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Forum Post: What’s Behind The Arizona Dark Money Group Spending Millions In California?

Posted 9 years ago on Oct. 29, 2012, 5:22 p.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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A political group tied to a handful of mostly small-time Arizona Republicans has made a splash in California, by dropping $11 million into the fight over a pair of ballot initiatives in the Golden State.

The Arizona group, called Americans for Responsible Leadership (ARL), is registered as a 501(c)4 “social welfare” organization, which allows it to keep its donors secret. That, along with the $11 million donation it made on October 15 to a California group called the Small Business Action Committee, has attracted attention and criticism from California Democrats and progressive groups.

“Eleven million dollars doesn’t just drop out of the sky — this doesn’t pass the laugh test that suddenly this level of money appears in California from an organization with no track record here, without the knowledge of the donors who put that money into the organization,” Derek Cressman, Common Cause’s regional director, told The Bay Area News Group last week

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[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 9 years ago

On this Very Important matter 'GF', you really need to see the second half in particular (tho' I thoroughly recommend the whole film) of "CLIMATE OF DOUBT" (PBS / 'FRONTLINE') :

Thanx for bringing your light to this 'SisterFriday' ~*~

e tenebris, lux ...

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

One of the koch's many tentacles?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 years ago

I don't doubt it.

[-] 2 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 9 years ago

That people living outside a state can influence the elections of those living in the state. Democracy completely corrupted.

[-] -2 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 9 years ago

I KNOW! Like unions members from one state going to another to protest an election that wasn't their own! Or billionaire investors like

"George Soros and Hollywood mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg are backing Democratic candidates through a group called Majority PAC. Another group, Crossroads GPS, was organized by Republican strategist Karl Rove and billionaire brothers David and Charles Koch are backing another big player, Americans for Prosperity."


It's even worse when people living outside a COUNTRY can influence the elections of those living in another. Disgusting.

[-] 4 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 9 years ago

I agree. Both Reps and Dems are corrupt. That's why I will vote for neither.

[-] 1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 9 years ago


And yet Democrats have failed to do anything, even the simple things, that could have been done to fix the "dark money" problem. The Democratic Senate wouldn't pass the bill sent to them by the Democratic Congress in 2010 when there was no "Republican interference". Obama reversed his position on Super Pacs and embraced them himself. He hinted at an Executive Order, and then completely dropped the idea. His own website doesn't even have the standard protocols in place to prevent foreign donations from being accepted.


It's easy to conclude that the reason that Dems don't act to prevent this kind of stuff is for the exact same reason that Republicans don't....it affects THEIR FUNDING TOO. It only seems to come up when one party is worried about the other party, and it NEVER comes up close to an election.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 years ago

And I ask you-are you surprised?

[-] 1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 9 years ago

Lord no! Derek Cressman seems to be though.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 years ago

I don't think so. This is not about "even-Steven".

[-] 0 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 9 years ago

The title of the article suggests that even those who are reporting/investigating "don't know what's behind" this dark money. Yet you somehow know what it's NOT about......hummmmm...

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 9 years ago

Hmmmm........I find it odd that you spend much of your time trying to deflect this issue or the fact that if someone doesn't play your line of but.......but..........but..........we get something like.....hummmmm

Is this a place that you really wanna go?

[-] 1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 9 years ago

I'm not deflecting the issue. I even told you it didn't surprise me.

I found it odd that you seem to know what this is about, when there isn't a conclusive motive stated in the article. Did I miss it?