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Forum Post: Bottom Line: No Here has Anyone to Vote For

Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 29, 2011, 9:51 p.m. EST by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL
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That means ALL of you!!

You are all being played.

You all suck, pretty much. Are a disgrace to democracy.

You have no business voting, seems how you refuse to vote for anything besides corruption.

Now go back to your partisan TV station and enjoy.

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[-] 1 points by LSN45 (535) 12 years ago

Wake up America!!! Are you tired of having to pick the "lesser of two evils" at the ballot box? It has been this way for way too long. Is the current lineup of candidates the best this country can come up with? The reason we get candidates like this is because in order to compete you have to sell your soul to the corporations and special interest by accepting their campaign donations. Here's my 2 cents:

There are a lot of improvements that need to be made. The list reforms Americans want to see is long and varied depending on who you talk to. That said, I believe there is one reform that would provide the American people the best chances of seeing other meaningful reforms actually happen - that is REAL, loop-hope free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM! I have seen others on this site calling this the "fulcrum" or pivotal issue. Right now the current legalized bribery, pay-to-play system of campaign donations and paid lobbyists has disenfranchised the American voter. Until this is fixed, any other reform the politicians may try to placate us with (be it a change to healthcare, clamping down predatory school loans, new financial regulations, etc.) will be about as effective as a farmer putting a new roof on his CHICKEN COOP, but still letting the FOX guard it.

We need to go back to the original political currency. Instead of the current system of who can collect the most money from corporations and special interests it should be who has the BEST IDEAS to EFFECTIVELY RUN THE COUNTRY (we don't need "Wealth Redistribution," what we need is "Political Influence Redistribution")!

For the sake of our children and future generations of Americans, we need to take back our democracy from the rich and powerful who are using their vast sums of money to "speak" as if they represent millions of Americans. This "Corporate Personhood" that has crept into our laws is allowing them to manipulating our policies in their favor at the expense of the average American (the recent "Citizens United" Supreme Court ruling is a miscarriage of justice and must be reversed. The $50 or $100 a normal American may give to a political campaign becomes meaningless when corporations or other special interests are handing our millions to buy political access to the decision making process.

For decades now the corporations and special interests have had our "representatives" bought and paid for (both on the right and the left). Concentrating our efforts on getting the money out of our politics is the best way we can create an environment in which further reforms can be realized. Until we end the current system of legalized bribery (campaign donations) and paid lobbying our politicians will continue to be the LAP DOGS of the corporations and special interests. What we need first and foremost is real, loop-hole free CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!!! If the corruption is not dealt with first, the chance of any other meaningful reforms becoming a reality is almost zero - the special interests will just use their money to buy votes and put forward bills that create loop-holes or otherwise twist the law in their favor. If we want our children to live in a country where there vote matters, we need to get the money out of our politics, otherwise they will increasingly become the 21st century version of the "landless peasant." Spread the word - End the LEGALIZED BRIBERY!!! CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM needs to be THE main goal of the protests!!!

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Thank you!

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Democracy is the easiest thing in the world to particiapte in.

Get together, find someone who you all can agree with, and run him.

Done. Its really that simple. But no one does it. Therefore, when the few times its done, it doesnt work. Its looked at as weird.

Its not. Its common fuckin sense.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

I vote for Madame Guillotine or a woman named Justice. Has either come into the race yet?

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

They want to, by about 5% of the nation, but the other 95% have their heads up their asses..

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Thank you. They will vote for either in the end, because both stand for the same things.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Watching people talk politics these days makes me want to vomit. In real life, people get fucked over once, maybe twice, but with their gov they seem to like it.

The TV is some powerful shit man...

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 12 years ago

Television will only protect them until the reality of consequence strikes their homes, children or themselves. justice operates in strange ways.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

La-di-da....Dems this....Reps that.....

I hope someone magically appears for me, and saves me!

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

R/D Big Money Parties gets votes for 100+ YEARS!

I wonder what the fuck went wrong?

[-] 1 points by ARod1993 (2420) 12 years ago

Our political process is far from perfect, but that means that we as a country need to be doing more, not less. If neither party works for us on a national scale, then that means that we aren't making our voices heard enough. Get involved in the local chapter of the party that dominates your locality, and put your name behind at least one interest group with whom you agree 95+ percent of the time. At the end of the day, power resides within the system whether we like it or not. If we want to step up and claim that power, then the only real way to do so is to take up a place within that system that gives us access to it.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Well, who really wants to challenge this one? Who hear thinks they have someone honest to vote for?

Anyone?

[-] 1 points by gsw (3420) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 12 years ago

Rocky Anderson seems honest, if he can get the signatures to be on California election ballot by Jan. 2

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

There is always write in. Dont buy the "wasted vote" shit. Anyone who wants to vote for corruption is wasting their vote.

Just because 40% of the population refuses to NOT vote for corruption doesnt mean me and you have to.

Keep up the good fight man.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

Elizabeth Warren

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

I have to say she is pretty decent, but if she runs with a party, party rule overides all.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 12 years ago

she IS running - for Scott Brown's seat

[-] 0 points by newearthorder (295) 12 years ago

I could never vote for a republican. Dennis Kucinich will never run and win,..George Carlin is dead. Maybe Bernie Sanders.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 12 years ago

Dont listen to the "wasted vote" nonsense. Just because someone wont win doesnt mean you cant vote for them.

When everyone else has their heads up their asses, its easy for them to tell you "wasted vote".

Well how the hell is voting for someone you know is going to screw you, NOT wasting your vote?

[-] 0 points by newearthorder (295) 12 years ago

agreed