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Forum Post: terrorist bombers indentity shall be chosen by the government

Posted 9 years ago on April 16, 2013, 12:23 a.m. EST by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA
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everyone starts to doubt the government and demand transparency,

bombs go off in Boston.

Nothing like terror to get the people in line

Afghan children 'killed by Nato air strike in Shigal'

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[-] 1 points by OccNoVi (415) 9 years ago

Funny. That is a parody of rightie paranoia, eh ???

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

use the terror from a terrorist incident to increase government control

[-] 1 points by securityguy (4) 9 years ago

WARNING: Laws Being Written To ScrewYou

Message at //i.imgur.com/g7leBHW.png

I work on a security commission and I’ve just received word to start on a campaign we’ve been working on for the last two months and now it all makes sense.

I’ll keep it as short can I can

They’re going to pin this event on a male late teens to early 20s and say he did it because he’s unstable.

They are going to find firearms and a NRA book in his home. They are going to to say he used reloading powder for the explosion and that reloading powder shouldn’t be for sale to the public. They are then going to say that because the powder in ammunition can be used for explosions that the number of rounds you can buy should be limited and taxed to help pay for these events.

I can’t do anything or I’ll lose my job and possibly face criminals charges. Please don’t let them get away with it. They won’t find the suspect till later this week and the raid is issued to occur on Friday. This was a staged event. The people hurt are real but the event was planned. Don’t let them hurt our rights.

I’m at work so I used a copy of a picture from another thread. Also please don’t mention me. It will seriously hurt me.

[-] 0 points by quantumystic (1710) from Memphis, TN 9 years ago

wow the conspiracy machine is running full speed i see. stop already you discredit real conspiracies when you lie and cook up half baked scenarios.

[-] -2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

the US sells 40% of all international weapons

the Government won't move against those companies interests in selling ammunition

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

the US government makes it legal to manufacture and sell guns.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

yes

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

okay

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

Another thread on the subject

very serious news

two bomb explosions near the finish line of the Boston Marathon two dead + 23 serious injuries

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[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

we'll see

let's hope the government doesn't use this as a reason to bomb other countries

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

All that is required is identification, and then provocation, of such individuals. Much less risk involved.

that's a little more involved than just spinning a random events

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

looks like that poster reads my work

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[-] 1 points by WSmith (2698) from Cornelius, OR 9 years ago

He MH, documents/records all posts MH deems documentable/recordworthy in a huge file(s). He may or may not get paid for it. See if you can find out.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

[-] 0 points by eviltrillionaire (-123) 2 days ago

TL ; DR

Brevity, not a book.

A card game that amends it rules on the cards

I am seeking the clarify the game through ordering and clarify that written rules

Oddly, a similar tactic should be applied to government law

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

think the govt did it?

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

can't say

but the FBI investigator said that certain information may not be released to protect individuals

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

who would they be looking to protect?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

themselves

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

from their lies? from their treason?

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

This country was built on treason.

God save the king!

[-] 0 points by justiceforzim (-17) 9 years ago

Bomb other countries, or institute a ban on pressure cookers. Yup, background checks in the cookery aisle.

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

Fire Anti muslim hater

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Please sign & spread

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

You think escalations in Syria, & Mali or will they start on Iran & N Korea?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

there isnt enough oil in Mali to justify a war. Iran on the other hand......

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

So you think we are gonna go to war (invade) Iran? When? . The neocons have been pressuring to do just that for a couple of years.

I'm hoping we continue successfully resisting that war mongering pressure.

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

War hasn't been declared since 1941, a police action is what any conflict would likely be called. Bringing civilization to the savages.

I'm hoping that congress will defund the military.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

So you think we are gonna go to war (invade) Iran? When? . The neocons have been pressuring to do just that for a couple of years.

I'm hoping we continue successfully resisting that war mongering pressure.

Do you?

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

I'm hoping that the American populace makes it clear to the oligarchs that violence is always wrong and will solve nothing. Unfortunately I think most Americans are pro military and would support a war.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

Well then we must agitate all pols (and people) to resist the neocon war mongering.

Agreed?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

And American militarism.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

Of course. End the phoney war on terror, repeal AUMF.

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

And patriot.

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

You mean patriot act?

[-] 1 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

Yes, it wouldn't let me do caps lock.

[-] 0 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

all propaganda seems to be focused on North Korea

[-] -1 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

True. I predict no war in North Korea, None in Iran, No US expansion in Syria, & no US escalation in Mali.

Maybe I should qualify my comments by saying I prefer we not engage in any more war.

[-] 3 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

war is a waste of resources for all involved

[-] 0 points by HCabret (-327) 9 years ago

and it is also extremely ineffective.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

And of life.

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

you would have let hitler continue instead of stopping him?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

did the US sell the germans weapons ?

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

you ask that question because you believe you have a " gotcha" answer". My question is,would you have let hitler continue his invasion of foreign countries and systematic murder of millions of non combatants?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

I just didn't want to have to look it up

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

you didnt answer my question.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

something about hilter like do I support him

no, I do not support killing

do you support killing ?

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

i do in self defense.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

As many as two unexploded bombs were also found near the end of the 26.2-mile course as part of what appeared to be a well-coordinated attack, but they were safely disarmed, according to a senior U.S. intelligence official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because of the continuing investigation.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/wireStory/explosions-boston-marathon-finish-line-18960342#.UWzWaErZXTo

bombs not going off is well coordinated ?

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 9 years ago

Reminds me of the words used against North Korea. The Truth is an Escalation of North Korean Rhetoric was to be expected. And the Truth is that the US is often invoking Blockades, Trade Blockage, Military Exercises, and escalating Rhetoric all in a way that is self serving at minimum ... and acts of war at the maximum.

Did we really need to drop dummy bombs on an Island near North Korea at a time when we could have been diplomatic. Like George Bushes War in Iraq ... He made up his mind, established a program of propaganda or Rhetoric ... then Invaded and started an 8 year war and period of instability.

Public Messages today ... coming out of Washington are all about Fear and Controlling the Message to support the Federal Government programs of DHS, NSA, CIA, or whatever. The Gun Control Rhetoric is way out of control ... the Legal Gun buyers are not the problem at all, but Gun Legislation fits a plan or a Goal. And there are some political points to make to help future elections. I admit though it does seem like a standard progressive goal....

SO, Planned Coordinated Attack... Nope, Good Point. Good Catch. I haven't really read the stories yet. But we know when a Politician talks ... he is serving himself first, and his party second, and larger political goals such as supporting his Office or Agency Mission which can always use higher funding and additional Hires.

How do we know when a politician is telling the truth? How do we know when Rush Limbaugh is telling the Truth? If the government provides transparency, openness, and allows full access to alternative media. And you can never tell when Rush or Hannity are telling the truth ... you can just be sure they will twist the narrative to help their career or "Think Tanks".

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

I don't think we know much about why the bombs happened

though I think Zen is suggesting random madness

either way people will use this as an opportunity to direct minds and actions

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 9 years ago

TPTB will pick an Enemy and fit the findings to the target.

Propaganda and Manipulation is sure to follow. Watch your emotions and I'll try to watch mine. Demand Transparency and Top Terrorist Officials on location be Fired.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

they'll have to find another fake job like the rest of us

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

the police later said they did not detonate any other bombs,..said they never existed even though people said they heard that explosion . the saudi that was arrested in boston was later let go, his name is abdul rahman ali al-harbi. he has family members in gitmo. obama had an unschedueled meeting with the saudi foreign minister and now al-harbi is being deported for" security reasons" . cover up in progress.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

.even though another bomb was set off by the bomb squad ( and heard by people ) the story about other bombs was revised to say there were no ther bombs. so which is correct?

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

I venture a guess. The bomb squad members were nervous, of course they should be, wouldn't you have been if your life were on the line? The first reaction of the authorities would be to disburse the people to minimize any potential serial damages from additional bombs and the people not surprisingly also ran for their lives, leaving many suspicious things behind. What would the bomb squad do with suspicious things? Blow them up rather than finding out what they really are. There were probably more detonations but none that solicited additional explosions. There you have it. People did not lie. The authorities did not lie. There was massive confusion and blowing innocuous things up, I believe.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

the 3rd bomb ( some distance away) was found in less than an hour after the first 2 explosions.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Yes, it probably took some time to go through items left behind by the spectators.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

you miss what i said,....in less than 1 hour a third bomb was found,....thats very short amount of time considering the chaos that was going on. the 3rd bomb was not quite a distance away from the first 2.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Once the crowd has been disbursed, things left behind become much easier to find and the larger ones deemed to be a threat can be detonated just to make sure.

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

the 600 block of boylston street was where the 3rd bomb was found,............at 3: 53. how was it identified so fast?the first to blast were between 50 and 100 yards apart,..................600 boylston is further away, closer copley square.

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 9 years ago

If you Google "boston 3rd bomb" the results are all about the 3rd victim passing away. Nice to see that most people still get it and understand what's important here.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

you didnt search deep enough,.............i found that too,............but there is time line that goes through the entire day,............. the 3rd bomb was detonated ar 3:53 p.m. search and you too will find it. try using these words,............was there a third bomb in boston.............. or go to www.heavy.com/news/2013/04/boston-marathon-bomb-explosion

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

I've heard this morning that both bombs went off

and no other bombs were found

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

sometime on monday it was reported that a 3rd bomb had been found and detonatedat 3:53 by the boston bomb squad. that 3rd bomb was quite a bit away ( 600 block of boylston street) from the two bombs that went off,....how were they able to find it so quickly? people in the area said they heard the noise from that detonation. now that story has been scrubbed. after the first bomb went off the boston police said " this is just a bomb drill",............ why would they say that? there were bomb sniffing dogs on the scene for most of the day, yet they were not able to pick up a scent .

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

It is not good enough to have bomb-sniffing dogs on the scene. Their coverage is limited (the police needs to review the training materials used for their bomb-sniffing dogs) and people can come and go so bombs can move. What is really needed is a secured perimeter like what we have in airport terminals but that is unrealistic for a marathon race (26.2 miles long involving at least tens of thousands of people -- one suggestion is to secure the finish-line area for the hours that the winners and the maximal number of runners arrive to minimize the potential carnage and similarly the starting-line area).

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 9 years ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fog_of_war

This ain't the movies or CSI, and now with Twitter and Facebook broadcasting every thought at the speed of light, there's bound to be confusion. Take it all with a grain of salt and let the police do their job. Before you overreact to any information, remember poor Richard Jewell.

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

alastair stevenson, ( university of mobile coach) marathon participant, said publicly that there was an announcement telling people to stay calm and not be alarmed, this ( the bomb going off) was a training exercise.

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 9 years ago

And there goes the first mistake anyone has made in 2013. Seriously, in the past hour alone I've read that the suspect was dark skinned, then white skinned, then had been arrested, now nobody has been arrested. Take nothing you hear and read as gospel.

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

so, the people that were told that this was " a bomb drill' didnt hear it? the people that heard a 3rd explosion didnt hear it?

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 9 years ago

Who knows what they heard or didn't hear with all the chaos around them. A freaking bomb had just gone off.

Under the best of circumstances, eyewitnesses get things wrong. Remember the DC sniper and all the witnesses who swore they saw him in a white van?

http://www.policeone.com/news/55877-Sniper-White-Van-Was-Red-Herring/

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

cops are not paid to " walk away".

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 9 years ago

The good ones still instinctively duck their heads when a bomb goes off.

What's the point of this thread anyway? I'm just trying to debunk an armchair quarterback who seems to know exactly what happened even though he was sitting comfortably, miles away. Can someone sum up? I'm not reading all of this.

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

the man said that he heard announcments after the blast that it was a just a bomb exercise.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Sometimes the authorities had to disseminate white lies to avoid causing a stampede that may hurt even more people. In general, they try to maintain order to a fault until they have confirmed that it was not a bomb exercise. The smoke after the first bomb exploded was similar to that coming from fireworks so the explosive used was not really war-grade explosive material -- a bomb exercise was somewhat plausible until the smoke cleared to reveal injured and killed people en masse.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

it wasnt just smoke,there was a fireball.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Perhaps the person saying that it was just a bomb exercise did not see the fireball. It makes sense to take it immediately as a bomb if the explosion occurred so close to the crowd because the authorities still have some decency not to do that deliberately, I believe.

[-] 0 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

anyone in the vicinity could not miss the sight of the fireball.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 9 years ago

Most likely as you have said.

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 9 years ago

Not unless they were hitting the deck and covering their heads after hearing a freaking explosion nearby. In real life, people don't casually walk away from explosions in slow motion like they do on the big screen. It's a bit of a stressful situation.

[-] -1 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 9 years ago

Here's the most accurate headline so far

April 17, 2013 No One Knows What The Hell Is Going On In Boston —Ace

[-] -1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

unlike benghazi, this was all on t.v. and the witnesses are in this country. the saudi national that was picked up ( his apartment was raided , plastic bags containg who knows what were taken out ) and later released. the man is part of a known saudi terrorist family , with many members in gitmo. a third bomb was report over the police radio, detonated and then that story was redacted by the police. official stories, lies, more official stories, more lies.

[-] 0 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

So why do you think there is a coverup goin on?

[-] 1 points by eterna (-93) from Montauk, NY 9 years ago

6 months since benghazi and the govt is still stonewalling. no one is being allowed to talk to/question the survivors. why?

[-] 1 points by inclusionman (7064) 9 years ago

Beats me. I thought you knew.

Why do you think they are covering up this Boston bombing?, And who exactly are you suggesting is covering it up.?

[-] 0 points by freakzilla3 (-75) 9 years ago

They will figure it all out. Christ, there's a Reddit page with some many crowd photos the event is practically animated. Reminds me of this (we need some humor)

http://www.theonion.com/video/police-slog-through-40000-insipid-party-pics-to-fi,14337/

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

Bombing People is a criminal act whether executed by a government or not

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 9 years ago

As opposed to drone strikes, which happen to ten pins in a bowling alley.

I think.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

drones use bombs

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 9 years ago

And guided missiles. Laser targetting. Geo-static satellite navigation. And they still kill thousands of innocent people, women and children included.

How does that happen? By accident, maybe?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

the weapons companies came to power by the economics of war

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 9 years ago

"Black Flags" fly at half mast?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

people not subdue by imaginary numbers of international banks

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 9 years ago

My inability to understand that comment has me overwhelmed with curiosity.

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 9 years ago

the peoples faith in the system is shifting

one way to bring them back in line is the scare them enough not question it

[-] 2 points by FawkesNews (1290) 9 years ago

Absolutely.

Cattle prods work on cattle. Not on a stampede. The people need to stampede.

[-] 1 points by Builder (4202) 9 years ago

Is there enough anger out there?

Consumers have been conditioned to react to stimulii.

[-] 1 points by FawkesNews (1290) 9 years ago

Not yet. Clearly.

When there is enough awareness, there will be enough anger. Until then... business as usual.