Forum Post: Chomsky's Zionism
Posted 12 years ago on March 31, 2012, 3:03 p.m. EST by fiftyfourforty
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“I don’t regard myself as a critic of Israel, I regard myself as a supporter of Israel”…..
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/05/chomsky-and-zionism.html
Chomsky and Zionism by Philip Weiss on May 17, 2010 20
My money says that Noam Chomsky will get in to the West Bank within a day or two; {he was let in-5450} exiling him is killing the Israeli brand. Speaking from Amman, Chomsky has likened Israel to a Stalinist regime in its denying him entry, Amira Hass reports.
Yesterday I said that Noam Chomsky is a left Zionist. I asked Norman Finkelstein about his friend. "The accurate term is a CULTURAL Zionist, meaning he (like his father) was (and remains) committed to the revival of Hebrew culture in Palestine. Politically, before 1974 he supported a version of binationalism but after 1974 believed it was not politically feasible anymore and supported the international consensus for a 2-state settlement, although fully aware of its limitations."
Robert Barsky's superb bio of Chomsky fills the picture in somewhat. Barsky says that as a young man Chomsky was associated with Avukah and Hashomer Hatzair, leftwing Zionist movements that promoted Jewish emigration to Israel because of their concerns with anti-Semitism in the west. But Chomsky did not believe in a Jewish state. "The creation of such a state would necessitate carving up the territory and marginalizing, on the basis of religion, a significant portion of its poor and oppressed population, rather than uniting them on the basis of socialist principles," Barsky writes. By the 1970s, Chomsky endorsed "a gradual move towards binationalism."
"Binationalism" was the original slogan of Zionism. The group that young Chomsky adhered to on their kibbutz was Hashomer Hatzair. They were the last Zionist organization to drop this sham.
"Binationalism" of course meant that Jews had rights not as individuals, but as a nationality in Palestine, and given that Hashomer Hatzair actively recruited Jews to immigrate to Israel (Chomsky says he was considering doing just that) we can see it means "right" of entry and citizenship for all Jews from all over the world but no right of return for Palestinians who are from there. This is not anti Zionism, folks. It's Zionism.
My mother told me her name was on that wall in Isreal that has the names of people who died in WWII. I said, "We'll, you better write them a letter and tell them rumors of your death have been greatly exaggerated". She thought that was funny.
it doesnt matter what is he doing! or what he says. why is it you found it important? its bad manner to post some individual views and ideas from resources like blog.
bad manner?
What matters is Chomsky's present views - especially on BDS. The hagiographic biographies such as Barsky's merely obscure the issue.
Chomsky should not be tainted with every notion of Hashomer Hatzair - and vice versa.
As for what he means by "revival of Hebrew culture" in Palestine, we have no reason to think that he means anything else but that Palestinians should be turned into a wage-slave proletariat.
After all, as W. D. Rubinstein (The Left, the RIght and the Jews) said, all Jews today are middle-class so they need some sort of chump proletariat to do the work! All Chomsky's leftist affectations do not obscure that fact - but the Chumpskyites wallow in the typical learnedly-shallow thinking of this modern anarchist intellectual.
"As for what he means by "revival of Hebrew culture" in Palestine, we have no reason to think that he means anything else but that Palestinians should be turned into a wage-slave proletariat."
It seems more that what they now aim for and have for decades aimed for is expulsion of as many Palestinians as they can push out rather than exploitation of their labor. For that there are Africans, Vietnamese,...
Opposition to BDS spans an interesting spectrum from the chumpster on the "left" all the way to Michael Bloomberg who attacked BDS in even more hysterical terms than the chumpster did.
http://occupywallst.org/forum/the-odd-convergence-of-michael-bloomberg-and-noam-/
Your analysis here is very good 5440. I agree that Israel is now reaching towards the idea of expelling all the Palestinians once and for all. Of course, such an eventuality is going to lead to WW3, but with Chomsky playing Pontius Pilate by washing his hands of the affair.
Anarchism - embodied in Chomsky - continues to be a distraction and derailing of the Left. It is hardly surprising that Zionists continue to maintain their hold through such methods - and even via Israel-critics such as Chomsky.
One wonders what the Far Right in the West will do. It seems that in France and Britain all the Far Right are no longer anti-Semitic but pro-Israel (i.e. Marie Le Pen and Nick Griffin). Hence the stage is being set for the mass expulsion of Palestinians with Noam Chomsky chanting "isn't it awful, Israel's to blame etc. etc." while continuing to sabotage efforts at BDS.
Yours faithfully
Dumpthechump
"Hence the stage is being set for the mass expulsion of Palestinians with Noam Chomsky chanting "isn't it awful, Israel's to blame etc. etc." while contin"
Or more likely "Isnt it awful, It's not the Israeli's own doing."
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