Forum Post: 99% Declaration??
Posted 13 years ago on Oct. 18, 2011, 1:30 p.m. EST by motherofexiles
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This content is user submitted and not an official statement
https://sites.google.com/site/the99percentdeclaration/home
Who wrote this? Is the GA aware of this and if so does the GA support it? What about the 99%? I'd gather that most of the 99% hasn't even heard of this. I fear that these sorts of "declarations" and "executive assemblies" etc are not participatory enough... hope I'm wrong...
any info would be much appreciated!
It is a user made submission. There are quite a few of them out there. Here is a link to mine.
http://wh.gov/2zR
Everybody here is trying to find the message we want to send and we are all trying to write it out. There are a lot of bad ideas but even the bad ones have points of merit we can learn from.
Thanks Bruce. So basically I should read these sorts of declarations as suggestions, more or less... ?
Lol, bruce is the town I live in, my name is Kevin.
And more or less. Some people will push their ideas, and that is fine, just don't get caught up in anything without thinking it through. Form your own ideas and get back to us with what they are. It may very well be embraced by everybody and end up being our goal.
lol!! Sorry Kevin!
Right now we are looking about about 1-2% of the 99% that is actually informed about any of this. Don't know who wrote it. Good Luck!
Good point, Harry. Thanks.
I'm in the moderate middle and I'm sick of the country see-sawing between left and right as the culture wars align pretty much 50/50. The only way I see this working is if any declaration coming out of the committee be from a SUPER-MAJORITY, not a simple majority. I'm already hearing my friends in the 25% of the country who appreciate the fiscal issues of the Tea Party saying that it's just a joke that won't include them. Either find where we REALLY have consensus or don't bother.
From article - "There finally has been an appearance of what some might call a "political agenda" by the "99%" folks - those doing the "Occupy Wherever" protests in America.
This is an embryo of a document, and they have specifically asked for comments and input.
Here's my 2 cents, and since my "people's mic" is most-easily utilized through The Ticker, I'll do it this way, although this is being CC'd to their gmail address."
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?post=196201
http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/gov/2618821815.html
Fascinating!
the help wanted ads have become a line of anonymous BS send resume today
I'm for it. Hold a General Assembly to discuss it. I say that the 99% Declaration is the most robust way of changing the political arena. It has been done before. Teddy Roosevelt and the Bull Moose party enacted antitrust.
The OWS movement by definition is one of Democrats protesting the rights of the 99% Majority
Definition of Democrat A democrat is a member of the Democratic political party or someone who believes in equality for all people and ruling by the majority. (noun) An example of is Wisconsins recalling a elected republican who favors the 1% rather than the 99% in exchange for a democrat who supports the 99%
We Wisconsin protesters of republicans believe
Republican 1. Paid to support the 1% Rich, corporations 2. regulates in favor of leverage to rich, protects them from being prosectuted for financial fraud 3. Believe it is all right to supress the vote by donations from rich corporations to 4.Believes in a communist governement ruled by the rich elete who write the laws that are in favor of top 1% 5. Plege never to raise taxes on rich, give tax breaks to the rich, cut 99% workers rights
Democrat 1.a person who believes in and upholds government by the people; advocate of rule by the majority 2.a person who believes in and practices the principle of equality of rights, opportunity, and treatment 3.a member of the Democratic Party 4. believes in democracy
Ask the protesters in Wisconsin recall of republican Scott Walker believe these Republican Party had remained fairly cohesive, as both strong economic libertarians and social conservatives opposed the Democrats, whom they saw as the party of bloated and more secular, liberal government.[84] Yet, some libertarians have argued that the GOP's policies have grown increasingly restrictive of personal liberties, and has contributed to increasing corporate welfare and national debt.[85] Some social conservatives have expressed dissatisfaction with the party's support for economic policies that they see as sometimes in favor of top 1%
I feel that this movement is much more radical than anything that can be embodied by today's Democratic party. I also feel that it is our job as activists and members of this movement to insist that the movement remain independent of any political party. We all know Obama is going to ramp up his populist rhetoric throughout his campaign season.... we can NOT be taken in by it again! We cannot just ape the system we already have, nor can we compromise with it, or work within it. Our demands are much more radical than anything the Democratic party would ever be willing to meet.
The OWS movement by definition is one of Democrats protesting the rights of the 99% Majority
Definition of Democrat A democrat is a member of the Democratic political party or someone who believes in equality for all people and ruling by the majority. (noun) An example of is Wisconsins recalling a elected republican who favors the 1% rather than the 99% in exchange for a democrat who supports the 99%
We Wisconsin protesters of republicans believe
Republican 1. Paid to support the 1% Rich, corporations 2. regulates in favor of leverage to rich, protects them from being prosectuted for financial fraud 3. Believe it is all right to supress the vote by donations from rich corporations to 4.Believes in a communist governement ruled by the rich elete who write the laws that are in favor of top 1% 5. Plege never to raise taxes on rich, give tax breaks to the rich, cut 99% workers rights
Democrat 1.a person who believes in and upholds government by the people; advocate of rule by the majority 2.a person who believes in and practices the principle of equality of rights, opportunity, and treatment 3.a member of the Democratic Party 4. believes in democracy
Ask the protesters in Wisconsin recall of republican Scott Walker believe these Republican Party had remained fairly cohesive, as both strong economic libertarians and social conservatives opposed the Democrats, whom they saw as the party of bloated and more secular, liberal government.[84] Yet, some libertarians have argued that the GOP's policies have grown increasingly restrictive of personal liberties, and has contributed to increasing corporate welfare and national debt.[85] Some social conservatives have expressed dissatisfaction with the party's support for economic policies that they see as sometimes in favor of top 1%
Why do any of us have a responsibility for "everyone" else. Why do those who work hard, take risks and produce things in our world have to give it up to those that slide through life leeching off of others? The problem is not the 1% at the top, it is the 10% that have no sense of personal responsiblity and live off of the kindness of others;
Why do any of us have a responsibility for "everyone" else. Why do those who work hard, take risks and produce things in our world have to give it up to those that slide through life leeching off of others? The problem is not the 1% at the top, it is the 10% that have no sense of personal responsiblity and live off of the kindness of others;
these that "take risk" are black listed from promotion
I think the original organizers of the OWS should disband the occupation of the Wall Street in November as had been planned from its onset. At the same time, they should say declare the next stage as pushing forward "x" number of demands, ones that everyone can agree to, without all the ideology people are currently trying to attach.