying to make OWS an AGW plaything. Therefore any attack on that opinion's basis is not ad hominem.
The story you posted is TWO YEARS OLD but you don't mention that. That is PATENT FALSEHOOD AND MISDIRECTION. Therefore any attack on that is not ad hominem.
I deduced that your immoral use of misdirection and half truths indicates a sociopathic disregard for normative behavior, so I determined you suffer from a personality disorder. That is not ad hominem.
Your turn
I posted a new incident for you. Also what half-truths they admitted to manipulating data to make global warming look real.
I know, I know. IT IS TWO YEAR OLD NEWS! We've been through this. You still don't get it. And you still have not retracted your accusation. Therefore you are STILL A TROLL!
Read the news the emails prove they conspired to hide the facts.
GET A GRIP.
THEREFORE
Deal with it.
Oil slut
So you can't refute this, Gore Whore?
You got nothing to refute buddy. That shit is beyond weak. A whole 61 megabytes and nothing there at all.
Who is a denier now?
You are sad. I almost feel bad for you
I should feel bad for you all head and no brain. Why not debate then if you are so holy and right?
There is nothing to debate. You are just spewing the same bullshit that sean hannity and others have been saying for years. You nit pick from stolen emails and still have nothing even worthy of propaganda. It's just annoying at this point
No, I did not address that. I do not care if they did. You have reference one instance, which indeed, does create a bad impression, just as one instance of rioting and burning in one city does, indeed, create a bad impression.
This one instance cannot impeach the sum of evidence nor the efforts of honest scientists around the world who have initiated a stark warning to humanity - first signaled around 1988 - that the entire globe faces pending catastrophe because of our glorious consumption of fossil fuel.
and when all the little righties with all their automatic weapons realize they've been lied to for all these years
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Maybe you should look into the scientific community a little closer. Most all scientists that study it say it is not human created and that's where this "they" work for the oil companies comes from.
We could start at the beginning -
you're just another lying fukc and if I could reach through the long arm of fiber optics you would lie no more
We already know that scientists were prevented from telling the real story prior to the election so it could be deemed as false. This is an issue that this movement does not need to focus on at the moment so stop derailing the thread.
Edit: perhaps I shouldn't get too involved in this. I could do way more damage than good.
I will say this, it is my understanding that the emails consisted mostly of people being people, expressing frustration at the state of things and venting. I too would be thrilled, oddly, by any number of political opponents kicking the bucket, that does not invalidate my beliefs, just underscores the darker crevices of humanity.
What did I say?
I said:
We could start at the beginning -
and then I said something else, which was quite true, and totally inappropriate. Should I apologize?
never!
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goodness - I must be getting delirious - either that or someone is playing games with my comments . . .
Yeah, climate change. What crap. Except for the record tornado season: http://blogs.wwlp.com/2011/05/23/a-record-breaking-tornado-season/
And the record breaking hurricane season in 05 http://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/record2005.asp
And the bizarre earth quakes: http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Record_EarthQuake_Strikes_South_Texas_132253673.html
I don't know if global warming is the cause, but the climate is definitely changing: http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/climate-weather/stories/polar-ice-caps-melting-faster-than-we-thought.
The climate changed before humans walked the earth, climate change is real, AGW is not.
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Can you trust any paper document / report these days? What if this hack job is fictitious? What if the documents were implanted to pretend a conspiracy?
The only way around this is to become a good observer, or preferably an independent scientist free from the profit motive and then analyze the pertinent data. I have done this and have reached my own conclusions which are not even equivocal. I encourage anyone who is able (as most would be surfing the internet) to become a scientist - which does not necessarily require a college education, rather learning critical thinking and careful observation and documentation, background research, hypothesis generation identifying major assumptions in framing the question, careful experimental design / practice / documentation with particular attention to minimizing sources of error and bias, data analysis and interpretation with probability assessment, peer review / transparency / conclusions / predictions based on results and conclusions
bump up LAWL
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