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Forum Post: A Good Demand to Start with....

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 9:03 p.m. EST by WeHaveDemands (186)
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In my opinion, the heart of the issue is campaign finance reform. We need to have all political campaigns funded by the taxpayers from a separate fund. An amount would be designated say: 50 million dollars or 25 or whatever is a reasonable amount to actually travel and give speeches, and provide security for the candidates etc. And that NO OTHER MONEY be used, and that any contribution from ANY private donor big or small be made unlawful.

THEN we can begin to recenter American Democracy around the electoral process and the actual WILL of the people.

Right now, politicians tell their "constituents" what they want to hear and make all of the promises they need to make, and then, newly elected (or re-elected) arrive in Washington and are immediately cornered and overwhelmed by all of the special interests that actually funded their campaign, and these politicians no longer connect "doing the will of the people" with "being a successful politician."

THAT is the straw that is stirring this corrupt drink right now. Our leaders no longer need to act in the interests of the people they serve. Moreover, it is actually political suicide for them to do so. THAT, I feel, is a good "starting point" for one of this beautiful and exhilarating movement's central demands.

REFORM CAMPAIGN FINANCE now...

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[-] 1 points by jomojo (562) 13 years ago

I heard that the state of CT provided public campaign funding, and that the candidates that spent a fortune for expensive ads, lost. That just makes too much common sense to be true.

[-] 1 points by atki4564 (1259) from Lake Placid, FL 13 years ago

Agreed, these are excellent ideas, but start the war against Injustice by starting our own banks to double the income of the Bottom 99% of Workers, for many more people will come to your side when you are proactive (for “new” Business & Government solutions), instead of reactive (against “old” Business & Government solutions), which is why what we most immediately need is a comprehensive “new” strategy that implements all our various socioeconomic demands at the same time, regardless of party, and although I'm all in favor of taking down today's ineffective and inefficient Top 1% Management System of Business & Government, there's only one way to do it – by fighting bankers as bankers ourselves, and thus doubling our income from Bank Profits which are 40% of all Corporate Profits; that is, using a Focused Direct Democracy organized according to our current Occupations & Generations. Consequently, I have posted a 1-page Summary of the Strategically Weighted Policies, Organizational Operating Structures, and Tactical Investment Procedures necessary to do this at:

http://getsatisfaction.com/americanselect/topics/on_strategically_weighted_policies_organizational_operating_structures_tactical_investment_procedures-448eo

Join http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/StrategicInternationalSystems/ because we need 100,000 “support clicks” at AmericansElect.org in support of the above bank-focused platform.

Most importantly, remember, as cited in the first link, that as Bank Owner-Voters in your 1 of 48 "new" Business Investment Groups (or "new" Congressional Committees) you become the "new" Online Congress, and related “new” Businesses, REPLACING the "old" Congress, and related “old” Businesses, according to your current Occupations & Generations, called a Focused Direct Democracy.

Therefore, any Candidate (or Leader) therein, regardless of party, is a straw man, a puppet, a political opportunist, just like today; what's important is the STRATEGY – the sequence of steps – that the people organize themselves under in Military Internet Formation of their Individual Purchasing Power & Group Investment Power. In this, sequence is key, and if the correct mathematical sequence is followed then it results in doubling the income of the Bottom 99% of Workers from today's Bank Profits, which are 40% of all Corporate Profits.

Why? Because there are Natural Social Laws – in mathematical sequence – that are just like Natural Physical Laws, such as the Law of Gravity. You must follow those Natural Social Laws or the result will be Injustice, War, etc.

The FIRST step in Natural Social Law is to CONTROL the Banks as Bank Owner-Voters. If you do not, you will inevitably be UNJUSTLY EXPLOITED by the Top 1% Management System of Business & Government who have a Legitimate Profit Motive, just like you, to do so.

Consequently, you have no choice but to become Candidates (or Leaders) yourselves as Bank Owner-Voters according to your current Occupations & Generations.

So JOIN the 2nd link, and spread the word, so we can make 100,000 support clicks at AmericansElect.org when called for, at exactly the right time, by an e-mail from that group, in support of the above the bank-focused platform. If so, then you will see and feel how your goals can be accomplished within the above strategy as a “new” Candidate (or Leader) of your current Occupation & Generation.

[-] 1 points by RillyKewl (218) 13 years ago

Repeal Gramm-Leach-Bliley!

[-] 1 points by sfcharles (41) from San Francisco, CA 13 years ago

Yep. I support this idea. The people are not their constituency, at present:

[One longtime money manager] added that he was disappointed that members of Congress from New York, especially Senator Charles E. Schumer and Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, had not come out swinging for an industry that donates heavily to their campaigns. “They need to understand who their constituency is,” he said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/15/business/in-private-conversation-wall-street-is-more-critical-of-protesters.html

[-] 1 points by Joey789 (34) 13 years ago

You need some tweeking in your idea. Contribution from BIG donor should ve made unlawful.

We, the individual, need to be heard and represented.

If you do not think so, go and read your Constitution again.

[-] 1 points by WeHaveDemands (186) 13 years ago

I'm not sure I understand your point here. Though I am now working on a more formal articulation of my issue. I just really wanted to get this idea into the debate as soon as I could.

[-] 1 points by Illusionsaregrander (4) 13 years ago

We need to end corporate personhood via an amendment first, imho. Trying to reform campaign finance without that will be a nightmare as we will run smack into the right of free speech at every turn.

Clarify that corporations do not have that right, and it wont be hard to reform campaign finance.

[-] 1 points by WeHaveDemands (186) 13 years ago

I am still not sure what sustainable interest the politicians will have in ending "corporate personhood" without a measure like the one I am proposing.

[-] 1 points by sfcharles (41) from San Francisco, CA 13 years ago

I agree with you, and illusions has a point too. If you're drafting something more formal, it would be good to think of the implications in the courts. Bounce it off some people too - there's a lot of support for this reform in my circles.

[-] 1 points by WeHaveDemands (186) 13 years ago

Will do. Mine too.