Forum Post: Black, Foamy Water Worries Fracking Neighbors
Posted 12 years ago on Dec. 25, 2011, 8:23 p.m. EST by GirlFriday
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Then one night McIntyre got sick. She had a bad headache and vomited. When her husband Fred went for a glass of water and turned on the spigot, it spewed out smelly foam. “He hollers back, I think I know why we’re sick," she remembers. "There’s something wrong with our water.”
The McIntyres stopped drinking the well water. Neighbor Kim McEvoy says her water turned black and she got sick too. “My fingernails were growing downward. My hair was falling out. I’d get dizzy.”
Mmmm..........mmmmm............good.
Whether we've hit peak oil or not, the fact of the matter is that usable fossil fuels are getting a lot harder to find and a lot messier and more obnoxious to extract, and there's no evidence out there that this trend is going to reverse itself. Sure, we may not run out in the next ten years, but more and more we seem to be trying to force the last of the dregs out of the glass at an ever-increasing cost. The tar sands are a mess and fracking is creating one drinking water debacle after another; we're doing potentially permanent damage to the environment and the people in it and merely buying time in return.
This pretty much means that we should have been pushing development of alternative energy sources (thorium-based nuclear reactors, solar, wind, geothermal, tidal power, hydroelectric dams, etc.) hard thirty years ago when we had to deal with the oil embargo in the 1970s. We're going to need to transition off of fossil fuels as soon as possible even if there's a high cost to doing so; our options are doing so in an orderly and voluntary manner or being left high, dry, and screwed when the stuff runs out on its own (or takes more than a barrel's worth of energy to pump out and refine a barrel). We're going to have a lot of catching up to do because of how late we started, but it should still be possible.
Yes.
And the destruction of the Nigerian Delta coupled with the public state sponsored execution of those who stood in opposition should stand as a stark warning to everyone.
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yep, fracking involves pumping chemically treated water into the ground to force out natural gas
it will effect the ground water system
If I had a well and my lands water was poisoned by a company 'fracking' the ground to steal the nat gas. I would, without a doubt, target as many of the workers at that company as I could. It would literally be a war to take me down. How is it that there are not any americans with balls willing to defend their families?? OH, I GET IT, they are waiting for the great fiat pay out via lawsuits. I see now
That response to an adversary and adversity is not advantageous for our nation. It is feudal, free forming and flawed. It may make your balls tingle, but it is not wise for war when words and laws could suffice.
What would be advantageous to our nation would be building LFTR's and getting us off mined fossil fuels 100%. We are a nation of greedy idiots at the highest of levels. Had Obama announced a real energy policy we would be WELL on our way to energy independence, but he is in the pocket of big oil, big nat gas. At some point, SOMEONE has to stand up for what is right.
The oil conglomerates wrote the laws.
They also bought the judges.
Good luck with that case.
So what is stopping us from writing laws of our own, maybe even get a lawyer to sue the shit out of them first with RICO, this idea is not mine but I like it, then tax what's left of their empires to begin repairing the damage. But, acting hostile is primitive and lacks discipline. Shit, you'd probably do more damage if you quit your job and held a pizza box in down town where ever.
We don't own ALEC.
We can't buy judges.
Good luck finding a lawyer with balls to bring a RICO case to trial.
the lawsuit won't do much good while your family is dying all around you of cancer.
Do you stick around and try to care for them?
it would simply be ON if my family or myself had cancer or some other nonsensical disease caused directly by polluted water from fracking. I was thinking more along the lines of if they fracked, then the water was black or contaminated (lit on fire, etc).
I agree completely.
I keep thinking that if you catch it in time, you can always adjust, and let the court system work toward compensation for the value of the property, the inconvenience involved, and the added expense.
But if you don't, and people around you start getting deathly ill . . . .
There are people actively fighting this.
And then there is this:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2011/12/23/u-s-offers-35-million-for-fracking-pollution-solutions/
as they must
Agreed.
Haven't dared pull up the link to the article you posted - I'm afraid I'll start pulling my hair out in huge clumps.
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I just can't imagine . . .
It is the same shit.
reminds me of the definition of insanity -
yeah, it is the knowing, willing ignorance that irritates me.
combined with the consequences
there is no excuse
None.
At.
All.
been a lot of that going around
yeah, quite a bit.
well fuck the trolls
we'll keep at it.
and keep on keepin on
The black water, with the greenish tint, comes from your semi-annual, regardless if it needs it or not, douching of that grand canyon of disease, maggots and bubonic plague, you call a twat. We can't even discuss the resulting environmental hazards from when you gargle that Koch holster of a mouth you breath through.
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I wanna frack somebody real goodly
This is more serious than you may know. If this isn't stopped, especially in that area, the Marcellus shale could increase the supply of natural gas to the second largest deposits on earth! It could provide almost unlimited power and come close to making the US energy independent! I don't have to tell you what that would do to our plans for alternative energy especially after the recent unfortunate failures of government backed green initiatives.
Luckily, our friends in the media are doing a superb job of promulgating the idea that fracking is dangerous and shouldn't ever be used again but our enemies who support an actual economic recovery have dangerous data available about the 60 year history of the use of fracking without the problems we believe could possibly happen.
It's imperative these types of sob stories fill the media to make sure public opinion is turned against this devastating assault on our vision of a world without fossil fuel use.
you can't drink natural gas
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeffmcmahon/2011/12/23/u-s-offers-35-million-for-fracking-pollution-solutions/
This is exactly why we need to strengthen property rights.
who is going to benefit from that? The guy with five or ten acres?
Or the company with a thousand acres, and 1,200 employees?
Anyone with property, even if their only property is their body.
I think my point was we need to do much more than simply strengthen property rights -
although the issue of property rights may play well among repelicans who will no doubt think, at a policy making level, that such measures will indeed help cement the power and control of large companies.
If I may be so presumptuous as to suggest if one had an alloidal title to his real one acre and a properly functioning republic where states had the final say in such matters, it would be a matter of the people voting IF anyone could drill under their property and I don't care how far under it, especially IF they are going to pump pressurized diesel fuel in the hole to fracture mother earth.
In any event, nobody could get away with that unless property owners let them, ether paid for the easement or simply didn't care.
So you see, it wouldn't really matter so much if the guy in the whitehouse was for it, it would be a state decision by and for it's people.
However, it is a shame that so few are educated as to other viable and earth preserving energy alternatives available. This is one area of which I disagree with Ron PauI and will make an effort to enlighten him and his crew, ASAP.