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Forum Post: The Self-Destruction of the 1 Percent

Posted 9 years ago on Oct. 14, 2012, 7:01 p.m. EST by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ
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[-] 6 points by agkaiser (2515) from Fredericksburg, TX 9 years ago

The rich think they'll move on from China to Indonesia and sell to Chinese consumers, after we're gone. So you see, they won't self destruct as they destroy we the consumers who made them rich by working for them and buying their products. Ultimately, since the Earth is a finite place, they will destroy all of life. That's not certain either. I don't think the Chinese will put up with their shit!

“In the 1980s, when the business schools were first starting to rave about the service economy, I asked a business major, “What?! Do you expect to just kick back and rule the empire?” That sarcasm was a response to his assertion, during a class discussion, that we could sell ideas and management in place of manufacturing; more jobs would be created here than were outsourced was part of the vision for the glorious future, currently being propagated. In hindsight: a twenty year plan that culminated in the 2007 collapse.”

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[-] 2 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 9 years ago

Poetic quote from that article: "Elites that have prospered from inclusive systems can be tempted to pull up the ladder they climbed to the top"

The Elites have taken too much. It was Nelson Rockerfeller who said "the poor are a great source of wealth" but now the poor have nothing left to spend, the consumer economy is dwindling, and only the Elites are deaf to the mutterings of a revolt.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 9 years ago

Wallmart workers strike:

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[-] 1 points by freewriterguy (882) 9 years ago

sounds familiar; I remember reading scripture that said, "he that digs a pit for his neighbor shall be the one to fall into the pit".


[-] 2 points by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 9 years ago

"...as the 1 percent pulls away from everyone else and pursues an economic, political and social agenda that will increase that gap even further — ultimately destroying the open system that made America rich and allowed its 1 percent to thrive in the first place....Meanwhile, of the 400 richest taxpayers in 2009, 6 paid no federal income tax at all, and 27 paid 10 percent or less. None paid more than 35 percent. " CHRYSTIA FREELAND



[-] 1 points by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 9 years ago

Many can't agree on a solution.

Jonathan Haidt explains how conservatives and liberals view fairness differently

Read more: http://occupywallst.org/forum/romney-obama-and-the-new-culture-war-over-fairness/


[-] 1 points by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 9 years ago

So, with out wars of words, and getting beyond "blaming"

how do as a country go about this?



[-] 1 points by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 9 years ago

who is going to do the prosecuting?

local courts.

And how will that lead to a new more egalitarian system?

Obama chose to sweep issues under the carpet.Republicans won't open any worm cans.

Some countries have found the need for political amnesty, after a big change, so they could move forward, like after a union has a strike, there can be an amnesty clause, so the parties can move forward and work again effectively without repercusions


[-] 1 points by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 9 years ago

so it is not going to happen within the current power structure, unless as you say, there are some new local prosecutors, who wish to put themselves up as "martyrs", upsetting both sides of the political dichotomy.

and as time goes on, it is not likely to happen

unless "the people" bring up class-action suits?


[-] 1 points by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 9 years ago

sounds like it could be a course of action.

do we have a second?

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2515) from Fredericksburg, TX 9 years ago


  • the practice of disinformation which has become rampant

The specious reasoning of the 90% and most of the 9% was cultivated by constant repetition of the 'disinformation.' I've called it thought conditioning or conditioned responses of the mind.

  • the extraction of wealth from the economy - which is the source of the pressure to privatize social security

The same process of conditioning blinds the wage slaves and victims of the fraud of finance to the nature of the economic system that threatens our existence in service to the rich.

  • our economic theories themselves

The same as the previous.

The only thing I see to do at this time is what I've been trying to do for more than twenty years: repeat the truth . . . over and over and over again, until the fools awaken.

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[-] 1 points by gsw (3400) from Woodbridge Township, NJ 9 years ago

I agree with what you say:

this is cultural values, education.

we need a way as a society to explore these issues.

There is not a means in which to do that in our current system.