Forum Post: Best Of
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 14, 2011, 9:19 p.m. EST by Demwit
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I vote for Anonymous1776 as the best poster on this board. His/Her comments are well thought out and without emotion; aka: logical. I see the major differences here resulting from what this country was founded on (limited government, liberty, personal responsibility, equal opportunity for all) and those disgruntled by what they perceive the world "should" be (it doesn't work that way in the real world, the deck is stacked against me, the man is holding me down, I want something for nothing, reparations, etc.). If we want to talk about what is best for the greater good, how about everyone learning about the founding of this country and the blessings bestowed upon it? The Founding Fathers didn't risk their lives to guarantee everyone healthcare, a college education, a job, or anything other than leaving it up to the individual to determine their own path through life.
Remember this:
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
Anyone know the originating document?
Say what you want about the responsibility to throw off such Government. I agree with you. However, you are apparently not in the majority. Just because you want it doesn't make it so. Grow up!
Yet they created a document that would be for the betterment of all? How could they be for such individualism as you protest, while at the same time creating one united nation for the good of all. I think the Constitution is proof that these men believed a nation where people would be looked after while also having the liberty to do their own thing is possible and good. It is by a moral imperative that the fortunate look after the less so. Why would God bestow unalienable righteous rights on a people or nation who did not look after its sick, its downtrodden, and its poor?
Keep posting, thank you very much.
http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/94223
But what kind of equality - thats the problem with a document so old. There is nobody around to say what exactly they meant by it. Even if there were - why would we stick with something that out of date? Why not modify it as we grow as a country?
You can read the federalist papers and find out what they were thinking.
Its not that I dont respect the document but we need to ask what works today regardless of the best intentions of the founding fathers..."in order to create a more perfect union"...not a perfect union....even the founding fathers left space to grow. Progress is inevitable.
We must have a basis that we stand upon or we stand for nothing at all. I believe the meaning of "a more perfect union" is their deference to God as He would only be capable of that which is "perfect". Don't get turned off by the inclusion of God as religious freedom was one of the primary reasons for seeking independence. I agree, and believe the founding fathers would agree, with your statement concerning growth. Hence the mechanisms they laid out in structuring our government. A perfect example of space to grow is the 18th Amendment to the Constitution. Intoxicating liquors were determined to be bad for society and subsequently outlawed via the mechanisms put in place by the founding fathers. A perfect example of having a basis to stand and not change our entire country for what "works today" is the 21st Amendment ot the Constitution: the repeal of the 18th Amendment.
Were the guys perfect and all seeing? No. Can we as a society benefit from their wisdom some 200+ years later? Yes!
The genius of the founding fathers may not be apparent in every aspect of modern daily life. However, that is part of the genius. Their vision is still valid today. Stop for a minute and evaluate the role and impact of our government, the structure of power, and the checks and balances, as intended, to the current implementation. Does a day go by where government is not overly in your life? Is TMZ or the government on TV more? TMZ has a weekday syndicated show. You would think it would be them. Instead, we have an overbearing government that is inserting itself into our lives "for our own good" which I believe is really the perpetuation of the bureaucracy. They understand how little they really mean to us but are scared to death we may wake up and realize we don't need them to the extent it has become. Who is more insecure, Hollywood or Washington DC?
Harrumph!