Forum Post: Can OWS be more than a protest movement that most people are inclined to ignore?
Posted 12 years ago on Jan. 12, 2012, 12:28 p.m. EST by wheeeliechacha
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this is not a troll, but it seems like the focus of the OWS movement is protest without a clear goal in mind. Mainstream media and common perception of OWS participants is a that you are mostly hippies, partiers and bums, with a small mix of intelligent, but impotent, individuals, making the whole movement rather pointless. How does the obvious power of a group like OWS get translated into an effective tool for real change?
It doesn't.
OWS is a 'social movement' that is presently ignoring our democratic republic.
I'm trying to start a "Money Bloom" trend with the Green Party (or keep it going), perhaps if Occupy helped out it could show a sample of their potential:
http://freeindependentsun.com/republic/green-party-of-california-anniversary-money-bloom-february-4th-2012/
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ok, that was kinda funny. But all I've seen you posting here is negative stuff. Maybe I missed it. Can you say one nice thing about OWS?
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I agree, some parts are pretty entertaining! There's some real nutters out here that really make me laugh. But there's also alot of good serious discussion about important issues.
Do you have any interest in ending government corruption?
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Well, I'm not sure they all need to go exactly. Both parties have certainly behaved badly, we agree about that. The Fed and Wall Street certainly are part of the problem. Tax policy and loopholes that allow corporations to offshore profits to evade taxes is estimated to cost $100 billion/year. Wealth extraction is a problem. How do you mean this was completed in 2006?
But I think by ending government corruption, getting money out of the political system, these things can be fixed.
I view Occupy as a tool for social awareness. To that extent I think it has been somewhat successful. I don't agree with many of Occupy's tactics or principles.
If you view it as something else, depending on what you think it is or should be doing, perhaps that is why you see at as futile?
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you just sit back and watch how this whole thing snowballs during spring and summer.
I'm certain the President's strategy of silence surrounding the prosecution of wall street fraud will prove eminently successful -
at further provoking the public, encouraging engagement that might otherwise be lackluster if the admin acted - if the admin were to act it would reinforce the perception that we [the public] don't need to get involved because the right things are getting done - the right things are not getting done, our participation is required to get them done - and that message will be heard loud and clear by the public
at identification of those District Attorneys who have the evidentiary necessities for prosecution yet resist - laying bare networks of nitwits engaged in corruption
another diseased version of michael moore has spoken.....your just another twit dripping disease down your fat mottled cottage cheese thighs moaning woe is me....your parents are done paying for your laptops, cars, phones, education, clothes, vacations, while your gonorrhea is out of control because you fucked that crack head at zucotti park and the rubbers you demanded were not provided by the free health care you we're getting and now it's time to figure it out on your very own huh? pretty close aren't I? And this is the best you got parroting liberal/anarchist group think propaganda that isn't so....
winningtigertroll
here
bwa hahaha
you loser
yep...poor zendoggy.....is that your only comeback....winningtigertroll mocks this website as you faggots parrot troll this troll that, obviously having borrowed heavily from charlie sheen's meltdown because any true intellctual discourse would require independent thought and a thorough review of facts such as which party keeps getting busted the most as provided by me.....example:
Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY): Rangel, the man in charge of writing tax policy for the entire country, has yet to adequately explain how he could possibly 'forget' to pay taxes on $75,000 in rental income he earned from his off-shore rental property. He also faces allegations that he improperly used his influence to maintain ownership of highly coveted rent-controlled apartments in Harlem, and misused his congressional office to fundraise for his private Rangel Center by preserving a tax loophole for an oil drilling company in exchange for funding. On top of all that, Rangel recently amended his financial disclosure reports, which doubled his reported wealth. (He somehow 'forgot' about $1 million in assets.) And what did he do when the House Ethics Committee started looking into all of this? He apparently resorted to making 'campaign contributions' to dig his way out of trouble. According to WCBS TV, a New York CBS affiliate: 'The reigning member of Congress' top tax committee is apparently 'wrangling' other politicos to get him out of his own financial and tax troubles...Since ethics probes began last year the 79-year-old congressman has given campaign donations to 119 members of Congress, including three of the five Democrats on the House Ethics Committee who are charged with investigating him.' Charlie Rangel should not be allowed to remain in Congress, let alone serve as Chairman of the powerful House Ways and Means Committee, and he knows it. That's why he felt the need to disburse campaign contributions to Ethics Committee members and other congressional colleagues.
nice texty-wall-rant
what's it say, anywayz . . . .
thanks....i'm tired of ranting...can't we all just get along? you need to trot rodney king out at the next rally....nah....
seriously, corruption is epidemic no doubt.... as you name 1 rep. I can name 2 dems....it fucking pisses me off and it is a shame ows never found true traction as it was exposed due to a lack of credibility that mirrors the lack credibility of wall street and washington....a movement that changes things so it gets better for the most people possible is needed but ows is not it.....I think e can agree we want the best for as many as possible....but creating a vacuum thru destroying the various fiefdoms that inhabit the corporate and political world is not the answer.....as voters we demand accountability and the mess will sort itself out.....if you are involved!
guess again . . .
Sanders Proposed Constitutional Amendment:
Sanders Petition here:
Rep. Deutch's amendment discussed here:
and you can read repelican reaction here.
The opposition:
It says the following:
"Hi, I'm a loser and I just did a copy and paste job probably from Judicial Watch and I'm so cool that I spend my entire day up here bashing OWS and when I'm done with this I will beat the hell out of my wife while I wait for my check from the Koch heads."
gf...your wrong about the wife thing...it's common law!!!! get it right!!!!! and why would you deny my check....aren't you for people getting something for nothing!
I would lol, but its probably true . . .
Think we can get some relief from abuse for his wife?
wife beaters
they need their legs broke.
now i'm a wife beater....not very original....gf and zendoggedydog you are simply not up to the debate at hand....for one thing the whole liberal ideology is false and it invites a soft tyranny much worse than corporatism will ever be and free market capitalism has been on trial here on this shit pile of a website wrongly associated with corporatism..hmm typical liberal mischaracterization..OWS has had a complete overstep so far to the left that doesn't doesn't paint the real culprits....both progressive republican and democrat fiefdoms having played politics and crony capitalism for too long....we have all suffered including the rich by 1000's of power grabs that have stifled the hopes of all....that we all have a fair but not PROMISED shot ( if your not willing to bust your ass fuck you) at a dream to become what ever we dream that is good while taking care of our families, and contributing to our communities......the way too this promised land comes from unabashed freedom, free markets, simple laws that make sense and are enforced....crony good old boy networks liberal or conservative intertwined with each other can be stopped cold with service caps in both houses and in all state governorships and state legislatures....it is so fucking simple that you dumb ass liberal intellectual elitist can't see the forest for the trees...your not worthy of the debate because you all are to fucking stupid!