Forum Post: all of our senators are guilty of treason; lets hand them the verdict
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 10, 2011, 10:12 a.m. EST by flamingliberal
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All of our senators have sold legislation to the highest bidder. They are guilty of treason against the american people. We should replace them with our own people who will not take lobbiest money. Hand your senator a letter stating they have been found guilty of treason.
...and what might your opinion be on the House of Representatives? Yeah, didn't think so.
We should re-design elections. Corporations should not be allowed to donate to election campaigns and there should be low limits on how much each individual person can contribute. With the internet, it is cheap to get candidate information out to the masses. Maybe then we can be rid of all the cheap smear campaigns that contribute nothing to society.
'flamingliberal' Good Post! There's not enough outrage in the streets to match the scale of corruption by our policy makers. That being said, I think putting a choke-hold on the corporation is the more actionable approach. SHORT THOSE A-holes!
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. July 4, 1776.
Nonsense.
Bernie Sanders (i), Vermont
Patrick Leahy (d), Vermont
Both stand as fine examples of integrity. When you say 'all' senators have sold out it becomes clear that a) you are frustrated with the system; and b) have no clue about who has been doing what in DC - with which I sympathize, it can be very difficult to follow. A large part of that difficulty is linguistics - ie it's a language thing. Another part of it is procedural - many of their procedures are specifically designed to shield who has done what from public view.
The two men I just cited did not create the system. They simply work within it, and they do so for the benefit of the American people and to their own credit.
Sanders - among a small handful who forced the truth regarding GWS
Leahy - anti-landmine campaign,
Both support a Free Tibet
Sen. Sanders and Congressman Welch are among those demanding an investigation into the role of the State Dept regarding the Tar Sands Oil Pipeline.
These men have behaved in a manner that reflects the highest ethical conduct of any that have so served, carrying with them on their journey to DC the best of Vermont values and tradition.
I am a Vermonter.
Such aspersions cast upon these two men, men of character and unimpeachable reputation,
are fighting words indeed.
fool.
Patrick Leahy is one of the strongest backers of the so-called Patriot Act (really, the U.S. Government Hates Us for our Freedoms Act). Maybe he was neutered by the anthrax assassination attempt.
I do appreciate your sentiment. But do you honestly believe that sentiment will actually embolden people... c'mon get real.
You mean the renamed P. Act? Well who would have thought the OWS movement would have blossomed all across the U.S. (and the world). I recall posts in various progressive blogs and forums decrying how we were only preaching to the converted in our little progressive internet ghettos. And look now. All we can do is plant the seeds and wait for the right conditions for germination.
I get it. I don't care for the Patriot Act either. In fact, I could have been arrested as late as 2007 and 8 for various online statements -
like, say, the chief justice of the supreme court would look lovely attired with a hand axe, planted smack dab in the middle of his forehead . . .
And just because I haven't been arrested for such observations doesn't mean that I won't be at some future date.
None of that changes the fact that issues of law enforcement and anti-terrorism face complex challenges. I think that if you dig right into the issue of the Patriot Act and Sen. Leahy's position on it you will find early opposition on his part to significant portions of that bill, and a highly nuanced position on the rest.
But perhaps you don't accept the fact that there are those around the world committed to killing Americans, that in part America's role in the global corporatocracy movement is a motivating factor, that repelican neo-conservatives find this useful and that this utility creates huge headaches for the rest of us . . .
what can I say . . .
Righties are only NOW bitching about the Patriot Act because it affects their gun usage (aka "civil liberties"). We're all going to have to get in the habit of more questioning of, well, basically anything they say about anything.
We got to sell the idea of 10 Amendments of the Bill Rights all standing together, as one unit.
All I have to say is that we live in the era of false flag actions.
I hear that. Thanks to the efforts of researchers who have today taken the tools of marketing to whole new levels, such that consent may be manufactured for just about anything, it is entirely possible that any one of us may one day become useful tools in the creation of the next false flag - and thus spend whatever time remains us after, not knowing or understanding what our role was or how our good intentions got so completely fucked up.
I hear ya.
Arlington Road http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0137363/
I was thinking more along the lines of movies like:
Eyes Wide Shut
The Game
Existence
The End of Violence
Inception
and the list goes on . . .
there is a website that shows all the money they have gotten from lobbiests. a b that in ur coolaid pipe.
Do you have any idea how much it costs for a single television ad? I mean, I don't.
The system we have is very complicated - if you really wanna break shit you are first going to have to have a clear understanding of how things work, so that you can identify the weaknesses that exist, and exploit them.
Or not. Whatever.
But here - just a bit of food for thought:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/-to-anti-establishmentarians-a-note-on-net-neutral/
fuck that, u dont sell legislation period.
I'm not saying I disagree - what I am saying is that it is a systemic problem - and there are honorable people who are and have been waiting a long time for the people to sit up and pay attention.
Who said: "Corporations have the right to free speech"
Who said: "Corporations are people too"
Conservatives on the Supreme Court,
Mitt Romney
Who said:
Corporations do not have tongues!!
You can, if you tweet . . . .