Forum Post: ALERT: 2 Shocking videos-The 1% (who pushed mayor to send police in) need to think about POLICE TEAR GASSING disabled man in WHEELCHAIR & throwing flash bang grenade at young people helping marine who'd been shot in head by police w/tear gas canister
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 27, 2011, 7:50 a.m. EST by therising
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Note: non-violence is key to our success.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45030431/ns/us_news-life/t/atlanta-police-arrest-around-anti-wall-street-protesters/
Also watch how the police fire projectiles, tear gas and flash bang grenade at a dozen young people who are trying to help a wounded marine (Iraq war veteran). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZLyUK0t0vQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player The young man had a fractured skull because police shot him in the head with tear gas canister.
Active NON-violent resistance is the way we will win this.
There is nothing so powerful as an idea whose time has come......
Yes, I agree with you.
An idea can create unstoppable powerful forces for revolution.
It's unfolding before our very eyes.
To treat an American this way is just horrible. To treat a veteran this way is unconscionable. These officers must be held accountable as should the police chief and mayor.
Are criminal charges being filed against policemen who shot Iraq War veteran in the head with tear gas canister?
Are criminal charges being fired against officer who shot tear gas and threw flash bang grenade at the people kneeling down trying to help the injured man. Keep in mind he had a fractured skull.
I think the American people as a whole should file criminal charges and a civil class action law suit.
I showed these videos to a friend of mine with no audio without telling him where they were taken. He thought it was a 3rd world country.
No matter how much the police act like 3rd world police, let's act like first class citizens. It's time to rise in a strong and forceful way. If we stay non-violent, we will prevail.
It's hard to believe this is America. There is more freedom of assembly in Egypt.
Nice! We need to keep repeating this.
welcome to the police state ... been in the making over the last 40 years ... We call them undercover at home but in adversary countries we call them secret police ...
This is nowhere near a police state. And just remember, it takes one protester to throw a brick through a window and nationwide riots could erupt in a matter of hours. The police dont know who that one person is so they assume its everyone.
It is very much a Police state
and remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vMFdSTG26s
Maybe because of events that have taken place in the recent past, the mayor and police feel the need to be proactive when it comes to protesters in Oakland.
What makes this a police state?
Secret militarized police ....NSA, DEA, IRS, ATF undercover police, police with their faces and badges covered, police infiltration of peace groups, Police provocateurs, police with high explosives and tanks, Stop and Frisk, Police Intimidation example K9 unites watching people enter subway, secret orders, secret warrants, collusion between corporate federal state, corporate for profit prison system, corporate drug task force that keeps forfeited assets the black water of policing... Homeland security ... no more habeas corpus ... collusion between federal state law enforcement and organized crime, rendition aka kidnapping assassination including of american citizens with out a trial, CIA selling drugs in america ... freeway Ricky Ross , collusion between CIA and FBI , free speech zones, police monitoring online activity and speech, Spy on your neighbor see something say something, instead of law enforcement working for the general welfare of the population they work to create income for local and state. federal and state registrations , to work around Posse Comitatus Act by make police military armed, War on drugs and so on and so on
We must remain non-violent
We need to remain non-violent. Active non-violent resistance is how we win. We lose if we get violent. Period. They know what to do with violence. Nonviolence confounds the 1% because they look bad no matter how they react. This is a battle for the hearts and minds of the American public and we lose those hearts and minds if we're violent. Right now 1% is reacting so violently because they see themselves losing the hearts and minds of Americans and they know that if they can provoke violence, some of the members of the clear majority of Americans who currently support the movement would turn against it.
Right On, therising. People need to step back and reflect for a minute. Don't waste your energy on surface level emotions with something ugly. Represent the people in a beautiful way, re-channel this surplus of energy into something beautiful, inspiring and strong. Beauty and Inspiration will bring cohesion to the movement.
Right on. Make the reaction beautiful. The beauty will shame them.
Wow, protesters took on police and got hurt in the process. Shocking. You folks on the front line of OWS need to get your useful idiots under control, or else this movement will be as effective as Chicago 1968 or Berkley 1970. By the way, who got elected president in 1972? That's right, a rightwing nutjob named Nixon. How does President Perry sound to you?
I suggest for the next time wear eye protection and gloves so the tear gas canisters can be thrown back. Also 6.5 ft long wooden posts with a circumference of 5 to 7 inches available at most lumber supply store. of course attach signs to them to make them appear less obvious. They make great pokers to keep shielded adversaries at bay.
In the USA we call it home land security The Gestapo had the authority to investigate cases of treason, espionage, sabotage and criminal attacks on the Nazi Party and Germany. The basic Gestapo law passed by the government in 1936 gave the Gestapo carte blanche to operate without judicial oversight. The Gestapo was specifically exempted from responsibility to administrative courts, where citizens normally could sue the state to conform to laws. Prussian administrative court had ruled that the Gestapo's actions were not subject to judicial review. The SS officer Werner Best, onetime head of legal affairs in the Gestapo, summed up this policy by saying, "As long as the police carries out the will of the leadership, it is acting legally.
Please do not hate police.
Even after the revolution, we need police to enforce the laws and orders.
Police are in hard situation between following orders and fairness.
Agree wholeheartedly
Time for us to show the 1% just how powerful nonviolent action can be.
Please explain this situation to me. First, the unionized police, fire, first-responders embraced as a key entity dismissed by the 1 percent- think Madison, Wisconsin. Now, through some strange vortex, the police/keepers of order have become "boots on the ground". Yet, there is no empathy to the fact that local budgets and resources are being stretched to keep the OWS encampments safe. Likewise, the local business entities and people which reside in these zones have been rather giving. I in no way condone brutality in any guise or form. When resources are being diverted from accidents, homicides, and other unseemly local events in order to placate the needs of OWS......stress is mounting. Just another vantage point.
OK but what's your point?
Let's follow the powerful examples of King and Gandhi
Have police, police chief and mayor been charged yet?
We will be free if we persevere with nonviolent tactics.
..any one remember 'Kent State'..?
Something more that needs to be looked at: the weapons used at Oakland - the bean bags, tear gas & rubber bullets - are classified as "non lethal" or "less than lethal" weapons.
The same with tasers, which have killed a number of people since their deployment into police hands.
The use of these weapons by police against American citizens exercising constitutional rights or engaging in what at most would be misdemeanor disorderly conduct needs to END.
They are not non-lethal. They are lethal instruments of repression.
They certainly were not non-lethal to Scott Olsen.
We must avoid conflicts with the police. The police are not the problem.
We must avoid conflicts with the police. The police are not the problem.
Urging the mayor to send police in isn't the same aw ordering police to aim tear gas canisters at individuals. The officers who committed criminal acts should be prosecuted, but you can't blame the mayor or police chief for that.
COOLER heads must prevail. Yes people should be upset, but turn your energy into something positive and constructive.
This is an opportunity for the movement to display a sense of forbearance, timing, discipline, and control. The attributes of a stalker who is hunting knowledge and freedom.