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Forum Post: clear and articulated reasons to occupy wall street

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 7, 2011, 9:10 p.m. EST by mork (3)
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  1. banks are bailed out for gambling and cheating with trillions of dollars of citizens money. meanwhile these same banks are allowed to foreclose on honest, law-abiding homeowners who've paid on their mortgages religiously

  2. politicians are telling us that taking away our children's education will somehow help the american people prosper

  3. people who've invested in their higher education cannot find work and are in debt for trying to improve their lives

  4. Wars are being fought for corporate profit and the soldiers who sacrificed and risked their lives are being deserted by the government

  5. Billionaires pay no taxes and profit on dividends while the middle class bares the tax burden

  6. Justice today is only for those who can afford lawyers and bribe judges. for those who cannot afford lawyers, justice is impossible

  7. while the richest and the poorest can afford health care the middle class cannot

  8. Our military is made up largely of privatized mercenaries who fight not for freedom but for profit. the american citizen had no say in this decision

  9. the federal and state governments are fighting one another by going after small businessmen who are trying to earn a living by following state laws

  10. Our cities are run by drug-dealers because our government insists upon maintaining out-dated prohibition laws that place business in the hands of psychotic criminals

  11. Our politicians focus petty issues such as who is allowed to get married, who has the right to pray where, who has the right to admit their sexual preference and who is or is not allowed to hold a job

  12. while it costs $1500 simply to pay rent, big business wants to pay workers $600 a month to support their families

  13. add to the list lets make it clear what we're upset about

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[-] 1 points by mork (3) 13 years ago
  1. what do i think of liberals? i looked up the world liberal. it means to be free.
  2. am i a leftist? when I use a pencil - yes. when i wipe my ass - no.
  3. read a book? i got all the time in the world for that. funny how unemployment leaves time to read a lot
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[-] 1 points by mork (3) 13 years ago
  1. saying "this has nothing to do with wall street" is moot. kind of like saying we should demonstrate against the war in afghanistan by going to kabul... "okay, everyone who disagrees with this policy will go demonstrate over there.... if you disagree with this other then you go demonstrate over here...etc."
  2. yes, blackwater, its subsidiaries and others are indeed mercenary armies.
  3. a few of the wealthy are now speaking out and admitting that they dont pay taxes
  4. when i mention feds and state i am referring to feds and states fighting over petty marijuana laws.
  5. minimum wage will soon be a thing of the past if wall street and politicians have their ways
  6. trying to seperate our current state of government from wall street is like trying to seperate drug dealers from drug users or professional thieves from those who buy stolen goods; cant have one without the other
  7. criticizing grammar is just plain stupid
  8. 1% of a billion will not prevent a billionaire from being filthy rich, but a much lesser amount will prevent me from saving enough money to retire, or go to a doctor, or get new shoes for my children
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[-] 1 points by mork (3) 13 years ago
  1. hardcore addictive and lethal drugs are legal through doctor's prescriptions and are readily available on the street while harmless recreational drug possession can place one in prison with felony charges
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[-] 1 points by xJackx (9) 13 years ago
  1. The banks have since reimbursed the Federal Reserve, including interest.
  2. I agree, but it has nothing to do with Wall Street.
  3. I agree completely.
  4. Sorta/kinda.
  5. They pay taxes, their businesses pay taxes, and then they contribute more to write it off of taxes. Remember, even 1% of a billion is more than you'll pay at 25%.
  6. True, but has nothing to do with Wall Street.
  7. Also true, but again, has nothing to do with Wall Street.
  8. I'm a soldier, and this is BS. Mercenaries are illegal, and private security is few and far between.
  9. What the heck are you trying to say? Also, NOTHING to do with Wall Street.
  10. Nothing to do with Wall Street. Take it up with the DEA or the Senate.
  11. Excellent point, but has nothing to do with Wall Street.
  12. At minimum wage, a full-time employee will make over $1000 a month. And for a 1 bedroom in downtown West Palm Beach, I pay $640. Get your numbers straight.
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[-] 1 points by Mamie (1) 13 years ago
  1. If you are able to make $1000 it is probably because you've had your job a long time. Most jobs available are only offering part-time hours or are given to interns who work for FREE because they are so hungry to get their foot in the door (also, usually people who already have enough money to take 2 years off of work- clearly not the middle/ lower class). In a city $1,500 will get you a crappy one bedroom apartment in an unsavory neighborhood with high crime rate, horrible schools, and roaches. Yes, I am talking about my apartment.
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[-] 1 points by xJackx (9) 13 years ago

Move to beautiful West Palm Beach, just like Donald Trump. Palm Trees, manatees, and year-round beaches for less than you could make at McDonald's. And no, do the math. At 40 hrs a week at a McJob making approx $7.50 an hour, you make about 900 after taxes. That's the minimum at a crappy job. McDonald's doesn't have interns. Think about it.

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[-] 1 points by MyHeartSpits (448) 13 years ago

Wall St. is a symbolic focus, mostly. The issues we face are too big to be encompassed by one target.

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[-] 1 points by xJackx (9) 13 years ago

Funny, seems we should be occupying Washington instead. Although Washington can't fix the economy- it just happens to be over $9 trillion in debt to the American people. This entire movement seems to be the result of general dissatisfaction by people who want somebody to blame, and choose "Wall Street" as their target. As I pointed out above, this person clearly has no clue what they're talking about.

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[-] 1 points by xJackx (9) 13 years ago
  1. What I'm upset about is that you clearly don't even know what Wall Street is or what it does, much less why the NYSE business practices should be protested. Very disappointed. I hope that the rest of the movement isn't as under-educated as this "mork" person.
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[-] 1 points by Blueskies (49) 13 years ago

Give him a break. He's from Ork for heaven's sake!

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[-] 1 points by xJackx (9) 13 years ago

One wonders if he's just trolling for fun...

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[-] 1 points by leading (20) 13 years ago

We the mass do have a say, and it is at elections time. The weakest time for any politician is at campaigning. Why do you think Obama harden its position and speeches now? (he could had done it months ago at least)

If this movement pretends to go somewhere, it is about being heard at this time ELECTION TIME.

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[-] 1 points by AN0NYM0US (640) 13 years ago

It doesn't matter who you vote for, everyone, on all sides are guilty of these things. They are instantly bought out, before you even vote.

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[-] 1 points by leading (20) 13 years ago

That is, if they are candidates of the parties we are presented to choose from. I bet you that a movement as big as this one could become strong enough to start seen some changes.

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[-] 1 points by AN0NYM0US (640) 13 years ago

Hopefully. Actually the problem is we don't vote for the honest ones. We vote for the ones with the fancy commercials and smear campaigns. They have the money to make these commercials because they are bought out and corrupt

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[-] 1 points by leading (20) 13 years ago

I think we all agree we are looking for a peaceful change, and that implies a long road ahead.

Perhaps the significant difference now, is that the economic situation is really hurting many people nationwide, and people does provoke change when personally affected.

History demonstrates it again and again, independently of geography, culture or political system.

It won't happen if we keep ourselves at a distance, we must look for it actively.

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[-] 1 points by meanmckean (51) 13 years ago

Let me make my point a little more precise. It's amazing the originators of posts on this Occupy forum who apparently think their ideas are as ingenius as the Founding Fathers and other great minds of history and instantly lose credibiliity because they can't spell or use proper grammar in any language.

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[-] 1 points by leading (20) 13 years ago

I don't question your comment a bit, but every one's vote counts the same and every one has the same rights to aspire and live to the extent of his/her possibilities, not to be refrained by people taking advantage of the system.

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[-] 1 points by loutre (11) from Milton, MA 13 years ago

Agreed. I can't tell you how many people have been saying "it's a waist of time" when I question the points they are trying (and failing) to make.

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[-] 1 points by meanmckean (51) 13 years ago

A waist of time - thanks for adding the exclamation point (that's one of these: '!')

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[-] 1 points by meanmckean (51) 13 years ago

articulated. lol. if you say so.

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