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Forum Post: A demand that 99% can agree on... voting machines with paper trails!

Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 10, 2011, 3:35 a.m. EST by imrational (527)
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One demand that we should add is requiring that voting machines generate a papertrail and be easily audited on site and afterwards to check for errors and tampering.

This demand should be added for the following reasons...

  1. It will help fight tampering of our elective process.
  2. It is something that 99% of people would agree with, therefore, it is something that would have a high degree of success of passing.
  3. it would help avoid the future illegal fiascos like the SCOTUS ruling in Florida after the Bush/Gore election.

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[-] 1 points by apell1992 (51) 13 years ago

I agree. I recently watched a documentary where someone confessed that electronic elections, even presidential ones, can be rigged. Don't rule out the possibility just because it sounds too sinister.

[-] 1 points by imrational (527) 13 years ago

There have been several news stories on this subject. Voting machines in Ohio were set up in a way that hacking the results would have been easy. In fact, the GOP webdesigner, who was going to testify about voter fraud, died in a plane crash, a short time after his attorney requested protection for his client due to death threats from Karl Rove.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/3885913/George-Bush-aide-dies-in-plane-crash.html

Here is an article about how the Diebold voting machines could be hacked with no traces left (they do not utilize a papertrail). https://www.infosecisland.com/blogview/16960-Researchers-Demonstrate-Diebold-Voting-Machine-Hack.html

[-] 1 points by apell1992 (51) 13 years ago

Holy s*it! "Death threats from Karl Rove" made me laugh. Seriously, though. This is bad.

[-] 1 points by imrational (527) 13 years ago

Yeah, when I first heard about the story, I thought... "oh, it's just conspiracy theory bullshit". Then I read the one paragraph story that was buried in CBS's newsfeed. Yup, it was legitimate and the story was never brought out. Strange that, hunh?

Almost as strange as Sean Hoare, the News of the World whistleblower who cost Rupert Murdoch over 4 billion dollars, found dead in his apartment... with Scotland Yard saying his death wasn't suspicious, but unable to say how he died.

[-] 1 points by apell1992 (51) 13 years ago

I remember when that happened about Sean Hoare. That was bad. That was really bad.

[-] 1 points by imrational (527) 13 years ago

I gotta say, it depresses me that serious ideas languish on the forum while spamming/insulting threads receive tons of comments.

[-] 1 points by noism (78) from Seattle, WA 13 years ago

I'd feel more comfortable with allowing the separate states/counties to determine whether or not they want it done that way. Then we can see what the people say.

[-] 1 points by imrational (527) 13 years ago

Why would they want voting machines that did not generate a papertrail?

[-] 1 points by noism (78) from Seattle, WA 13 years ago

LOL, the question in a democracy isn't always "why" but "If".

[-] 1 points by PublicCurrency (1387) 13 years ago

I completely agree ! !