Forum Post: A very simple question
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 10, 2011, 12:11 a.m. EST by craigjones
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I am obviously failing to understand this occupy movement. Truthfully I think you all a bunch of hipsters. So please do me a favor an answer this question.
Lets say there are two students in a English 1001 class at a university. So, you have student 1 who is a 4.0 student, works his butt off everyday and every essay. Always gets good grades. You have student 2, a so so student who does decent work, but never breaks much of a sweat over his English work. Lets say he is a 2.0 student. Student 2 wants a high C, so you just take point away from student 1 and they both end up with high Cs for grades. That would be totally fair to the liberals? Would it be fair here too?
We're saying both students should pay the 5% income tax on the books that both of them have to buy. We don't wan't yours, we want fair.
Student 1 gets 4.0, and Student 2 gets 2.0. Then both graduate with those grades and are both well taken care of because they're both Human Beings.
When did getting poor grades make you less Human?
Hmmm, let's say instead that it's not a English class, but a "How to be an Industrial Destroyer" class (that's a 300 level course).
You have the 1% who work their butt off (they blast open mountains and find rich fields of minerals and oil) -- the teacher gives them an A. Then, you have the 99% who like meaningful work, but dang, it doesn't just take things to churn it into value, so it's not as easy to make "the Big Money". The teacher only gives them a C because they didn't hand in as much money.
Is that fair?
You're angry -- not because of the protesters, but because somewhere.... deep down, you know you're being lied to and getting violated.
Some in OWS would say it is fair if the first student didn't earn his grade and in fact cheated frequently to obtain his final grade (of a 4.0), and this in turn caused multiple students to have a lower grade due to a curve (of a 2.0).
But I wont, because the problem here is that there is a grade at all to determine one's proficiency in the english language. These grades are only meaningful when applied to a degree. This degree is then applied to obtain a career where most of your prior indoctrination... learning rewards you a typical job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDZFcDGpL4U
And this job hopefully earns you enough money so you can have access to all the goods and services which are artificially limited so businesses obtain higher profits. So working for more of your money earns you less and less. Lying, cheating, stealing, and manipulating the system however earns you much much more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpcd0woY2KY
So really, it's the system itself which must be changed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
As you mention it, you obviously fail to understand the Occupy movement. Because of this you are asking questions that make no sense in regards to Occupy.
You can keep wasting your time if you wish by rehashing the types of question people who do not understand Occupy pose. However, I do not see the point. Better would be to first learn what Occupy is. To study the movement, it's history, David Graeber the man behind it, etc... Knowledge is power. Once you comprehend the movement, you will be able to pose worthwhile and strong arguments against it if you still do not agree. This will give you power. If someone destroys OWS with his words, it will be someone highly educated about the movement who really understands its flaws. Not someone re-posting the same simple minded criticism everyone else is.
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You're not the only one and the 1% of the 99% responsible for OWS refuses to take a stand. It's pathetic, there's a real opportunity here and it's slipping away. So put away the imaginary questions, they can be revisited later: "This is not a question of politics, of right or wrong. This is a question of intelligence. We must be smart. We enjoy popular support, for now. But to preserve America's good will, we must keep our demands narrow: end the corrupting influence of money in politics. That is something a majority of Americans can get behind. That is something a social movement can achieve. And then, and only then, can the other issues be successfully pursued."
Any questions? (this is a test)
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