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Forum Post: The Folly of Humankind

Posted 8 years ago on Oct. 11, 2012, 5:56 p.m. EST by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC
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"Blame anything or anyone except themselves" because they are unable or unwilling to see beyond the story they have created for themselves.

Exposing this phenomenon is difficult to put into terms the perpetrators can understand, or that they cannot deny. I found two:

Dr. Gabor Matte speech at a Rio medical conference on addiction:


And, though I am not finished it, a book titled "Ismael" by Daniel Quinn, 1992. [no, it isn't about Islam, "Ismael" is a telepathic gorrilla]

And then, synchronistically, my neighbor's experiment with backyard chickens was okay until she got ROOSTERS that are driving everyone nuts with their crowing all day... and when informed of this she blamed the neighbor here, a great guy, because he smokes marijuana and the chicken lady assumes he sells it, which he doesn't.

"Blame the drug dealers for everything and we can just continue to plummet towards extinction" seems to be the message - see the video, 20 min.



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[-] 1 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 8 years ago

Thats not true!! How many do YOU know? Besides, Prohibitionists do more harm than drugs do, and corporate polluters are killing the world - did you watch the video?


[-] 1 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 8 years ago

That story is what most people believe about our society too, "The American Dream" is all you need to know, now go to work, don't worry, don't think about it. But it could not be sustained, now it is falling apart, but we all believed it didn't we? Or... its like the Official story of 9/11 where we mainstream media started telling it within 30 minutes of the 2nd crash, and kept telling it, and most people nodded and said "ya, thats what happened". It was a lie. It didn't happen like that. And notice how believers get angry when the Official Story is challeneged - they are angry not at the subject matter but because they WANT to believe.

I think I didn't do a great job of writing up a topic like this, the book and the video helps a lot, but I understand, people ask us to watch vids and they turn out to be just crap.

Anyway, thanks for your interest, I will keep trying.

[-] -1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 8 years ago

Charles Darwin once noted, “Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge.”

Dunning-Kruger Effect.

"The skills needed to produce logically sound arguments, for instance, are the same skills that are necessary to recognize when a logically sound argument has been made. Thus, if people lack the skills to produce correct answers, they are also cursed with an inability to know when their answers, or anyone else's, are right or wrong. They cannot recognize their responses as mistaken, or other people's responses as superior to their own."

I don't blame people who don't deserve actual blame. And I admit to and accept full responsibility for my actions that are blameworthy.

“One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision.” – Bertrand Russell

[-] 2 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 8 years ago

Well the big finale point he was making was that the powerfull and wealthy do what they do - and it is an addiction [they don't need the money], they allready rich] - to fill the emptiness in their hearts, it makes them feel better to be wanted or needed [just like the Dr. admits is his own addiction] But whereas drug addicts filling their emptiness with chemicals might sometimes hurt themselves, the rich and powerfull's addiction is causing all the major problems in the world because they are in denial about the harm they do - pollution, global warming, crashing the economy - all are a result of them taking it too far, they "gotta have that next rush". ... and yet, it is the drug addicts that get scorn, and never more hatefilled than from the rich and powerfull

[-] -1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 8 years ago

Could you link me to a professional analysis for why the powerful and wealthy "do what they do" (to fill the emptiness in their hearts)??? Surely before you started making such horrific accusations about an entire group of people you DID demand proof of them...

Of course before such a study would be conducted, someone would actually have to PROVE that ALL of the powerful and wealthy actually DO all of the things you accuse them of doing in the first place.

Seems like someone is hatefilled alright....are you rich and powerful?

[-] 1 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 8 years ago

Very thoughtfull... I was inspired by Dr. Matte's video, but I don't have links to support what he says. The idea of "the lamp within" being a better way to heal our emptiness than greedily despoiling the earth to the point of causing more suffering should be something the wealthy could consider.

I also thank you for pointing out that it appears I do have some negative feelings towards the rich and powerfull because I live in poverty due to being hit by a wealthy drunk driver who "got away with it" [I got nothing for my injuries]. It is a sore I must heal myself, the lamp within... this may be why I posted it, knowing something would come back to force me to see it. Thank you

[-] 1 points by BetsyRoss (-744) 8 years ago

I am terribly sorry to hear about your accident and even more to hear that someone committed a crime and wasn't forced to pay for it. No one deserves to be the victim of such a thing, but I'm sure you realize that it wasn't his "wealth" that caused your injuries, it was his drinking and then driving and such behavior can afflict the poor and middle class just as much as it does the rich.

Hatred and envy are powerful addictions on their own-and they are free to indulge in so we can literally drug ourselves with them uninhibited and easily. I have had many hard, painful things happen in my life, but one of the most profound things I ever heard changed my life for the better. It was that being "unforgiving" is like drinking poison and then waiting for your enemy to die.

How amazing it was to realize that "letting go" of all that anger and bitterness was under my control, and mine alone. There was no way to go "back in time" and reverse the things that happened to me, that was over and done. But carrying them around in an emotional backpack as if to prove to the world I had a reason to be miserable was only hurting ME. It didn't make my "enemy" suffer at all. He/she/they were completely oblivious to my anger and suffering. I was keeping a fresh and open wound in my own heart BY CHOICE.

I chose not to anymore. Money has no power to make "poor people" any happier than it does rich people. Money is paper. And while perhaps rich people stuff their loneliness and pain with money-tell me what do the poor use? Hatred is NOT the only choice you have my friend.

That said...is there anything someone like myself can do, or could do to help you in your time of need? Message me if you can think of something, I'll do all I can if I can. :-)

[-] 1 points by Karlin (350) from Nelson, BC 8 years ago

Well, thats what I was saying - you allready did. I can forgive the guy. Even if physical injuries are permanent, the hostility is by choice...Seems you figured this out long ago.

[-] 0 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

Chickens have an acute sense of smell and any intrusion definitely gets their crow.

[-] -1 points by yobstreet (-575) 8 years ago

What Gabor Maté does not tell us is that everybody - everybody - is addicted to something.

Power has long been a minor aside for me as well. Maté is correct - wealth is not power - and he is also correct to state that we must examine it from the bottom up rather than from the top down; power as the ability to influence one's own world exists within us all.

I can't find any point of disagreement here, only a continued desire to explore more; I liked this video.