Forum Post: Ahem. "Protesters"
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 15, 2011, 8:57 p.m. EST by blinxwang
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from Johns Creek, GA
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Dear Occupy Wall Street, You might be the 99% of America, but you’re still the 1% of the world. Keep that in mind. Keep in mind that you have the money to buy those nice iPhones you’re recording “police brutality” with, as you berate the corporations that provided it to you. You bought the damn iPhone. Want to stop Apple? Simple, stop buying their damn products. Get a loan you can afford, and be responsible; anyone’s debt is no one’s fault but their own. If you’re going to get a loan that’s going to be a bitch to pay off, remember it’s your fault that you’re going to be paying off a shit ton of debt with a German Literature degree. It’s called common sense. So shut the fuck up, get a job, and stop whining for more government handouts. Your student loan debt? That’s your own fault. Aren’t people getting loans they couldn’t afford what got us in the mess?
"If you’re going to get a loan that’s going to be a bitch to pay off, remember it’s your fault that you’re going to be paying off a shit ton of debt"
I agree, the government really should stop taking loans it won't be able to pay off. It is definitely their own fault for getting themselves into this mess.
Nice rebuttal!!!
Banks don't provide cell-phones, dude. The protest is against the FINANCIAL INDUSTRY, not just any ole' corporation. They are pissed because our government thinks banks are "too big to fail", and they simply aren't. Get it straight.
Clearly, the blinxwang that posted this is completely uninformed of the facts. The predatory loans, the deregulation of the financial industry, the selling of bad investments to customers while the investment firm bets against that same sale, the increase in ledger ratios, the lobbying power that corrupted the government, the effect that this had on the entire world...Wall Street needs to be held responsible for this worldwide crisis! Get your facts straight before you place blame on people that were convinced that these institutions were working in our best interest. Here, I'll help you...http://www.movshare.net/video/409v61ql26cai Watch this informative documentary, if you're at all interested in the truth.
Ummm Bubba... There are no jobs, Capiche?
But you have an opportunity throught OWS to put up something meaningful.
There's a reason OWS doesn't have a set of demands yet. It's because you haven't told them what to demand. That's very reason for this forum.
Here's what I want: How would you feel about a Constitutional Amendment that separates the political definitions of money and speech, allowing for the elimination of "bought government". What do you think of that idea... It's sort of "Occupy The Constitution".
I don't have any loans. I do not have an Iphone, I am in school. I own the minimum. A car, i own it completely no debt there, I own my clothes. I have only a debt to Verizon which is very weird because I paid it before it was a debt, even weirder is the fact that after they said I owed them money, I presented my receipt and they denied a hard copy fact. The Receipt was the hard copy fact. I still owe them money. Explain that. That is why I call myself 99%. No joke, this has also happened to a few other people I know. Since I paid the debt, I have the hard copy, they have denied it, How would you, since you seem to be so knowledgeable, fix that problem? I am 99%
I owe about $50K. I think my interest is about 4%-5% compounded daily (which means it's not "simple interest". Do you know how much it will cost me in total payments after 24 years? Over $180K!! Is it fair that I go to college in order to become a productive member of society...a tax payer...and then for the government to profit from it?
Wouldn't it e be better if I took that money for my retirement (the $130K in interest I am paying to the gov't) and not have to depend on social security for my retirement?
Toward tearing it apart:
http://occupywallst.org/forum/an-infographic-about-student-loan-debt-your-gatewa/
ANYTIME the "99%" police come down to the park, gently ENCOURAGE them to leak documents/information about this crackdown!
Hold up signs describing where to leak documents, and how to switch to our side!
Follow them! Gently, but CONSTANTLY plead with them to help us!
omg this same post over & over is there a template out there on the internet they're using or is it the same guy just changing forum handles
Get an original routine, buddy.
http://www.themultitude.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=263#p263
it is not as if there are not legit complaints; the most obvious is education. my dad could work an entry level job, go to school for accounting, and graduate debt free. i can go to the same school for accounting, work the same entry level job, and graduate with a ton of debt. so what happened? why has the cost of school inflated faster than everything else, including health care? is the program sooo much better now, or is there some other kind of problem?
my problem with OWS is that their answer is usually "i don't know" / "greed" and they want "free" european schooling, when the real answer is the way the government has funded and guaranteed loans and allowed a bubble in education to grow, with that being the problem we should fix.
either way, it's moronic to deny there is a problem.
Go tell this to Wall Street. They took out trillions worth of debt and legal obligations that they could not pay. Then they ran to the U.S. government and begged for trillions of dollars in loans when their bets went bad.
The average student or homeowners is only protesting over $50,000-$100,000, or so. Wall Street begged for trillions of dollars, and then received it!
Um, I know it must feel great to berate your fellow citizen, but you know to keep one thing in mind: SCOPE.
Note that this is delicious copypasta. I just want to see how you guys tear this apart.
LOL I just posted "is there a template out there somewhere"
Exactly, stop buying their products if that what it takes, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 10% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:
http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategic_legal_policy_organizational_operational_structures_tactical_investment_procedures
Join
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/
because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org to support a Presidential Candidate -- such as any given political opportunist you'd like to draft -- in support of the above bank-focused platform.
Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Congress replacing the "old" Congress according to your current Occupation & Generation, called a Focused Direct Democracy.
Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet; it's the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under, in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing & Group Investment Power, that's important. In this, sequence is key.
Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.
The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 10% Management Group of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.
Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupation & Generation.
So please JOIN the 2nd link so we can make our support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.