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Forum Post: ANOTHER U.S. Army veteran in intensive care after being hit with police nightsticks during Occupy Oakland clash

Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 4, 2011, 10:56 p.m. EST by jk1234 (257)
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[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 13 years ago

We have our right to peaceably assemble. But that does mean peaceful. When we insist on doing something that breaks another persons rights, its not peaceful assembly anymore. Like for example, if we block a road and it keeps other people from using it. Then we are violating their rights and the police can take back their rights for them. If we take a park and keep the kids from playing in it on the swings, then we are violating their rights and the police can take back their rights that we took. when we blockade a port and close it and keep people from earning their paycheck, we are stealing their rights and the state can come in and take back their rights for them that we took. Im all for doing this, Im in a local camp, but don't spout hyperbole and that the state is violating our rights. they are not. They are taking back rights for other people that we took with our occupation. Just to be clear. peaceful assembly does not equal forceful occupation. We are forcefully occupying. so far the cities are being really good about working with us so we can get the message out by occupying. But its real fine line we are walking, and when one too many citizens gets pissed they can't use their park that we took, or they can't drive down a road to visit their mom in the hospital, we're going to have to understand that we started this. Lets be clear, we are breaking the law. Not that we should stop, but we should stop whining about people wont let us break the law. And just do it, just occupy, knowing that we are. Be prepared to get hurt when we break the law. Don't rationalize the occupation as lawful. Its not.

[-] 0 points by Joeschmoe1000 (270) 13 years ago

Right on! Except the last sentence. Which is kinda self indulgent..

[-] 1 points by ramous (765) from Wabash, IN 13 years ago

I took it out because you're right.

[-] 0 points by Joeschmoe1000 (270) 13 years ago

Right on!