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Forum Post: Kassam rocket fired into southern Israel from Gaza

Posted 8 years ago on Dec. 23, 2013, 9:57 a.m. EST by GirlFriday (17435)
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Security forces on Monday morning located the remains of a rocket fired from the Gaza Strip into southern Israel overnight.

The rocket was found in the Ashkelon Coast Regional Council after Code Red sirens were sounded in the area shortly after midnight on Sunday.

The projectile exploded near residential homes in the area.

No injuries or damage were reported in the attack. Read the rest here



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[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23590) 7 years ago

“Palestinian children deserve the same right to be free in their own land as Israeli children in their land." Says White House Chief of Staff, Dennis McDonough.

"White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough Says the Israeli Occupation 'Must End'"


And, John Kerry, Secretary of State warns that Israel could become an apartheid state. (I'd argue, of course, as would many, that it already is.)


Hmmm. My, my how things change.

[-] 5 points by lugano (1221) 7 years ago

"Israeli night raids on sleeping Palestinian children" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJKaP1NBAgM Such is Apartheid now in Israel/Palestine. Just as it was before in South Africa! Nutjobyahoo'd be proud. Thanks for links, mais plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose! = But the more that things change....

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23590) 7 years ago

To think that the U.S. government gives $3.1 billion each year to Israel to fund such absolute moral turpitude is beyond me. Only one other nation received more foreign aid from the U.S. and that would be Afghanistan.

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 7 years ago

$3.1B/year to Israel?! You sure about that? Have you got a link? Also fyi - ''The Roots of Netanyahu’s Electoral Victory: Colonial Expansion and a Fascist Ideology'' ------- http://petras.lahaine.org/?p=2027

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23590) 7 years ago

Yep, $3.1 billion per year to Israel so it can run an apartheid state.



"Israel has a population of approximately 7.8 million, or a million fewer than the state of New Jersey. It is among the world's most affluent nations, with a per capita income similar to that of the European Union. Israel's unemployment rate of 5.8% is better than America's 7.3%, and Israel's net trade, earnings, and payments is ranked 30th in the world while the US sits in last place at a dismal 193rd.

Yet, Israel receives more of America’s foreign aid budget than any other nation. The US has, in fact, given more aid to Israel than it has to all the countries of sub-Saharan Africa, Latin America, and the Caribbean combined—which have a total population of over a billion people."


"US pledges $3.1 billion in aid to Israel in 2014"

Funny how MSM tends to avoid talking about our transfer of wealth to Israel. Funny how most Americans have NO IDEA how they are funding Israel. Next time they threaten to cut food stamps and education, hey, maybe Americans wanna WAKE TF UP!

[-] 4 points by lugano (1221) 7 years ago

''A Conservative Estimate of Total Direct U.S. Aid to Israel: $108 Billion'' .. Compiled by Shirl McArthur, http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stat/114bill.html And that is a study from 2008 and so now out of date. Please also see - http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/01/us-provides-israel-weapons-used-on-gaza/

Apparently Nutjobyahoo wants the Iran deal to be contingent on Iran's recognition of Israel! So does he accept Palestine's ''right to exist''? No,he does not and hubris and hypocrisy are very unattractive traits.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23590) 6 years ago

Americans are fully unaware of how much money they spend supporting Israel. Apparently, many Israelis are unaware as well. That kind of financing with lack of knowledge of it, can really mess with people's heads, hubris, elitism and the like. It's not okay to think you built your nation with your own hands if in fact it was paid for by another nation. Let's quit financing apartheid.

[-] 3 points by lugano (1221) 6 years ago

Hmmm. "If (Only) Americans Knew" perhaps?!

So consider - http://www.ifamericansknew.org/

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

There are other aids funneled through military and commercial "mutual" supports. If the U.S. gives aids to Pakistan and it gives money to the Mujahideen, does it count as U.S. support of the Mujahideen? If Pakistan supported the Taliban of Afghanistan and that Taliban supported al Qaida, did the U.S. really fund al-Qaida's 9/11/2001 attack on the U.S. homeland?

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23590) 6 years ago

The money speaks for itself and to whom it goes. As a nation we can funnel our money elsewhere, to research and development of resources that don't require fossil fuels. We can refuse to fund and support nations that commit apartheid and other human rights violations.

We can change if we can overthrow the 1% and their consistent desire for profit over all that is right.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

Research and development do not guarantee the ability to replace fossil fuels which still support the bulk of energy production and consumption. Refusal to fund and support Israel gets congressional representatives fired so it seldom happens, except to loose cannons.

Our President could not even stop the guarantee (via Congressional support) of the loan to Israel to build more Jewish settlements on Palestinian land. It is no coincidence that our President is much like toilet tissue paper to the world. My rant is that the outcome does not offer enough contrast to see what is paper and what is not. I suppose that "The Twilight Zone's(NickInfante1992: 'There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone.')" geoduck has sufficient gastric capacity to contain the cannabis-laced effluent from Capitol Hill, Seattle.

[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (23590) 6 years ago

Nothing is inevitable, not fossil fuels, not American support for an apartheid state. The power ultimately lays with the people. They can either wake up or stay asleep. I think they are beginning to wake up.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 6 years ago

You are correct, of course. Germany has already gone far on the path to significant renewable energy usage although it has less sun due to its high lattitude, little desert, and less wind than midwestern and western states.

The U.S. has huge areas of desert in the southwest such as Arizona, New Mexico, Nevada, and California. Just covering up Arizona alone with solar panels will likely supply enough electricity for all of the U.S. In addition, there are the really sparsely populated (too windy and too much "big sky" contributed to not many people wanting to live there) great plains and mountain states and seaside states which have huge amount of wind for generating electricity.

It is more a matter of national will than the lack of resources that is holding back the U.S. from significant usage of renewable energy. Wind energy from North Dakota, for example, cannot reach Chicago because the new electricity transmission lines would have crossed coal-producing states which blocked them. That will definitely change because coal for electricity generation will become unacceptable and is non-competitive with fracked gas electricity generation.

It looks like gas killing coal plus the sun and wind can provide sufficient energy for the U.S. as its ~100 nuclear power plants are shut down. The gas can provide power when the intermittent ones from the sun and wind are not working. The seaside wind energy can power cities nearby. Efficiency improvements locally created or imported from Germany will provide equivalent energy sources by annulling their necessity.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 6 years ago

Apparently, many Israelis are unaware as well.

we only support the isreal military ?

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (23590) 6 years ago

No, not talking about just their military, talking about foreign aid.

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

550+ injured & 88 Dead as of 3pm EST on 10th July,'14 in Gaza & still not a fkn peep from our resident Likudnik Gatekeepers, Hasbara Stooges and 'Zionism-Uber-Alles' shills, who are also big DNC lovers !!!

Oh and btw in the interests of ''fairness'', 2 Israeli's have been slightly hurt due to those militarily utterly ineffectual ''glorified fireworks'' that those pesky Palestinians fire in desperate resistance. With at least 12 people dead in the West Bank after those 3 Israeli kids were abducted and murdered by persons as yet unknown, I'm very sure that collective punishment is a War Crime. 100 dead and raising, is exactly such a International War Crime but we here can just stick to more self-referential navel gazing perhaps :

e tenebris, lux ?

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

Save it. As bad as you want it, you can't have it.

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

''Gaza crisis : Death toll from Israeli strikes 'hits 100''' (in just 4 days of being attacked with modern {mostly US produced ?} munitions from air, land and sea and with many hundreds injured and maimed) :

In the continued interest of 'fairness' it should be added that 8 more Israelis have been injured as a result of those pesky li'l Palestinians and their continued refusal to just roll over and disappear, without offering any resistance in the land of their (somewhat more ancient) ancestors. 'David & Goliath' at all, anyone ? So, whatever it is that you might think that I may ''want'' - it's all just ''blurred lines'' to you though, right ?

Still recommending that truth-out.org link with Amy Goodman to you though - but only IF u can hack it !!

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

It's not a question of hacking it, hon. Learn how to converse in English or do not speak to me. You operate like a bot and I'm not the least bit interested in your current views of the middle east. Frankly, you disgust me.

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

''Disgust'' ?!!! Really ?!! That's a bit viscerally emotional don't you think ?! Although my English has never been an issue before, I kinda do think it's ''a question of hacking'' it, when it comes to the 'to and fro' and you don't really regard this as 'conversing' do you ? This isn't FcBk or a chat room - we're not looking for company and conversation - are we ? Furthermore, I can assure you that I'm not ''a bot'' lol, just a bloke.

So GF re. ''disgust'', are you also 'disgusted' by injustice, oppression and wanton murder of any and all people by a massively more powerful protagonist, or are such feelings (in so far as you may have them) reserved only for non-Palestinians ? What are your views on 'Collective Punishment' and do you regard 'resistance' as an inalienable right of all humans when under the yoke of oppression and occupation ?!

ad iudicium ...

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

Yes, disgust. The ability to tear apart issues aids in finding alternative solutions. That has nothing to do with casual conversation found in a chat room. You are incapable of this. This is why you are going back to 6 month old (and longer) threads.

[-] 7 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

''Life In Gaza - Explained'' :

So ''to tear apart issues aids in finding alternative solutions.'' - right ?

Is that what the Israelis are up to in Gaza now ? Did it work before ?

fiat justitia et fiat pax ...

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

"The limitation of tyrants is the endurance of those they oppose." - Frederick Douglass.

You're right, I'm incapable of ''casual conversation found in a chat room'' & especially about Gaza - but I only revived your thread as it was clearly appropriate to do so and because my own last forum-post was capriciously and very unfairly banned ! It linked to a 'Bill Moyers talking to Paul Krugman about Thomas Piketty' video ffs !! So thanx very much for your help to ''tear apart issues'' but I've yet to hear any of your ''alternative solutions'' to Likudnik Uber-Zionism and Palestinian Indefatigability ! Ergo, re. ''disgust'', see :

Collective Punishment is a War Crime. The Occupied and Oppressed have nothing left but their defiance and endurance. Resistance is a Basic Human Right. There is no proportionality in Gaza & their struggle is symbolic, emblematic and a manifestation of The 99% Struggle. So GF, did you read any of my links here, above or below ? If not, what are you scared of ? I'd have a look at any links that you may provide.

cave - bella detesta matribus ...

[+] -5 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

because my own last forum-post was capriciously and very unfairly banned !

This is not a me issue that is a you issue.

I have already discussed resolutions with you on this topic.

[-] 4 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

Gaza is an 'us' issue and a 99% struggle I believe. Ergo your forum-post was fair game, as you and I after all - have had some 'issues' on this matter. So given the current circumstances, it was a fair call given any post from me could be as capriciously banned again. So GF don't take it so personally and please remind me of the ''discussed resolutions'' with some links.

More importantly, as per the matter in hand ie. Israel's latest / ongoing War On Gaza, please consider :

''Yuval Diskin, the chief of Israel's internal security agency the Shin Bet from 2005 to 2011, has posted a withering criticism of the Israeli government and its handling of the recent violence on his public Facebook page. He squarely blames Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government for the recent crisis, which began with the kidnapping and murder of three Israeli students in the West Bank and has spiraled into much wider violence, including the murder of a 16-year-old Palestinian by Israeli extremists.

''Diskin, who has frequently criticized Israel's occupation of the West Bank and its role in the Palestinian conflict since retiring, writes that Israel's treatment of Palestinians is primarily responsible for the worsening violence.

''Diskin was featured in the award-winning 2012 documentary "The Gatekeepers," which interviewed all the living former heads of the Shin Bet. While Israeli security chiefs are not exactly left-wing peaceniks, they and many members of the country's security establishment have long warned that the occupation is unsustainable and wrong, is a threat to Israel itself, and have placed the blame on Israeli political failures.''

Excerpted and abridged from :

fiat lux ...

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago

Gaza is an 'us' issue and a 99% struggle

[ edit ] Time, time, time, . . . . . . . see what's become of me.....

Time, time, time, see what's become of me.

While I looked around for my possibilities,

I was so hard to please.

Look around, the leaves are brown,

And the sky is a hazy shade of winter.

Hear the salvation army band

Down by the riverside, it's bound to be a better ride Than what you've got planned,

Carry your cup in your hand.

Look around you, the leaves are brown now, And the sky is a hazy shade of winter.

Hang on to your hopes, my friend.

That's an easy thing to say but if your hopes should pass away, It's simply pretend, that you can build them again.

Look around, the grass is high, the fields are ripe, It's the springtime of my life.

Oh, seasons change with the scenery, Weaving time in a tapestry, Won't you stop and remember me?

Look around, the leaves are brown, And the sky is a hazy shade of winter. Look around, the leaves are brown, There's a patch of snow on the ground, Look around, the leaves are brown, There's a patch of snow on the ground, Look around, the leaves are brown, There's a patch of snow on the ground.....

edit -> And I cry.

[-] 6 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

''Mother do you think they'll drop the bomb

''Mother do you think they'll like the song

''Mother do you think they'll try to break my balls

''Ooooh aah, Mother should I build a wall'' - from :

An ''Oxord professor of international relations Avi Shlaim served in the Israeli army and has never questioned the state's legitimacy. But its merciless assault on Gaza has led him to devastating conclusions.'' + FYI, DKAt : https://vine.co/v/MxB5AAKwEU0 as a li'l example of true resistance.

fiat justitia ...

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 years ago







Ivory Coast









Central African Republic

















and on and on and on

Picture of a very messed-up world - failed governments - corruption - greed - disease and on and on and on and on

Places of poverty places of terror places of conflict and on and on and on

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

''The goal of Operation Protective Edge is to restore the calm; the means: killing civilians. The slogan of the Mafia has become official Israeli policy. Israel sincerely believes that if it kills hundreds of Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, quiet will reign. It is pointless to destroy the weapons stores of Hamas, which has already proved capable of rearmament. Bringing down the Hamas government is an unrealistic (and illegitimate) goal, one that Israel does not want: It is aware that the alternative could be much worse. That leaves only one possible purpose for the military operation: death to Arabs, accompanied by the cheering of the masses.

''The Israel Defense Forces already has a “map of pain,” a diabolical invention that has replaced the no less diabolical “bank of targets,” and that map is spreading at a sickening pace. Watch Al Jazeera English, a balanced and professional television channel (unlike its Arabic sister station), and see the extent of its success. You won’t see it in Israel’s “open” broadcast studios, which as usual are only open to the Israeli victim, but on Al Jazeera you will see the whole truth, and perhaps you will even be shocked.'' Excerpted from :

''Emma Bull was right when she said .. “Coincidence is the word we use when we can’t see the levers and pulleys.” The timing of Israel’s recent assault on Gaza is not coincidental. It is the culmination of several factors: The Hamas-Fatah unity; Israel’s escalation of illegal construction in occupied territory; the collapse of the peace talks; the success of the BDS movement ; and the ever growing number of Europeans warning against investment in occupied territories.''

I see your point as per your list but also see a quantitative and qualitative difference right now when it comes to Gaza. There is more at play here than The Corporate MSM are telling us. News perception and management are right at the heart of The Gazan, Palestinian and 99% Struggle and I also agree with Noam Chomsky's take - as per my previous reply. Also, fyi :

''At the heart of Peled's conclusion lies the realization that Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace as equals in their shared homeland.''

fallaces sunt rerum species ...

[+] -7 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

No, this is you simply using it to post your crap on it. So, you're not a priority and you can go back and look it up.

[-] 10 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

"Join the constituency of conscience .. or else Palestinian lives become worthless" (Miko Peled) :

My ''crap'', huh & is the video or the person in it my ''crap'' .. never mind what he so movingly says ?!!! Also consider if I'm ''using it'' - it's ONLY For The Palestinians, NOT Against You !! So STOP being so touchy will ya please ?!

''Priority'' or otherwise, re. ''go back and look it up'' - am I to take it that you can't provide any links for evidence that you ''already discussed resolutions with (me) on this topic'' ? You would like me to find evidence of your statements ? So will you please provide a wee synopsis of your thinking on this now rather pressing and current topic ? Maybe, we could look together ? Where to start though ? Here ...

Looking at that GF, we can see that you clearly have The 99% at the focus of much of your posts but it really seems that when it comes to The Palestinian 99% - you suddenly start to channel The Dark Side Avatars & side with the oppressors against the oppressed. Why is that GF ? Too much US MSM B-S ?

veritas vos liberabit ...

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

You're a bone head and you're not a priority. That's it. Your whining is nothing more than you whining.

[-] 9 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

Miko Peled is a peace activist who dares to say in public what others still choose to deny. Born in Jerusalem in 1961 into a well known Zionist family, his grandfather, Dr. Avraham Katsnelson was a Zionist leader and signer of the Israeli Declaration of Independence. His Father, Matti Peled, was a young officer in the war of 1948 and a general in the war of 1967 when Israel conquered the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and Sinai.

Miko's unlikely opinions reflect his father's legacy. General Peled was a war hero turned peacemaker.

Miko grew up in Jerusalem, a multi-ethnic city, but had to leave Israel before he made his first Palestinian friend, the result of his participation in a dialogue group in California. He was 39.

On September 4, 1997 the beloved Smadar, 13, the daughter of Miko's sister Nurit and her husband Rami Elhanan was killed in a suicide attack.

Peled insists that Israel/Palestine is one state—the separation wall notwithstanding, massive investment in infrastructure, towns and highways that bisect and connect settlements on the West Bank, have destroyed the possibility for a viable Palestinian state. The result, Peled says is that Israelis and Palestinians are governed by the same government but live under different sets of laws.

At the heart of Peled's conclusion lies the realization that Israelis and Palestinians can live in peace as equals in their shared homeland.

~ The words above are copied verbatim from this link :  <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZfnpN4Dfc> ~

Why don't you watch / listen to that GF ? Too scared that your possibly deep prejudices and probably deeper MSM programming - will actually have to face some facts ? I may be ''a bone head'' {btw ouch, 'crushed' ; I say - ''crushed'', I am} but can you impugn Miko Peled's credentials or integrity ? Is he ''a bone head'' too ? Is he ''whining'' ? Are you one of those people who thinks European Jews have some kind of right to violently dispossess The Palestinians of their land & then also refuse to even share it ?

omnia mutantur et nos mutamur in illis ...

[+] -7 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

You're not a priority. It's more important at the moment to discuss case law.

Well, and you suck. You operate like a bot.

[-] 6 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

Re. some justice for Palestinians and peace in Gaza right now & for The 99% at large, then I'll be a ''bot'' if you like ! But your abject & utter failure to make any kind of case or counter argument whatsoever - is now duly noted !! But then again GF, wtf IS there to say, right ?!!! Also fyi, perhaps try to later consider :

e tenebris, lux ...


[-] 0 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 7 years ago

the cloud is forever

6 months was yesterday

[+] -4 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

Not interested.

[-] 3 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 7 years ago

If this is your way of telling me that you have every intention of fucking with me again, you should probably rethink your game plan.

yes, the final excuse to the failure

give them generalized advice

[+] -6 points by GirlFriday (17435) 7 years ago

You're an idiot.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 7 years ago

others deserve more

[-] 7 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

''When Israel is on “good behavior,” more than two Palestinian children are killed every week, a pattern that goes back over 14 years. The underlying cause is the criminal occupation and the programs to reduce Palestinian life to bare survival in Gaza, while Palestinians are restricted to unviable cantons in the West Bank and Israel takes over what it wants, all in gross violation of international law and explicit Security Council resolutions, not to speak of minimal decency. And it will continue as long as it is supported by Washington & tolerated by Europe - to our everlasting shame.'' by Noam Chomsky, from :

The mounting death toll in Gaza stands at over 200, with 1500+ injured and maimed and there have been 1000+ buildings destroyed too, as of 9am US, EST on July 16th, 2014 & one Israeli has died.

fiat lux et fiat pax ...




[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

So unlike in Gaza right now .. ''No injuries or damage were reported in the attack'' - then or now on The Zionist Apartheid Entity aka 'Israel' !!! We in pseudo-democratic societies can't remain silent for ever !! There's 53+ dead in Gaza and literally countless injured and maimed in the latest iteration of collective punishment {9/7/14} while Likudnik gatekeepers abroad either stay schtum or propagandise from afar !

Now the shit is kicking off in Gaza once again, as some Palestinians fire futile li'l rockets [mostly more like glorified fireworks] in desperate acts of defiance and Israel just does what Israel does best - whilst forgetting all about the 'David and Goliath' story & there's reports of 53+ dead in Gaza already. Sad sigh.

fiat lux ; fiat justitia ; fiat pax ...

[-] 6 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

IF you're sensitive to human suffering DO NOT OPEN the following links (of maimed Palestinian children after recent Israeli missiles) .. but if you think that we who live in putative democracies should be aware of what our silence allows then click .. but please do be aware that you may never forget what you see -

caveat !!!

[-] -2 points by ButtonHGwinnett (44) 7 years ago

Last week I sat at a dining table sponsored by Turkish Cultural Center in observance of Ramadan in New York City. It was a very nice experience. All members of the community were invited.

Ramadan is a month of fasting mandated by the Koran.

Secularists and Atheists have difficulty understanding how Hamas could launch missiles into Israel during the month of Ramadan – June 28 to July 28.

[-] 6 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

''US Senate Unanimously Passes Resolution Supporting Israeli Assault on Gaza'', by Chris Carlson :

Following a similar resolution passed last week by the U.S. House, the U.S. Senate voted Thursday night to support Israel’s ongoing invasion of the Gaza Strip. No dissenting vote was cast, and no mention was made of the hundreds of Palestinian civilians, most of whom are women and children, that have been killed by Israel in the past ten days.

Senate Resolution 498 was authored by Bob Menendez (D-NJ) and Lindsey Graham (R-SC), with additional support by Ben Cardin (D-MD) and son of former Republican party politician Ron Paul, Rand Paul (R-KY).

Paul is urging the Senate to pass his own bill, S. 2265, which would end all U.S. foreign aid to the Palestinian Authority until Hamas is barred from the new Palestinian unity government, among other stipulations.

The resolution was passed on the very same night Israel launched its current ground offensive into the Gaza Strip.

The United States and Israel, this past week, signed an agreement under which $429 million of American taxpayers’ money "will be transferred immediately to Israel" to further fund the Iron Dome missile system, which has recently come under scrutiny by prize winning Israeli defense and aerospace engineering expert Dr. Moti Shefer.

[Item copied verbatim under 'Fair Use' from ICH link above & refer there for embedded links.]


Nice that you had a ''nice experience''. Perhaps ''Secularists and Atheists'' (bit like me, tho' 'agnostic' is perhaps a better description !!) should ask just how and why Modern Technological 'Full Spectrum' War can be waged on 1.8 million people, in the 6th most densely populated patch of ground {140 sq. miles = size of Metropolitan Boston} who have been made refugees many times before already. Over 300 dead, over 2,000 injured & of corse ~ 3 Israelis dead & ~10 injured on a pretext for war that has little to do with the actual danger to Israelis. Also fyi :

fiat lux et fiat pax ...

[-] -3 points by surprise (-8) 7 years ago

After the formation of the Palestinian state, a civil conflict flared up between the Fatah movement and Hamas. Subsequently, Hamas ended up in charge of affairs in Gaza. They do not recognize the right of Israel to exist. Israel has relented, repeatedly. It is time for Hamas to be eradicated.

[-] 5 points by shadz66 (19985) 7 years ago

''Eradicated'' ?! Like 'exterminated' you mean ?! WTF are you talking about & do you remember where such talk has lead in times of yore ?!! That old ''recognise the right of Israel to exist'' canard and non sequitur eh - and does that really still wash, d'you think ?!!!

Israel Exists & no one is actually questioning that but the colonised, occupied, oppressed and onerously besieged do not have to pliantly accede to their dispossession do they ? Was that a prerequisite for The USA to make peace with the Native Americans ?

Have you perchance, ever heard of : Bar Giora ; The Hashomer ; The Palmach ; The Haganah ; The Irgun ; The Lehi Underground / The Stern Gang ? What was their raison d'etre and modus operandi ? Have you ever heard of 'The Warsaw Ghetto Uprising' ? Did you consider or even open any of the links above ? I'm guessing not but nevertheless, inter alia, I'll append and recommend the following :

From the former - ''We now have confirmation from the Israeli daily Haaretz of what we should have suspected: that the idea for the so-called Egyptian “ceasefire proposal” was actually hatched in Washington, the messenger boy was arch-war criminal Tony Blair, and the terms were drafted by Israel. The intention was either to corner Hamas into surrendering – and thereby keep the savage blockade of Gaza in place – or force Hamas to reject the proposal and confirm the Israeli narrative that it is a terrorist organisation with which Israel cannot make peace.'' & ..

From the latter - ''Israel’s overwhelming use of military force constitutes collective punishment, which is a war crime. The laws of war, also known as international humanitarian law, are primarily found in the Geneva Conventions. Article 33 of the Fourth Geneva Convention, to which Israel is a party, specifically forbids collective punishment. It says, “No protected person [civilian] may be punished for an offense he or she has not personally committed . . . Reprisals against protected persons and their property are prohibited.”

''Israel’s collective punishment of Palestinians in Operation Protective Edge constitutes a deliberate policy to punish the entire population of Gaza. Since the Palestinians concluded a unity agreement between Fatah in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza in June, Israel has stepped up the construction of illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank and Jerusalem. Richard Falk, former UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied by Israel since 1967, noted that Israel broke off the peace talks with the Palestinians before the formation of the Palestinian unity agreement.

''Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has blamed Hamas for the kidnapping and killing of the three Israeli teens in order to discredit the new Palestinian unity agreement. In what amounts to a catch-22, Netanyahu has cynically stymied the peace negotiations because, he said, there was no unified voice to speak for the Palestinians. But now that the Palestinians have a unity agreement, Netanyahu is driving a wedge between Fatah and Hamas in an effort to justify and maintain Israel’s occupation of Palestinian territory.

''The 140 square-mile Gaza Strip, home to 1.7 million people (half of whom are children), is one of the most densely populated areas in the world. It is often described as the world’s largest “open air prison,” as Israel maintains a tight blockade, restricting all ingress and egress. Since mid-2013, unemployment has dramatically increased and delivery of basic services has decreased. More than 90 percent of the water in Gaza is unsuitable for drinking. The health system is close to collapse, according to the World Health Organization. Last year, the UN Committee on the Rights of the Child reported, “Palestinian children arrested by [Israeli] military and police are systematically subject to degrading treatment, and often to acts of torture.” The committee also concluded that Israel’s “illegal long-standing occupation” of Palestinian land, continued expansion of “unlawful” Jewish settlements, construction of the barrier wall into the West Bank [found by the International Court of Justice 10 years ago to violate international law], and the confiscation of land and demolition of homes and livelihoods “constitute severe and continuous violations of the rights of Palestinian children and their families.”

''After Israel’s 2008 to 2009 Operation Cast Lead, in which nearly 1,400 Palestinians (82 percent of whom were civilians) and 13 Israelis were killed, a UN Human Rights Council report by a commission headed by Justice Richard Goldstone concluded, “Disproportionate destruction and violence against civilians were part of a deliberate policy [by Israel].”

So perhaps it's actually ''time'' for one sided, prejudiced, propagandist, double-speak ''to be eradicated'' ?

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