Forum Post: Brilliant Idea!
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 18, 2011, 11:49 p.m. EST by guitarmywin
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Our constitution was hijacked. I think we should hijack back in systematic fashion. This funny business could use with a little homeopathic treatment. It hides behind the entity for protection but claims the rights of a person. I think we should start there; systematically chipping away at these ' rights'. It is a clear abuse of original intent. First define what a person is and then reclaim our territory. Get some legislation written that could offer a speed track to passage if it is a clear violation of original intent. Create a passage of protections for the citizens and create an emergency government.
Consumable wealth for living expenditures must be limited. The richest person can consume only 20 times the poorest. Wealth which is spend for consumption should be redistributed. Bill Gates, Obama can only consume 20X when a janitor consumes 2X, safety net is 1X which is enough for shelter, food, health, education. If you want more than that, want a car, and travelling, you should be working to earn more than 1X, anybody who can work should get at least 2X which can lead to home ownership if spend wisely. Safety net, 1X, should allow people to grow intellectually so they can still give back to society however they like. Everybody owes to society all the time. Personal consumption can not go over 20X, because if you build a mansion, you rule, and we are no longer equal politically. Your wealth and economic power will give you connections and political power. Society invests in social, economic, politic infrastructure, create more social and humane contract for society. Bill Gates can spend 20X a year, and can have as much investment money as possible. Nobody can have a chunk of this world, the world is holly and precious. The most productive, talented and hard worker can earn 20X max, when a burger guy earns 2X, and unfortunate can have safety net of X. People do science and contribute to society based on love for humanity, justice, truth, knowledge. The system is same because Bill Gates can have unlimited resources but can only consume 20X, so his home is maximum 20 times larger than a burger guy's home. We owe our lives to every living creature who existed, suffered through time through existence, we owe ourselves to other human being who creates the gene pool, the society and the possibility of existence of us. We owe our lives to all other people around the world. We can not become kings and queens through corrupt organizations such as states. States are for to level the field, to bring justice and equality. State can not become center of power. It will be corrupted. One simple legislation can bring you this new world which will transform your lives and the world. Economic system will be more productive. What do you say?
Well said and brilliant and to the point conceptually. I really love the fact that you put it into a formula because in this way we can create a clear pathway for equitable distribution. I also love the fact that the priorities you outlined are well placed and recognize government's role in proper perspective. Thank you for your comment. How could we frame that in a piece of legislation?
I don't owe you squat.
See http://occupywallst.org/forum/get-our-government-back-no-ammendment-or-article-v/
Thank you that is very informative. I have to figure out a way save all these links so I can reference them when needed (and we are going to need them). Do you have any tips?
Not sure what you mean. You can simply cut and paste them.
Sanders Proposed Constitutional Amendment:
Sanders Petition here:
Rep. Deutch's amendment discussed here:
and you can read repelican reaction here.
Article 5 Convention NOW!
The only real solution to keep government in the hands of the people and never letting the government get this out of control again is Article 5.
An Article 5 Convention with the "Greater Meaning of Free Speech" (GMFS) is the best way to ensure that the people are always in charge of their own lives, that the size of federal and state government stays proportionate to the population, and the GMFS will ensure that there can never again be the broad interpretation that purposely allowed for the loopholes of language that politicians have used against us for their own gain of power. An Article 5 Convention is our only hope of taking back our freedom and ensuring transparency of government.
http://articlevconvention.org/showthread.php?10-Templates-Letter-to-State-Representatives-request-for-house-resolution Article 5 is our first and last constitutional right. If we don't use it now, we will not have any rights. Freedom is not free. Unity is cheap compared to the demise of the nwo default with confused sheep, not free.
Educate yourselves about article V.
Lessig power point on article V http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gpbfY-atMk
Lots of facts here about Article V. Lawsuit filed against all members of congress, video. http://algoxy.com/poly/article_v_convention.html
Article V conference, Lawrence Lessig at harvard 9/25/11-other attendee video comments http://vimeo.com/31464745 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-7ikbvu0Y8
I sure do like the idea of a convention but the amendment you proposed below is just the same shit we have now. This would give the president full veto power. Am I missing something here?????
"Second, the amendment shall grant the President the authority to disapprove any item or items in any bill presented by the Congress to the President in addition to the President's authority to disapprove entire bills pursuant to Article I, Section 7 of the United States Constitution."
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Thank you I will educate myself on the matter. What do you think is the most important thing to do now?
199 days from now is the National General Assembly. Everyone should be discussing the ramifications of the Declaration, as Van Halen said, RIght Now!
Read the Suffolk Resolves too, the 99D is modeled on it.
http://www.the99declaration.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suffolk_Resolves
Thanks for the info! Will you be there?
With my two kids and wearing my late grandmothers 1922 S Philadelphia HS ring. Shall I bring the Tom Petty guitar? lol
Well since you asked; Yes. When Liberty park was free and lively, I was down there rustling up a Guitar Army; guitarmy. Learn Willie Nile's One Guitar, we will make it happen.....
You are absolutely right, the us constitution is the key to our freedom and human rights. do things that are rights granted to us by the constitution and when they arrest us- *oint to the constitution.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EewGMBOB4Gg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w