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Forum Post: Can you have a revolution without any violence?

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 12:35 a.m. EST by danbigglesworth (1)
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I've heard a fair amount of comparisons w/ ows and the arab spring, how this could be an 'arab spring in the US'....It seems a large difference is that there isn't any violence in the US, or not to any extent similar to many other countries...People seemed resolved to meet state violence with non violence in any situation, believing that it is better for the/a cause that the media see 99%'ers as a non-violent crowd, following progressive thought in the vain of the civil rights movement etc...I would argue that the only real reason one doesn't use violence in a grassroots movement is only if they don't have too...meaning the unequal distribution of wealth, which seems to be the core argument, isn't so bad as to neccesitate taking that which people espouse they need or deserve. At this point its just us asking for it loudly and annoyingly. Of course there are fringe elements in the activism taking place, but to be the '99%' that fringe element needs to really lose that quality.

I'm just so sick of seeing people protest and gather only where they are allowed to. Occupying areas only where it is legal to practice freedom of speech. Only being in the way, but allowing business as usual. I've heard the saying (and seen it on t-shirts ubiquitously) that 'you can jail the resistors but you can't jail the resistance', is befitting to this situation: in the rest of the world 'its you can kill the resistors but you can't kill the resistance'.

These are just thoughts I have...I don't mean to denigrade any of the thousands on people in nyc's hard work or all over the world. It is amazing what is happening. Just looking further down the horizon I guess. Am curious of other peoples thoughts.

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 13 years ago

the British instated the manga-carta with out violence

[-] 1 points by michaelbravo (222) 13 years ago

HOPE Humans On Planet Earth...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QrDLwSgg24

[-] 1 points by mgiddin1 (1057) from Linthicum, MD 13 years ago

Free speech zones are an anathema - the first amendment is dead if people sheepishly stick to the sidewalks and the areas we're 'allowed' to express free speech.

I think that once hyperinflation from the Fed finally catches up with us in the coming months - you'll see plenty of violence, though I truly hope I'm wrong.

Food riots are on the way. The Euro is going to crash within the next couple of weeks, which will be the long-awaited catalyst for the global financial meltdown of this debt-based fiat currency ponzi scheme.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

Start the war against Injustice by starting our own banks to double the income of the Bottom 90% of Workers, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 1% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves, and thus doubling our income from Bank Profits which are 40% of all Corporate Profits; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

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Join

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because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org in support of the above bank-focused platform.

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Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet, a political opportunist; what's important is the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing Power & Group Investment Power. In this, sequence is key, and if the correct mathematical sequence is followed then it results in doubling the income of the Bottom 90% of Workers from today's Bank Profits, which are 40% of all Corporate Profits.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 1% Management System of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupations & Generations.

So please JOIN the 2nd link, and spread the word to as many as possible, so we can make 100,000 support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.

[-] 1 points by danbigglesworth (1) 13 years ago

someone is good at cut and paste