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Forum Post: When you believe they're the same, and not really different

Posted 8 years ago on April 7, 2013, 12:21 p.m. EST by windyacres (1197)
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I had a long political discussion last night with a staunch republican. It reminded me of the world I was a part of until 2008, when I woke up completely after the financial crash, and how it was handled.

Most of these repubs have normal intelligience, and they very strongly believe corruption is taking place in our government. That agrees with most everyone. They are aware of the layers of, "middlemen", "cronies", etc. that their tax dollars go through before it gets to the needy. They believe it is ridiculus for a government to continue spending more until these cronies/ middlemen are removed. They insist on this! They don't believe these middlemen are needed and want changes in the process of politics. They believe they are just as compassionate for the poor, but that the money for the needy come from these cronies/middlemen, instead of more taxes.

They believe the repub approach is better than the dems approach to the same problem. Obviously, the dems disagree on how to approach this problem.

THE COMMON problem is that both believe in government corruption and believe it's so extensive that it could lead to a collapse.

Recognizing that banks and large corps represents as much of our government as the politicians is a must wake up moment, repubs are behind on this aspect.

Recognizing that we only have one poliitical party in this country is another wake up moment. It seems that dems and repubs are equally asleep about this issue

In the early months of this year, we have experienced a terrible tax on the poor, with the payroll tax going back to previous levels. This from the government that made a big deal out of the extra $40 a month being so significant to so many just last summer.

We experienced gasoline prices going up 36 days in a row. Finally coming down some.

We have experienced austerity measures, (Sequester).

Now our president is proposing cuts to Social Security. Will this wake anyone?

There are many other bad signs concerning potential trade agreements and even the people the president selects to help in his administration.

The repub I argued with last night doesn't consider large corps as part of the problem, the government is the problem, and the dems are stupid for not recognizing that the money for the needy should be available, but is being siphoned off by the cronies/middlemen.

Accept it, who wins between the R's and D's in 2014 and 2016 doesn't matter. Something else must matter.

Forget Partisan, Prevent Fascism.



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[-] 2 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 8 years ago

Isn't deception and conning really just lying?

After cheating as hard as any Citizens United, Democracy-Hating, 1%-Worshiping party-turned-CULT could ~ without a military coup ~ AND STILL LOSING: RepubliCons have doubled down on obstruction and sabotage of any and every attempt by Dems to fix the problems and carnage RepubliCons have caused, and any and every attempt by Dems to proceed with progress. Denying the American people their democratic choice of policies and Dems of any kind governing progress. And your "conclusion" is that "Both Parties are the Same," and that we should disbelieve our own eyes and ears and just "accept it?"

And the richest part of all, you offer no alternative. Just do nothing. Let's see, who would profit the most from doing nothing, or nothing involving American democracy?? The 1%!!

Hey everybody, the answer to 1% tyranny and the sabotage of our means of defeating them, democracy, is: SURRENDER!!

And I'll bet you sleep just fine with your lying, conning and deceiving self, don't you?

[-] -1 points by windyacres (1197) 8 years ago

I am very disappointed that you conclude that, "the answer to 1% tyranny and the sabotage of our means of defeating them, democracy, is: SURRENDER!!". If you were able to read what I wrote and have any ounce of doubt about whether I was for surrender or not, that hurts.

Why don't we just convince more people to be democrats and we will be just fine! It's time to wake up now. Please watch the TED video linked below.

[-] -1 points by windyacres (1197) 8 years ago

This TED video is a classic must see.