Forum Post: A Modest Proposal
Posted 13 years ago on Nov. 15, 2011, 2:39 a.m. EST by GypsyKing
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I spent 2 hours posting a version of the following, in length, thinking it was a topic of some import, but it was blocked for being "too long". I guess some people think we can attempt to do nothing less than solve the world's problems in pithy little sound-bites!!!
In any case here is the eviserated and dumbed-down version that doesn't offend the moderators short attention span, condensed by 1000 words or so:
Of all our options now, by far the best is organized debt repudiation. That's it. They will come begging us to stop on bended knee, and do whatever we tell them to do at that point, because that is what their power is based on - on our cooperation in serviceing their criminally contrived method of enslavery. If only 30% of us went along with this the impact would be devastating and shocking in it's immediacy! Go Big, or Go Home. After today, it's time to stop playing games with these sociopaths. They can take their debt and shove it! Every credit card, every mortgage! See if they can herd a hundred million of us before their Nazi thugs?
We need to organize spread of good ideas. We need place where we can accumulate and rate them. We need ppl who who can run such website and link it to this web site.
Yeah, right now I'm finally pissed enough to stop posting here entirely! Very early this morning this site stopped live streaming, and under the circumstances of events later in the day, I would like an explanation of that fact! I had a strong feeling at that time that that was a portent of something serious in the wind, and I heard no explanation from the keepers of this site, whoever they are - and where's the goddamned transparency?
Yep, I'm annoyed too. "We need public space for GA's." Occupy this, Occupy that. Why is nobody Occupying the internet? You could take polls, people could vote right in their own homes. Things like Move Your Money would be quite effective. I have about decided the occupy movement is being deliberately ineffective.
I think the idea of having a place to accumulate all the worthy ideas then vote on them is a good idea. Occupyr has a page where you can post an idea then have people vote on it but I haven't spent any time over there so I don't know how well it works.
OK. Thanks. I'll search for it.
This is a forum. This is not the place where you will solve the world's problems. It would be the first time that would be accomplished online. Which would be cool if you could.
You couldn't even figure out how to make a Part II and Part III with links in your Part I.
This a forum to communicate on the internet. It's not rocket science.
Extreme campaign finance reform and nationalize the federal reserve which would end the debt based monetary system. Take away their debt power and their reign over OUR government.
This is really funny! You know, I actually had the solution, actually worked out how to solve this whole mess, after an entire lifetime of serious thought and expierence! And then I painstakingly posted a part of it here, in spite of being very sick, and deeply tired, and they said it was too long, and they won't put it up, And then some flippant kid critisizes me because I've lived life in the real world, and not the cuddly bosum of some machine that he probably secrestly thinks is not only a substitutes for, but an actual improvement on real human expierence . . . and after 40 grueling years of pushing for change and searching for the verry esscence of truth, a moment comes when you suddenly, inexplicably say - go figure it out for yourself then. I don't give a shit anymore. Most people alive today never even knew what real freedom was, so how can they really miss it anyway?
People never change really, that's the problem. The moment it's comfortable again, if it ever is, they'll slip right back into their old, selfish, egotistical ways. And if in a few years we're still here, we'll all just have our heads burried in some video game, or bottle of booze again, trying to escape the failing of our mutual lovelessness and inability to connect to anything truely living and meaningful. That's all people really want now anyway, isn't it? An escape. There's no real awareness of the sacred in anything or anybody anymore anyway. It's a wasteland.
Sorry to tell you kiddies, but it is Only by saving yourself from yourself that you can ever save anybody from anything. ThanksTrevormoronic, for forcing me to finally confront the most painful truth of all, and setting me free of that most ruthless and relentless of all antagonists, the will to care. Goodbye.
I criticized you because of your Negative attitude throughout this post. If you had better intentions and did so in a more productive matter, I think this post wouldn't have seemed problematic and you wouldn't have gotten that comment from me. Then you attacked this website that let's you use it for free and is being put up by people for free that have worked hard on this site and it's upkeep. Most sites have a limit to what you can post, it's a fact. Write down your ideas somewhere else and include a link, or include a link to a part II or part III.
The number of times you've replied to this comment, deleted those replies, and then replied again, and then attacked me in replies on my comments elsewhere is very odd. I don't fully understand your intentions or your attitude in this post or in comments elsewhere due to your odd behavior.
You're right, if you didn't know the back-story to that it exchange it would appear really weird. All that backstory would be too involved to go into here. The posts and detractions were due to my changing understanding of that situation as it unfolded. I apologized to you for that, and will do so again. Sorry.
Afrer seeing my mistake I say clearly that you have nothing to do with the tenor of my last post.
Is my behavior odd? After what I have been seeing on video out of Denver, Portland and finally NYC - if so, it is because I am now finally Really Angry!
Yet I stand behind what I said about the overriding need for growth, and transformation on a personal, spiritual level, which your immediate assessment of me without even reading my many posts on this site ( I don't believe you when you say you have done so, or you wouldn't have sent me this note, phrazed the way it is) is but a small, and harmless example.
Until we are ready to change ourselves - really change ourselves - none of THIS will change anything! Do I think I'm perfect? Hell no! The truth is, I can get really pissed-off at times, and I am so now - which is why I'm bowing out here, at least for a good while. Once a person reaches that point, they become part of the problem, rather than the solution, and let me tell you, after yesterday I am Hopping Mad! So here it is again, I'm sorry!
What I was otherwise trying to comumicate, is that outward action of any kind can never really be even half of the solution. We must all, me included, fight the real battle at the inner-level of the soul. Only through that GENUINE and at times painful battle can this struggle ever be won. I am no longer in the state of mind conductive to progress, and I regret venting my anger and frustration so unwarrentedly at you. That is why I'm bowing out to gain my equalibrium. See you around perhaps, and good luck:)
Once everyone understands that we may have 2 parties, but there is only 1 master, then we can unite and take down the corrupt. I am glad we share this similar thought.
Sorry but this site has a few trolls and one thing a lot of them do is attack this website, i jumped to conclusions and thought that's what you were doing, which is why my first comment seems harsher than my second comment.