Forum Post: Climate Change Science References
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 4:34 a.m. EST by Shamus27
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The links below contain detailed science on climate change.
Hopefully the Environmental part of this movement can use this.
The earths biosphere belongs to all current and future global citizens and it should be illegal for polluters to continue to damage it.
What right does any corporation, or for that matter any of us, have to continue to damage the very biosphere that sustains life for us and future generations?
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/2005/
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/science/global-warming-human.html#2
http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar4/syr/ar4_syr.pdf
Woah, woah, woah. Conservatives can offer plenty of counter-examples of how global warming is not happening. No matter what you say they can offer a piece of evidence that suggest something else. Okay, so their evidence doesn't counter your evidence, but if we give them equal weight then there's only a 50-50 chance that this global warming thing is real. Is it worth risking our future economic prosperity over this? So every time the global temperatures have risen rapidly by more than a few degrees 90% of all species have died? I'm a gambling man! Let's flip that coin! Heads we kill 90% of all species. Tails we all (those of us not too lazy to get a job) make around 5-10% more money over the next 10 or 20 years. Totally worth it!
"Conservatives can offer plenty of counter-examples of how global warming is not happening"
Maybe they can but the examples are bogus in their entirety. Look at the temperature plots here:
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/
and now explain to this forum how the earth is not warming.
"but if we give them equal weight then there's only a 50-50 chance that this global warming thing is real."
This is sheer stupidity. So you say for each scientific presentation I present to you, you can come up with some counter-example bullshit story and since there is a 50% split we can assign equal likelihood to all proposals regardless of their relative strength.
Do yourself a favor and head to the nearest sanitorium.
Haha, you missed the satire, read to the end of the post and you'll understand my analysis ;-)
Some people are so stupid that I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't satire.
Ah, see, that's the idea. Get a member of the far right reading it and thinking "heck yeah" and then pull the rug out from under them in a moment of cognitive dissonance.
YES YOU ARE RIGHT!!!!!!!!!
Please excuse me my insulting comments.
I should delete that post. Or should I leave it up as a punishment! Let me know what you think.
How about just edit it to make yourself look better, I won't tell ;-)
Thanks meep1.
Just one thing. I can appreciate (now) your superior acting skills but in the future when you are employing sarcasm, could you please not do such a good job of impersonating a conservative climate denialist dumbbell.
Any consideration you may afford to this request would be greatly appreciated.
(......I really gotta watch myself in here)
Shamus27,
"The earths biosphere belongs to all current and future global citizens and it should be illegal for polluters to continue to damage it.
What right does any corporation, or for that matter any of us, have to continue to damage the very biosphere that sustains life for us and future generations? "
This is all true and extremely relevant to the OWS movement IMHO.
All I would say that the link to GISS data shows plots from 2005. Below is a more up to date link to the same page with 2011 temperature plots.
http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/
Thanks
Here is some interesting information on solutions to both the climate change issues and how to revive our "Sunsetting" fossil fuel economy that is well worth you time.
The first link is an audio interview:
http://thedianerehmshow.org/audio-player?nid=14767
http://www.foet.org/lectureevents.html
http://www.foet.org/lectureevents.html
http://www.amazon.com/Third-Industrial-Revolution-Lateral-Transforming/dp/0230115217%3FSubscriptionId%3D0EP44N4Z8Y93MBZ1ZC82%26tag%3Ddianerehm-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3D0230115217
I'll just give one link. No opinon just facts. THIS is where the "global warming" started, I mean "man made global warming", I mean "climate change", oh wait today it's "man made climate change"
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/index.shtml
okay, I apologize for not not providing alink, but do a search for "The Year Without a Summer" and you'll get an idea of what's really going on.
In Short, is the Earth warming? Yes it is, but not for the reason you think! Due to the volcanic explosion of Mount Tambora that year, possibly helped by an eruption of Huaynaputina a couple hundred years before that. We have been recovering from a mini ice age!
As evidence I offer you Greenland. Most people believe it was purposely mis-named to encourage people to settle there. Nope! For most of the last millenium it was actually quite green, The ice sheets were likely smaller than they are today and there was plenty of habitable, fertile land to be had, until the volcanos decided to start exploding.
Are we contributing to the warming with our pollution? Probably, but it's likely insignificant compared to the gargantuan quantities of smoke and ash mother earth is capable of thowing into the atmosphere herself!
And if we are having an effect, the planet's going to react the same way it always does, Time to turn up the A/C! We're not going to boil away, We're far more likely to freeze to death.
George Carlin got it right, "The Planet isn't going anywhere, We Are!"
Talk about LAZY reporting, the occupywallstreet list of demands doesn’t even mention "climate change", "CO2" or "greenhouse gasses". It does mention energy and conserving nature etc...................nice job boys!!!! This is proof of media fear mongering. Occupy does not endorse CO2 mitigation (taxes) because: How is it anti-capitalist to let bankers bankroll corporations to run carbon trading markets overseen by politicians to manage the temperature of the planet?
Pollution is real, death by CO2 is not.