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Just Say No to the Jobs of ‪#‎KeystoneXL‬ ‪#‎NoKXL‬ ‪#‎ClimateJustice‬ ‪#‎KeystoneComedy‬

Posted 2 months ago on Feb. 5, 2014, 10:23 a.m. EST by OccupyWallSt (1) from Plainfield, NJ

Click here to let people know what you think about the KeystoneXL pipeline.

Today is the start of the public comment period on ‪#‎KeystoneXL‬. ‪#‎NoKXL‬ ‪#‎ClimateJustice‬ ‪#‎KeystoneComedy‬

Find out why this is such a toxic proposal.

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[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (20419) 2 months ago

Right. Americans have to start saying no to jobs that pillage the environment, that exploit other human beings, that pay exploitative low wages, that provide no benefits, that exist because of unenforced labor laws (temps/independent contractors, etc.) and on and on.

Short term pain for long term gain.

It is time for American workers to stand up and fight. If that means not paying your bills for a while, so be it. That'll give the 1% an even stronger message.

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3025) 2 months ago

'Now, if we could get workers to think bigger and longer-term, with the far view in the forefront of their minds; if we could get them to suffer in the short term, and stand up and fight, they could improve their long term economic interests greatly, but how do we convince them of that?' from your comment here - http://occupywallst.org/forum/mandela-was-unable-to-dismantle-the-white-oligarch/#comment-1021191 .

How? By constant struggle and education. OWS has been instrumental in shifting the debate these last two and half years. The Keystone Pipeline is directly related to Big Oil and Wall Street interests and the POTUS is schtum on the matter - http://www.nationofchange.org/wall-street-sounds-silence-president-1391526946 and also see -

http://www.nationofchange.org/public-private-profiteers-1391613899

http://www.nationofchange.org/state-department-releases-flawed-keystone-xl-final-environmental-review-super-bowl-friday-trash-dump

http://www.salon.com/2014/01/24/we_could_have_a_decision_on_keystone_by_june/ .

Never Give Up On The 99%! Occupy The 1%! Solidarity.

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (20419) 2 months ago

And, also, by telling stories of real people, like this woman with a Master's degree living in an RV:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paula-e-bray/working-poor-america_b_4690675.html

Her story represents millions of people shamed into silence and embarrassment. Perhaps they are beginning to realize that their economic situation is not their fault. Once that happens, real change will be forced upon the system, a system that serves corporations and not the people, as noted in your links regarding the Keystone Pipeline.

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3025) 2 months ago

'Why has America forgotten the three most important economic lessons we learned in the thirty years following World War II?' asks Robert Reich, from - http://www.nationofchange.org/why-three-biggest-economic-lessons-were-forgotten-1392219045 . Thank you for that moving 'huffpo' link. Never Give Up The 99% Struggle! Occupy The Future! Solidarity.

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (20419) 2 months ago

From Reich: "First, America’s real job creators are consumers, whose rising wages generate jobs and growth. If average people don’t have decent wages there can be no real recovery and no sustained growth."

"Second, the rich do better with a smaller share of a rapidly-growing economy than they do with a large share of an economy that’s barely growing at all."

"Third, higher taxes on the wealthy to finance public investments — better roads, bridges, public transportation, basic research, world-class K-12 education, and affordable higher education – improve the future productivity of America. All of us gain from these investments, including the wealthy."

Nothing too complicated there. Thanks, A4C. Solidarity!

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3025) 1 month ago

'Democrats and liberals have become too fixated on election results rather than aiming for long term goals that address the issues of economic inequality, and that the administrations of Bill Clinton and Barack Obama too often acquiesced to the demands of Wall Street and the right.' from Bill Moyers & http://www.nationofchange.org/surrender-america-s-liberals-1393430213 and with reference 'taxes to finance public investments - http://www.nationofchange.org/robin-hood-tax-take-back-our-economy-1393344562 Never Give On The 99%! Keep Occupying The Issues! Solidarity.

[-] 6 points by beautifulworld (20419) 1 month ago

"So, I hear you saying, Adolph, that while social and cultural factors are important to us, economic issues are the fundamental existential questions. And that the neo-liberal parties, both of them, devoted to promoting the interests of multinational companies and capitalism don't care what you think about cultural and social issues, as long as they control the process by which nothing interferes with markets." Moyers.

Truth. No matter what cultural or social freedoms you think you have, if you are in economic shackles, those freedoms are a ruse.

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3025) 1 month ago

Bill Moyers has The 99% at heart and if only more 'journalists' were not just PR fronts for The 1% then our democracy would have the protection that The Constitution envisaged, where 'The Press' is the only industry or profession referenced.

Many thanks for your great quote and also for your information - http://www.nationofchange.org/financial-transaction-tax-high-frequency-traders-1394023208 and http://www.nationofchange.org/real-job-killers-1393683435 by Robert Reich.

Never Give Up On The 99%! Occupy The 1%! Solidarity.

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20419) 1 month ago

"Guess how much in taxes folks pay on the sales in the HFT (High Frequency Trade) game? When I buy a $3 pack of toilet paper here in Austin, Texas, I pay an extra 8.25 percent in sales tax. But if a high roller in the HFT game buys $10 million worth of corporate stock, he or she pays zero tax on the sale."

"A sales tax on speculators can deliver tangibles that people need but Wall Street says we can't afford — infrastructure, Social Security, education, good jobs, etc. Just as important, it can deliver intangibles that our nation needs but Wall Street tries to ignore — fairness, social cohesion, equal opportunity, etc."

Fairness, social cohesion, equal opportunity, etc. Imagine that? Not so far fetched after all. Just has to be forced on these greedy bastards who have used the financialization of everything to rape and pillage the 99% of the world.

Solidarity A4C!

[-] 5 points by Ache4Change (3025) 4 weeks ago

'During the Great Recession, total U.S. household wealth fell by about $16.4 trillion, with much of those losses going into the pockets of the oligarchs who caused one of the worst economic collapses in American history. Not a single billionaire bankster was jailed or even prosecuted for that collapse. And for even more proof that Washington has turned into an oligarchy, the NRA, a group that is among the oligarchs, is fighting feverishly to block President Obama’s nomination of Dr. Vivek Murthy to be Surgeon General.' Excerpted from - http://www.nationofchange.org/billionaires-first-they-came-economy-1395233856 and also as per this thread, see - http://www.nationofchange.org/interstate-pipeline-spills-10000-gallons-crude-oil-ohio-nature-preserve-1395326516 .

Never Give Up Shining A Light! Occupy All Streets! Solidarity.

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (20419) 3 weeks ago

10,000 gallons of crude oil spilled in an Ohio nature preserve! And, barely a word in MSM! Unbelievable.

We were discussing the financial aspects of all of this and hadn't even yet touched on the environmental degradation that this pipeline will cause. Here again we see the connection between economics and the environment. The two are forever entwined and until we humans can see this more clearly, the quest for profit will continue to deteriorate the earth.

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3025) 2 weeks ago

The connection between economics and the environment is absolutely critical to our understanding but our ability to know this, work out how and ask critical questions, has now been severely compromised by the nature of MSM ownership as well as the likes of - http://www.nationofchange.org/how-supreme-court-just-legalized-money-laundering-rich-campaign-donors-1396536391 .

As you already said here - https://occupywallst.org/article/theory-thursday-break-monopoly-everyday-life-chris/#comment-1026282 - 'Think of our government and how they don't listen to entire cohorts of people (the government's children) who have needs and who are suffering. Maybe we can argue that economic harm is economic violence. Think of all the harm that an unfair economic systems hurls at people, all the suffering, needless suffering, especially when there is so much wealth but it's just being hoarded by a few.' - but our government and democracy are now increasingly in the thrall and control of Big Money, Bankers & The 1% Owned Corporations. 'US Democracy' is mutating into something else altogether - right in front of our very eyes and we should all be extremely concerned about this.

Never Give Up Exposing The Corporate Coup! Occupy Democracy! Solidarity.

[-] 4 points by beautifulworld (20419) 1 week ago

"A major purpose of the aggregate limits was to prevent money laundering schemes that could enable donors and political parties to evade the cap on donations to individual candidates."

And, so, there it goes, our democracy, gone to the wolves. So much for carrying your guns, they tricked you all and laugh in your face.

I said a long time ago that we should march on the Supreme Court. We still should. Because, it's never too late!

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3025) 1 week ago

Marching on The Supreme Court is a really great idea! It will be beaten down with much violence and be misrepresented by the corporate media of course, but nothing else will capture the popular imagination or inform The 99% about the reasons for our ire and how it affects us all, than a well planned and rolling protest about this 'money = free speech' matter. This goes right to the heart of The 1% v The 99% wider issue as well as to the core of the question of 'fairness' for citizens or corporations? Also fyi -

http://www.nationofchange.org/our-highest-court-former-lobbyist-guts-campaign-finance-reform-1396706780

http://www.nationofchange.org/mccutcheon-and-vicious-cycle-concentrated-wealth-and-political-power-1396622890

http://www.nationofchange.org/eight-headlines-mainstream-media-doesn-t-have-courage-print-1396884374#

Never Give Up On Democracy! OCCUPY THE SUPREME COURT! Solidarity.

[-] 8 points by beautifulworld (20419) 1 week ago

"Eight Headlines Mainstream Media Doesn't Have the Courage to Print:"

  1. U.S. Wealth Up $34 Trillion Since Recession. 93 percent of You Got Almost None of It.

  2. Eight Rich Americans Made More Than 3.6 Million Minimum Wage Workers

  3. News Sources Speak for the 5 percent

  4. TV News Dumbed Down for American Viewers

  5. News Execs among White Male Boomers Who Owe Trillions to Society. The hype about the "self-made man" is fantasy.

  6. Funding Plummets for Schools and Pensions as Corporations Stop Paying Taxes

  7. Companies Based in the U.S. Paying Most of their Taxes Overseas

  8. Restaurant Servers Go Without Raise for 30 Years...the minimum wage for tipped workers has been approximately $2 an hour since the 1980s.

Americans need to take back their government and especially the Supreme Court if they are going to continue to make rulings that fail to protect and promote the general welfare of the people. A peaceful march on the Supreme Court would be very powerful. Not sure why this hasn't happened yet. Solidarity, A4C!

[-] 2 points by Ache4Change (3025) 2 days ago

'A peaceful march on the Supreme Court would be very powerful. Not sure why this hasn't happened yet.' I totally agree with you and this is a very serious point I think. Drawing attention to and resisting the recent 'McCutcheon' decision and the earlier 'Citizens United' decision, will have to be down to the 99% as our elected representatives have been co-opted so completely by the corporations and banks. Indeed it can easily be argued that the Executive, Legislature and Judiciary have all been comprehensively co-opted by the corporations. So where does that leave 'democracy' do we think?

Thank you for your excellent 'Eight Headlines' excerpt and comment, and also by Paul Buccheit, see - http://www.nationofchange.org/four-eras-slavery-benefit-corporations-1397485725 - 'Slavery, in its various forms of physical and mental torment, has been a part of U.S. history from the beginnings of our country to the present day with modern-day corporations profiting immensely.' Today of course, we have slavery by other means and as such, also please see - https://occupywallst.org/forum/have-you-seen-the-film-inside-job-if-not-why-not-i/#comment-1028476 .

Never Give Up Exposing Corporate Co-option! OCCUPY THE SUPREME COURT! Solidarity.

[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (20419) 20 hours ago

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

This is the basic tenet of our nation but we have never really honored it. Be it outright slavery, as we had in the past, or economic slavery like we still have today from the extraction of profit from the hard work of the masses, we have failed as a nation to treat everyone equally.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26718) 3 weeks ago

https://occupywallst.org/forum/another-day-another-poisoned-river/

I posted on Duke energy in N. Carolina's coal ash spill and one that's been pumping coal ash into the Ohio for perhaps, decades.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 month ago

something about bank rupsy laws

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Truth. No matter what cultural or social freedoms you think you have, if you are in economic shackles, those freedoms are a ruse.

Exactly!!!

People - TAKE OFF THE BLINDFOLD


No I won't turn off the bloody caps lock - as for 1 it is not on!

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (20419) 1 month ago

Nice, :). Spread the word. Solidarity!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Care2 = 25,010,286 members doing good! Secretary Kerry: Stop Keystone XL

In other words =

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Truth. No matter what cultural or social freedoms you think you have, if you are in economic shackles, those freedoms are a ruse.

In Compliment:

BREAKING LA TIMES: Medicare, child care, college grants are all under Paul Ryan’s budget axe

Paul Ryan just introduced his worst plan yet: a scheme that would absolutely decimate anti-poverty programs and Obamacare — all to hand the GOP's billionaire financiers and largest corporate supporters an enormous tax break.

Paul Ryan and John Boehner would destroy critical benefits that help struggling Americans just to provide tax loopholes for their wealthiest supporters to buy yachts and private jets.

ADD YOUR NAME: Denounce Paul Ryan’s plan to hand tax breaks to his billionaire financiers while struggling Americans suffer the consequences.

Hundreds of thousands of Americans could be left without food, rent, and health care — all to pay for continuing and expanding outrageous tax breaks — if Ryan’s despicable plan were to pass.

It’s the latest example that Republicans are willing to do anything to buy loyalty from their largest backers -- even throw struggling Americans under the bus. It’s outrageous, and we have to stop this plan before it gets to the Senate.

SIGN HERE: Denounce Paul Ryan’s disgusting plan right away. Let’s get 100,000 grassroots signatures!

Thanks for your support, DSCC Rapid Response

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

The word spreads - one example = 790,284 have signed - http://www.avaaz.org/en/stop_the_keystone_xl_pipeline_loc_us/?bGfGZcb&v=36745

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

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[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Keep Occupying The Issues!

Exactly - as - without solutions to pursue/push to make improvements in government or business or in power generation or in education etc etc etc - all we have if we are successful in booting out a corrupt politician is another politician ( good or bad ) - government - society - needs direction - proper direction that points out how things can and should be done better than they currently are. It is not enough to protest - we also need to advocate.

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3025) 1 month ago

You could also say that it is not enough to just vote - we all need to protest and advocate and select political candidates for The 99% who will conduct themselves for The People and NOT The Corporations. For example - http://www.nationofchange.org/five-things-know-about-dire-state-student-debt-america-1393425237 Never Give Up On Advocating For The 99%! Occupy The Future 99% Agenda! Solidarity.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

EDIT - It is a combined effort - get rid of the corrupted - promote people who fight for the people - while also promoting the changes that need to be made. Direction MUST be given - Or - we end up with more offerings from government that do not - will not - suffice.

EDIT-> Example: ( my response to an e-mail pushing support for 10.10 an hour minimum wage )

10.10 is nowhere near a good starting point. 15.00 an hour would be the very least that we need to push for as a minimum wage - this tied to inflation/cost of living. 15.00 an hour would give real health to people and through those people the whole economy. 10.10 is insufficient to get people to be able to stand on their own financial feet.

Regroup and rethink - get back to us ( the People ) when you have something "REAL" to support.

[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3025) 1 month ago

Good response to 10.10 & fyi http://15now.org/ - 10.10 is way too low and a weak negotiating position, shackling the 99% and favouring Corporations.

I'm having trouble responding here due to jumping to the top of the page when clicking 'reply' and also am also sometimes getting a 'No Data Received' notice but which temporarily resolves after refreshing a few times. Just thought I should mention it, especially as I can see other comments about this matter from people today. Solidarity.

[-] 5 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

I experience those glitches as well. Sometimes refreshing/reloading the tab helps.

Good Post = http://15now.org/

tweet

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday

Support a "REAL" change 4 The good of "ALL"

No more 1/2 measures!

http://15now.org/

Very tweet worthy - a viral pandemic necessity.

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3025) 1 month ago

http://15now.org/ is indeed an important site. Thanks for tweeting it and also for your information -

http://www.nationofchange.org/seven-numbers-add-death-tax-retirement-1393861517 & also see -

http://www.nationofchange.org/financial-transaction-tax-high-frequency-traders-1394023208

Never Give Up Spreading The 99% News! Occupy The Issues! Solidarity.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 2 months ago

because they're noobs and don't deserve to control the money

[-] 3 points by Ache4Change (3025) 2 months ago

They're worse than that, they're in the thrall of 1% PSYCHOPATHS! Here's a further example and sad insight - http://www.nationofchange.org/despite-93-billion-profits-big-oil-demands-continued-tax-breaks-1392132714 Never Give Up On The 99%! Go Occupy! Solidarity.

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[-] 4 points by Ache4Change (3025) 2 months ago

'The State Department today released the Final Supplemental Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) for the proposed Keystone XL oil pipeline project' - http://www.keystonepipeline-xl.state.gov/ from -

http://www.nationofchange.org/state-department-releases-final-environmental-impact-statement-keystone-xl-pipeline-1391268407 .

Never Give Up Exposing The Short Term Profiteers! Occupy The Future!

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Keystone Comedy - speaking of which - anyone else note the train traffic out of Canada is glutted with tar sands oil? The news services got concerned that General Mills was not getting their oat shipments. That would have Me concerned as well - NOT. Just another round about way to create pipeline support? I think so.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Keystone Comedy - is your tar sands train traffic messing with your local area light rail service work commute? Hmmm what to do what to do .......

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

The State Department has received almost 1 Million public comments against the Keystone XL. And they're trying their best to sweep them under the rug.

The State Department is tasked with making a final recommendation on whether Keystone XL is in the national interest – and they’re legally obligated to take public comments for a short period of time. They're hoping to do it so quietly that no one notices what an enormous share of the American people have spoken out against the Keystone XL.

So we're teaming up with our friends to create a public spectacle the State Department will have no choice but to publicly acknowledge. We're going to illuminate the State Department and project our members' public comments, the ones they're trying to ignore, right onto their headquarters in Washington DC.

If we raise just $4,000 we can put the finishing touches on our action that'll make it go really viral - can you help us do that?

Help us illuminate DC and the State Department with your public comments against the Keystone XL pipeline: please support The Other 98%.

When you're doing something this big, it requires a lot of friends - that's why we're so proud to partner on this action with The Illuminator, NYC’s Light Brigade, 350.org and We Act Radio.

So: why are we fighting the pipeline?

Because when NASA’s legendary climate scientist James Hansen says exploiting Canada’s tar sands oil will be “game over” for Earth’s climate, then, yeah, we’re gonna say a 3000-mile pipeline full of the stuff isn’t exactly in the national interest.

But we need your help to help cover costs and make this as historic as it can be - please support us today.

Thanks for all you do to make this world a better place.

Sincerely,

John Sellers, The Other 98%

The Other 98% Lab is a 501c3 tax deductible organization that is making democracy work for the rest of us.

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 1 month ago

what a soft non issue. I must oppose cancer next

we all drive cars

let's divert the population into fighting their left hand with their right

if people were really concerned about environmental impact;

they should call for the pipeline to be a public project

energy is what's at issue

the pipeline will be built or not

still we fought the good fight

right?

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

BTW - TWEET

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday

Just Say No to the Jobs of #KeystoneXL #NoKXL #ClimateJustice #KeystoneComedy http://occupywallst.org/forum/just-say-no-jobs-keystonexl-nokxl-climatejustice-k/#.Uw5ZFrWxiKU.twitter

Speak-UP

Speak-OUT

Truth 2 Power

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Please - EVERYONE - Heed this post and SPEAK TRUTH TO POWER.

Make use of the link provided by this post = http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=DOS-2014-0003-0001

Speak-UP

Speak-OUT

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20616) from South Burlington, VT 1 month ago

this should be interesting . . . .

my comment:



.

Quite honestly this is a subject that makes me so FURIOUS I feel it may well be best if I censor

myself - rather heavily.

Every time Senator Sanders or Congressman Welch speak out about fuel prices, a refinery

seems to BLOW UP, which produces a cascade of constriction throughout the entire supply line

of fuel. Hence, PRICES RISE.

Trans Canada wants a pipe line. Never mind the fact that they cannot build one THAT WON'T

LEAK. They want one. Or should I say, they want ANOTHER one.

TRANS CANADA WANTS A PIPE LINE

AND LAC-MEGANTIC, QUEBEC NO LONGER EXISTS.

.

It really isn't that difficult to find the names of those who actually own Trans Canada.

Personally I do firmly believe that the oil industry as a whole has one coming. That is my personal

conviction.

D. Winter http://zendogblog.net



.

we'll see if it ever shows up. The fukers make me furious.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Ha Haaaaaa good one - make people stop and take notice - and - perhaps - THINK.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20616) from South Burlington, VT 1 month ago

I have not forgotten

Ken Saro-Wiwa

  • Born: October 10, 1941, Bori, Rivers
  • Died: November 10, 1995, Port Harcourt, Nigeria

We ALL stand before HISTORY

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

We ALL stand before HISTORY

No matter how we act or do not - we are ALL a part of what is happening.

[-] 0 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Thanks - that made a nice tweet:

DKAtoday ‏@DKAtoday

We ALL stand before HISTORY

No matter how we act or do not - we are ALL a part of what is happening.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20616) from South Burlington, VT 1 month ago

Saro-Wiwa said that, not me.

And they hung him, in Harcourt, Nigeria.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

What I said -> here : http://www.regulations.gov/#!documentDetail;D=DOS-2014-0003-0001 ( this is the link from the above post )

Keep Occupying The Issues!

Exactly - as - without solutions to pursue/push to make improvements in government or business or in power generation or in education etc etc etc - all we have if we are successful in booting out a corrupt politician is another politician ( good or bad ) - government - society - needs direction - proper direction that points out how things can and should be done better than they currently are. It is not enough to protest - we also need to advocate.

KXL needs to be refused. All expansion of fossil fuel extraction/use needs to be refused. Listen to the 97% of all climate scientists - THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT = We can NOT increase our use of fossil fuel.

We need full implementation of alternative power generation sources - clean power generation. Wind Turbines - Solar Cells - water conversion to Hydrogen to be used in power plants - thorium reactors ( safe - smaller footprint - does not produce nuclear weapons grade material ) - etc etc etc

We have clean VIABLE alternatives to fossil fuel - WE NEED TO USE THEM TO OUR FULL CAPABILITY.