Forum Post: Animal Farm - By George Orwell
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 4, 2011, 8:21 p.m. EST by figero
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0204824/http://www.online-
Or - if you are literate
So its a cautionary tale against communism. What's your point?
Written by a socialist. :)
Are you sure the 1% are not the same as the pigs in that story? :)
I'm sure they are. :o)
ah - really? how do you know that?
He said so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPgIqDWBLDQ
and you know that is Orwell how?
Orwell was a socialist.
so you are promoting a classless society. How is that supposed to work ?
No, I'm not, I'm a liberal. As in Teddy, FDR, Eisenhower, Kennedy, etc. I think society can take care of its most vulnerable and have a prospering competitive marketplace that rewards invention and hard work. In fact, that's what we had during the liberal consensus of the 40s-70s. It was the biggest increase in the standard of living for a people in Earth's history - and one of the most equal (but not fully equal, and not intended to be) societies ever, as well. True prosperity.
Of course, all of us liberals are called socialists now, so fuck it.
Check this out: http://www.brianrogel.com/the-100-percent-solution-for-the-99-percent
I think calling a couple of those guys liberals may be stretching a bit. Democrat doesn't mean liberal, especially in the historical sense. There are liberal Democrats and socialist Democrats. Hell there are even a few conservative democrats, a few were even POTUS.
"Democrat doesn't mean liberal, especially in the historical sense" Nor Republican conservative (Ike), which is exactly my point.
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_liberalism_in_the_United_States
Kennedy was definitely a liberal (we're not all doves). He was a little wrong on tax policy, but overall... He was most certainly part of the liberal consensus.
right - classic liberalism has nothing to do with today's use of the term. Just like the word "democrat" There is nothing demopcratic about how the democratic party operates. They operate by use of force.
lol - ok
it's not "against" communism. it's against authoritarianism and totalitarianism. stalin's regime was both.
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Final paragraph:
Twelve voices were shouting in anger, and they were all alike. No question, now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.
The animals had become the very thing they detested. Read the comments on these forums. Deja vu all over again.
Here is one from Orwell and they removed it from the high school curriculum. How convenient.
http://www.george-orwell.org/1984
another excellent piece of work
when I was young I tried to explain to my teacher that Orwell's words could be used to describe America, and she berated me until I changed my tune. In college I made a claim that Sparta resembled America. If you switched war with hostile take overs and creative destruction, you can see the same hierarchy. My peers laughed at me. Who's laughing now?
George Orwell was an anarchist.
He even fought in the Spanish civil war.
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The best book I ever Had to read.
orwell is not socialist he is lunatic
how so ?
Great story. Excellent portrayal of an ideology that is a failure, yet no one seems to know this. Doesn't anybody read anymore? All they do is rely on bullshit and bastardize the English language.