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Forum Post: Talons of Tyranny Still Tightening in Michigan

Posted 8 years ago on Dec. 2, 2013, 11:16 a.m. EST by shoozTroll (17632)
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As Movetoamend tries to lift CU from our nation, Michigan is busy making it an institution, with "fast tracked" legislation that allows the monied interests to double their "contributions", and do so while being further hidden from the public.

"Lansing — The Republican-controlled Legislature has put on a fast track legislation that could affect the upcoming statewide elections by making it more difficult to unseat incumbents, but some parts of the proposals are causing infighting among GOP conservatives.

When lawmakers return Tuesday from their holiday and deer-hunting break, they could give sitting elected officials more political capital by doubling the campaign contribution limits and lifting a ban on party caucus committees spending money defending incumbents in primaries.

A Senate-passed bill being fast-tracked to Gov. Rick Snyder’s desk also would provide legalized anonymity to donors of so-called “issue ads” that disparage candidates but don’t specifically tell voters whom to vote for.

The sweeping campaign finance legislation could be one of the most politically charged subjects lawmakers debate in the final weeks of 2013.

From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20131202/POLITICS02/312020016#ixzz2mKs0UCaW

As if requiring "rape insurance" wasn't bad enough.




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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Duopoly my ass.

This shit just passed, show me those on the other "side" that are doing anything like this.

"Michigan Republicans: Drunk with power, anti-women

As Amy and I have been writing about for quite some time now, Michigan Right to Life was able to gather enough signatures representing just 4.2% of Michigan voters to put a bill before the state legislature to force women to buy a special rider on their health insurance to cover abortions. They did this through an infrequently used device called the “indirect initiated state statute” which I describe in detail HERE.

Today, Republicans in the House and Senate passed the bill which now becomes law. It does not require the signature of Governor Rick Snyder who vetoed similar legislation last year because it does not make exceptions for cases of rape or incest. Because the new law does not make this exception, it has come to be known as the “Rape Insurance” bill. The ballot initiative, which is opposed by a majority of Michiganders, was deceptively titled the “Abortion Insurance Opt-Out Act”. This law doesn’t allow women to “opt out”. It FORCES women to opt in.


[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

Yep & stop sliding down the crack will ya ?!!! Your ass has two cheeks right ?!! Just like US Politricks !

No doubt there are massive differences on social issues at local, state and even national level on several issues between 'Butt-Shit-Crazy' Repugnant asswipes and well intentioned .. butt wet-liberal Democrap lambs who dare not bare their gums ('cause they got no teeth) at the Corporations, Banksters, The MIC or The SCOTUS (where the roots of so many US problems are).

We'll keep saying that the Democraps-On-The-Hill are way to the right of the vasst majority of decent Democrat and Independent voters and to some residual, misguided Republicans who still may have a beating, human heart, because that is the truth as most OWSers seem to see it imo.

You have got it going on in Michigan no doubt .. but only The 99% organising can ameliorate and resist that because The Dem Party Machine sold out the peeps at national and state level a long time ago and to ignore that fact & pretend it ain't so - is to continue to heroically but uselessly, piss in the wind in the hope that doing the same thing again will somehow yield different results and is being blind to the facts.

I really think that you'll gain from watching the following link and we will have to wait and see if you will make me regret commenting on your thread again :

''The War On Warren'' (by Democrats!), Social Security, Bat-Shit-Crazy Republicans and Libertarians with the compassion capacity of ravenous wolves (and whoTF is Jack Burkman ?) & other such strange 'Americanianisms', courtesy of Thom Hartmann's ''The BIG Picture''.

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[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

WTF was that??

Now you're literally quoting trolls, on butt related "humor"???

I'll not be holding my breath waiting for you to prove that duopoly bullshit..

So far NO ONE has, in spite of all the opportunity offered....

You pretend to know my community, while you continue to ignore your own.

Borrowing paradigms, from whoever seems to support you.



В мыльной опере взяла вашу душу.

[-] 3 points by shadz66 (19985) 8 years ago

''Duopoly'' & ''ass'' were your words and subconscious connection and not everyone who disagrees or doesn't precisely share your perspective is a ''troll''. You need not hold your breath and turn any bluer waiting for proof of ''that duopoly bullshit' ... as there can be NO proof for that you are psychologically disinclined or pathologically unable, to see & OWS' position is to both identify & oppose .. 'duopoly' !

It is very interesting that after my being on the forum for so long, that you consider that I'm 'pretending to know your community' - so, which community is that shooz ? Furthermore, I am aware what is going on in The UK tho' I do question the relevance of your attached link on this your thread and what evidence do you have that I 'continue to ignore my own' ? The 99% fight for social & economic justice is global btw !!

The distinct impression you are giving me is of a resentment that I dare to comment on matters in The USA. If that is the case, then that is quite revealing really and I won't bother translating your Russian I presume - just like I didn't bother translating your Hindi on another thread, but I do urge you to look at my Thom Hartmann link above and strongly recommend the Bill Moyers link to follow :

''Why are record numbers of Americans on food stamps? Because record numbers of Americans are in poverty. Why are people falling through the cracks? Because there are cracks to fall through. It is simply astonishing that in this rich nation more than 21 million Americans are still in need of full-time work, many of them running out of jobless benefits, while our financial class pockets record profits, spends lavishly on campaigns to secure a political order that serves its own interests, and demands that our political class push for further austerity. Meanwhile, roughly 46 million Americans live at or below the poverty line and, with the exception of Romania, no developed country has a higher percent of kids in poverty than we do.''

Consider, that the ''political class'' that Moyers refers to, does not just comprise of Republicans and try to reflect on the implications of that. This is OWS - here to speak truths and point to facts for The 99% that have been ignored for far too long. What do you think OWS' raison d'etre' is ? Why are you here ?!

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[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 8 years ago

so many real issues and I have to hear how the bipartisan is not happy with each other ?

[-] 1 points by davidhums (9) from New York, NY 8 years ago

There is no duopoly. Republicans and democrats are two very similar faces of the same coin. The government is a monopoly.

[-] -2 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Actually no.

It was exactly from a troll.


I'll hold my breath while you explain exactly and SUCCINCTLY (stress on purpose), how this legislation fits into that paradigm.

Your words did nothing to do that.

I won't burden you here with the full weight of the rest of the story, as you have proven either disinterest or a lack of concern for your own community.

So here's your opportunity to prove this oft repeated and never completely proven theory.

Qo' vay' 'eH, Hoch doesn't nIv'e', 'ej 'oH je repeatedly Del.

[-] -3 points by davidhums (9) from New York, NY 8 years ago

GirlFriday seems the one obsessed with asses.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 8 years ago

I have zero problems kicking you in the teeth.


[-] 1 points by doctoroftruth (-4) from New York, NY 8 years ago

Your ass has two cheeks right ?!! Just like US Politricks !

On the money!


[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 8 years ago

Yep, I saw that. But, you know..............it's a wedge issue.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Yeah, wimmin's don't need no "rights', they all lean "left", like NASCAR.

They gotta pay up for havin' one of those birth canals.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 8 years ago

Hahaha. Ya, but your missing the bigger picture here. Apparently, you have two cheeks.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

We're also one of the few major cities that still has two newspapers too.

Compare the similarities and the differences.

From the so called left, The Free Press.


Instances and examples of reality.

Now from the "right".


They call it a gift, though they don't mention it's a "gift" to the insurance "providers".

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 8 years ago

That is exactly what it amounts to. I'm not impressed with what is allegedly from the left, btw.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Like ignoring attacks on pensions, ignoring wimmin's rights, among other things (gun nuttery?), is necessary to support a belief in duopoly.

Still, I often find stark differences in the reporting of these two papers.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 8 years ago

There are stark differences to an extent. Then there are the tears and that really ticks me off.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

there will be a lot more of that when this POS legislation goes into effect.

Keep in mind that as of today, there is NO such rider in any particular policy.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

Rape Insurance, the rest of the story.

It's not a pretty story by any account.

Watch as they lie and wiggle about how it was passed, and what they think it does.


Aren't the wonders of tyranny grand?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 8 years ago

That rape insurance is the dumbest shit.

[-] 0 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

It's ALEC on steroids and be assured that if they get it instituted in Michigan, it will find it's way to the ALEC portfolio all over the nation.

The way they are doing it, is the slimiest thing of all.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 8 years ago

The way that they are doing it defies logic. But, like I said this is a wedge issue. I mean this is what these duopoly losers have been repeating.

There is a reason for that. If you pay attention to what is actually occurring then you might be able to stop it and they don't want that shit.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 8 years ago

It's a precursor to the "it's useless to vote" paradigm.

Just don't remind them of Seattle.

Or Lorain.

Let alone point out the right wing activism in Michigan.