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Forum Post: Who Owns Veterans Today?

Posted 12 months ago on April 20, 2013, 8:32 p.m. EST by GirlFriday (21785)
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Who owns Medbillz, inc?

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[-] 3 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

You must be referring to arturo's source?

I didn't look - I turned away as soon as I saw a couple of key things. Digging too deep into that shit just makes me sick - and that tends to be the kind of sickness that the . . . umm . . . environmental construct . . . might take advantage of.

One of these days somebody's gonna get bit.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

I think there is something very, very wrong with Medbillz. I think it is a sham company.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

Most likely a front for one [or more] of our intel apparati

Could easily be a cia/dia coop. And you know how well those guys all get along . . . sorta like squids and jar heads I'm sure . . .

Office life must be interesting . . . .

You know what they say . . .

  • Keep those knives sharp!

[I heard that in a grocery store - can you imagine? It came over the intercom a long time ago. Like, wtf?]

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

lol

keep those knives sharp

That's funny.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

I didn't think so at the time, and for some reason, everyone in the store seemed nervous.

and to be fair regarding the website, it could easily be a sub contractor - but I am positive this is following a script that comes from one or more of the agencies. When I say script I mean in a general sense - a narrative, which they may be free to embellish within certain guidelines.

Just a guess, but I'm pretty sure it's not far off.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

Ah, you know it works like this: http://www.icij.org/offshore/faux-corporate-directors-stand-fraudsters-despots-and-spies


You may very well be right.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

I'm sure there are a variety of entities that have done it - from organized criminals to corporations large and small to spies.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17765) 12 months ago

This is all a bit cryptic for me ! Care to spell it out please ? Who or what is 'Medbillz' ?

I suspect that I could soon be sorry I asked, lol !

lux et al ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

I'd love to spell it out. This is what I'm looking at.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17765) 12 months ago

I'm none the wiser now and actually feel twice the fool I was before I asked, lol.

Bedtime for me now and I'll check in tomorrow to add to my confusion, lolol !!

pax ...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

Javier shows up in the UK, here, http://company-director-check.co.uk/director/904868020

Don't know how accurate that is.

[-] 2 points by shadz66 (17765) 12 months ago

Though still perplexed and befuddled, I accept that :

"Nobody can do everything,

But everybody can do something,

Everyone must play a part,

Everyone got to go to work, Work for Peace.

Spirit Say Work, Work for Peace

If you believe the things you say, go to work.

If you believe in Peace, time to go to work.

Cant be waving your head no more, go to work. "

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 12 months ago

I read some of the comments on an article on the marathon bombing at VT.

There really are some phreaky dudes there, raving about alien reptilian canabillistic zionists.

Always a great image to portray. rolls eyes

So you've identified the site as being owned by Medbillz?

[-] 2 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

Directors

JAVIER ADAN RIVERA FERNANDEZ (google) MARIO GAYTAN PORTILLO (google) VILMA ALICIA MORALES (google)

Now check this out. 84. Armitech Company Inc., 5 Cuba Avenue, 34 St. East Building 34 - 20, Panama City, is a broker of arms transaction between Arsenalul Armatei Romania and Burkina Faso.

was informed by the Panamanian authorities that Armitech was founded on 6 March 1977 and duly registered under the reference No. 327199, Roll No. 53259. Its directors and officers include its President, Javier Adan Rivera Fernandez, Treasurer, Mario Gaytan Portillo, and Secretary, Vilma Alicia Morales. The Panamanian authorities have indicated that the company is not authorized to carry out activities related to the import or marketing of arms, ammunition, or accessories for firearms. http://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.int/files/resources/40D1F7EE11EBABA7C1256AE7003C214E-unsc-ang-12oct.pdf

So........................check out all the corps under Javiar that may be outdated: http://ohuiginn.net/panama/person/JAVIER%20ADAN%20RIVERA%20FERNANDEZ

Maybe it worked something like this: http://www.panama-guide.com/article.php/20061121174807987

[-] -1 points by Builder (4202) 12 months ago

People have been locked up for the antisemitic rants I read on vets today's comments. Could be what we call a honeypot. A trap for the unwary kooks that like finding those just as kooky as they think they are.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

so . . . who has been arrested for antisemitic rants?

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[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

It could be. Then again, that's a pretty sloppy trail to leave.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

not only that - it tends to legitimize that very madness Boulder insists people are being arrested for.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

I know they can arrest you in other countries for it. Not here. The ACLU would nail 'em three ways to Sunday.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

And so as a honey pot it's useless. But for identifying those whose behavior might prove . . . . useful . . . and for marginalizing individuals searching for answers to . . . . magic tricks . . . it's perfect.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

I have been flipping back and forth between that. But, then why leave that much information on the net?

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

If any of it is accurate, I would presume the following - and keep in mind I haven't looked all that close at the site:

  1. other intel agencies will likely know a great deal more about how we operate than the general public, and they could release what ever they want to release for whatever reason they want to release it. I think the W88 plans that arrived by Chinese national at a U.S. embassy is a fine example.
  2. an American who somehow in the course of their lives bumps into some of this information, or information that is related, and is mobbed into a state of marginalization, will, upon running across that site, or one like it, recognize what ever information they can already confirm, and that in their mind will lend legitimacy to all of the other nonsense. In a state of nervousness and agitation they may be convinced to pick up some of that information, hold it up high, and where that information does not fit reality, the mass of humanity will turn away and snicker, thus rendering any other claims the subject may make, meaningless.
  3. the larger the mythology surrounding those marginalized, the more intimidating it becomes to average citizens - and this has a variety of utilities, which generally may fall into a few categories, including: a nervous population is easier to control; a nervous population is more likely to spend money on programs designed to address the proposed sources of their nervousness.

I'm sure the bright boys have thought of several other uses that haven't yet occurred to me. But you know, they've been at it for over 40 years.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

Well, we had lots o' cash and several funds behind a huge anti-Muslim campaign from right wing groups and it may also not be too far off for that same lots o' cash and several funds backing the same thing. Slap a bunch of veteran stuff up and no one would question it.

But, you're more than likely right.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

A lot of stuff has gone from DoD to the private sector. the CIA even farmed out some of their terrorist interrogations - to a pair of fools on the west coast. Some things tend to lead one to suspect they KNOW things have gone way too far, they're just having too much fun to back away.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

What did I miss on the west coast?

Some things tend to lead one to suspect they KNOW things have gone way too far, they're just having too much fun to back away

I seem to have to problem seeing that in the past but I need to think about it in the present. Mayhap it's their new normal.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20601) from South Burlington, VT 12 months ago

I had a link, I'm sure. I read a profile somewhere on two of the guys involved, it might have been in Time or Newsweek, and they were both from the Seattle area.

I can't find it now - but I googled this, and it isn't very specific:

This spins it as a staffing issue. The article I read awhile ago clearly threw two of their contractors under the bus - insisting they weren't even qualified.

Here is one that is related:

and this article clearly indicates they weren't thrown under the bus at all - it's these two guys, I'm sure of it. But anyway, the other article I had read questioned whether these two guys were qualified at all - and the legal fee issue may explain the whole intent behind subcontracting this stuff in the first place.

Or maybe it really is staffing issues.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (21785) 12 months ago

Ok, I remember. Propublica had an article on them.

enhanced interrogation