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Forum Post: The Real, Naked Truth that Partisan Hacks Dont want you 2 Know!!!!!!

Posted 10 years ago on April 30, 2012, 5:43 p.m. EST by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL
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Courtesy of a very smart poster on this board:

This is something all you die hard Republican and Democrat voters dont want to realize- while you have been voting for corporate candidates, there are better options available...

[-] 2 points by gnomunny (2794) 17 minutes ago The following figures are based on numbers from the USA Today article and US Census figures.

According to USA Today, there are 42 million registered Democrats, 30 million registered Republicans, and 24 million registered Independents. That's a total of 96 million registered voters.

According to the latest census numbers, there are 229.7 million people of voting age in the US, meaning there are 133 million unregistered people of voting age.

The USA Today figures work out to 43.75% registered Dem's, 31.25% registered Rep's, and 25% registered Ind's.

If you apply those percentages to the unregistered voters (this assumes if they were to register, the same percentages would probably apply), this works out to 58.2 million unregistered potential Dem's, 41.5 million unregistered potential Rep's, and 33.3 million unregistered potential Ind's.

Let's assume the Republicans were a lost cause in this scenario, due to their conservative views. The number of unregistered potential Dem's plus the unregistered potential Ind's is 91.4 million unregistered. At the 1/3rd, 1/3rd. 1/3rd split you mention below, that leaves 60 million unregistered that might be persuaded to vote. Forget the last 1/3rd, those are the one's that simply don't care, so they probably won't be voting no matter what.

If half the registered Ind's got behind a single candidate = 12 million voting for Independent candidate 'A.' If one out of ten registered Dem's (those most disgusted with Obama) could get on board = 4.2 million "converts." That's 16.2 million voting for Independent candidate'A.'

Now we have 37.8 million Dem's voting for Obama (42 mil - 4.2 mil.) And . . . . . . . . 16.2 million voting for Ind' candidate 'A.' And . . . . . . . . 60.0 million unregistered potential voters.

Just half the Ind's and one out of ten Dem converts voting for Ind candidate 'A' leaves a 21.6 million voter deficit for Candidate 'A' to tie Obama.

If one out of five disgusted Dem's converted, it leaves a deficit of 17.4 million voters.

There's still 12 million registered Independents up for grabs. There's still 60 million unregistered potential votes up for grabs.

The Ind's would need 17.4 million votes out of a potential pool of 72 million people of voting age.

This scenario completely ignores any potential Republican converts.

The numbers are there. They're to be found in the 66 million registered Dem's and Ind's and the 60 million unregistered potential voters.

If the 42 million registered Dem's all voted for Obama, that represents only 18.3% of all Americans of voting age and above. In other words, Obama will be elected although only 18.3% of all voters want him.

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[-] 1 points by PeterKropotkin (1050) from Oakland, CA 10 years ago

Excellent post. Unfortunately I don't think you'll be able to draw any of them into an intelligent conversation about it. The sad fact is they think the democrats are the solution. Fortunately they don't represent the bulk of the occupy movement.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Trolls read this: "Fortunately they don't represent the bulk of the occupy movement"

These hacks really think that voting out Republicans (or voting our Dems on the other side) ISNT exxactly how this entire thing was made.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

Memo to old, tired, worn out D and R lifetime voters:

We represent the central concept of this entire thing- REAL CHANGE, CHANGE THE SYSTEMS. If any of you ever hang at an occupy, you would see this.

You contribute nothing to the countless posts that look for brainstorming and ideas on how to do that.

You only come in with cute little names for Republicans, and if you have ever been on a conservative site, you will see plenty of idiot republicans with cute little names for democrats. Your a media pawn, and nothing will EVER change as long as blindly loyal people like you continue to dominate the conversation. Times are changing, and one of our biggest hurdles is beating the media pundits like you. Your record proves your positions, and your position is keep falling for a divided, 2 party diversion. Just like every other gov does.

You wont get banned, because you arent too passionate about it to lose your temper, but you certainly wont ever be responsible for bringing about change.

That will be your legacy- champion of tired, old ways that gots us in this mess to begin with. Its played out. Youre so far in last you think youre in first.

[-] 1 points by hchc (3297) from Tampa, FL 10 years ago

The numbers are there. The desire of the people is there. So why no serious solutions?

Go read "Grand Illusion" by Theresa Amato, Nader's campaign manager. You get a good glimpse into the corrupted and evil, totally anti-democratic shit the two parties do to subvert anyone who wants a shot.