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Forum Post: Are the poor getting poorer?

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 1, 2011, 9:40 p.m. EST by figero (661)
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[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

Yes. They are. Both in terms of income and bottom line wealth.

MIAMI (CBSMiami.com) – Florida is touting the new jobs it created Friday after a positive unemployment report. But based on numbers from all W-2’s filed in the country, the wages simply aren’t keeping up.

According to the Social Security Administration, 50 percent of U.S. workers made less than $26,364 in 2010. In addition, those making less than $200,000, or 99 percent of Americans, saw their earnings fall by $4.5 billion collectively.

The sobering numbers were a far cry from what was going on for the richest one percent of Americans.

The incomes of the top one percent of the wage scale in the U.S. rose in 2010; and their collective wage earnings jumped by $120 billion.

In addition, those earning at least $1 million a year in wages, which is roughly 93,000 Americans, reported payroll income jumped 22 percent from 2009.

Overall, the economy has shed 5.2 million jobs since the start of the Great Recession in 2007. It’s the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression in the 1930’s.

Another word about the first Great Depression. It really was a perfect storm. Caused almost entirely by greed. First, there was unprecedented economic growth. There was a massive building spree. There was a growing sense of optimism and materialism. There was a growing obsession for celebrities. The American people became spoiled, foolish, naive, brainwashed, and love-sick. They were bombarded with ads for one product or service after another. Encouraged to spend all of their money as if it were going out of style. Obscene profits were hoarded at the top. All of this represented a MASSIVE transfer of wealth from poor to rich. Executives, entrepreneurs, developers, celebrities, and share holders. By 1929, America's wealthiest 1 percent had accumulated around 40% of all United States wealth. The upper class held around 30%. The middle and lower classes were left to share the rest. When the majority finally ran low on money to spend, profits declined and the stock market crashed. Of course, the rich threw a fit and started cutting jobs. They would stop at nothing to maintain their disgusting profit margins and ill-gotten obscene levels of wealth as long as possible. The small business owners did what they felt necessary to survive. They cut more jobs. The losses were felt primarily by the little guy. This created a domino effect. The middle class shrunk drastically and the lower class expanded. With less wealth in reserve and active circulation, banks failed by the hundreds. More jobs were cut. Unemployment reached 25% in 1933. The worst year of the Great Depression. Those who were employed had to settle for much lower wages. Millions went cold and hungry. The recovery involved a massive infusion of new currency, a World War, and higher taxes on the rich. With so many men in the service, so many women on the production line, and those higher taxes to help pay for it, the lions share of United States wealth was gradually transfered back to the middle class. This redistribution of wealth continued until the mid seventies. This was the recovery. A massive redistribution of wealth. 

Then it began to concentrate all over again. Here we are 35 years later. The richest one percent now own well over 40 percent of all US wealth. The lower 90 percent own less than 10 percent of all US wealth. This is true even after taxes, welfare, financial aid, and charity. It is the underlying cause.   No redistribution. No recovery.

The government won't step in and do what's necessary. Not this time. It's up to us. Support small business more and big business less. Support the little guy more and the big guy less. It's tricky but not impossible.

No redistribution. No recovery.

[-] 0 points by figero (661) 13 years ago

obviously you didn't watch the video

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

No I didn't but if it indicates otherwise, it's a trick. I've been on this issue for over 6 years. The rich are in fact getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.

[-] 0 points by figero (661) 13 years ago

wow - close minded are we ? 4 minutes of your time to get a different perspective.

[-] 1 points by ModestCapitalist (2342) 13 years ago

Not closed minded at all. But you're asking me to believe that the Earth is flat. It's not. The Earth is round, the rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer.

[-] 1 points by gestopomilly (497) 13 years ago

is that a rhetorical question? the answer is self evident. or maybe its not the poor getting poorer,, its the middle class becoming poor. this wouldnt be happening if it didnt effect people like teachers and nurses and electricians

[-] 0 points by figero (661) 13 years ago

It's not self evident if you watch the link.

[-] 1 points by gestopomilly (497) 13 years ago

no sorry , i did not watch the link. does it say otherwise?

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[-] 0 points by mynameisfred (115) 13 years ago

The poor have gotten poorer for over 50 years. Beginning with the first failed liberal program started as the Great Society. Every year for 50 years you keep voting for more rich democrats that look you in the eye and tell you how much they love you, then turn away, get in their limo and drive back to the mansion paid for with stocks. These rich liberal democrats are praised by you, you love them and they love you as long as you vote to keep them rich. The failed liberal agenda is making you poor and the rich richer (rich democrats) You get what you vote for. If you are idiot enough to vote for rich democrats,,,,,, GO FOR IT. Dont blame me for your mistakes in life.