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Forum Post: How a Politician Plays the Public

Posted 6 years ago on Aug. 29, 2015, 5 p.m. EST by turbocharger (1756)
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Here is a link to the lone hope and hero of the Democrats, Bernie the Sheepdog, on his speech about the bailouts.


""If we are going to bail out Wall Street, it should be those people who have caused the problem, those people who have benefited from Bush's tax breaks for millionaires and billionaires"

See how easy that was? Just shift the conversation. Go through that text, where in there does he call out the CEOs by actual name? Where does he say the banks should fall flat on their face, THEY SHOULD FAIL, and the incredible opportunities it would create for all of us?

He doesn't. Why not, you might ask? Because he's a gutless puppet. He has zero desire to reign in Wall St. He wanted to save the elits regardless, just fund it with the millionaires money. Still sided with the bankers though.

How pathetic are we as a nation right now? This dude is the savior? Wtf what a joke.



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[-] 3 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 6 years ago

If BS were a true socialist he would be talking about nationalizing the banks .......... not who should bail them out. Didn't Iceland nationalize there banks and then write a new Constitution?

My larger 4 concerns about him are:

1 Bernie Sanders Wouldn’t End Obama’s Drone Program, Promises To Use It ‘Very Selectively’


2 BS view on Palestinian - Israel


3 If Bernie Sanders was against the invasion of Iraq, why did he repeatedly vote to fund it?


4 Running as a Democrat. D's & R's are two arms of one corporate party. Neither represent their constituents. And if he doesn't secure the nomination, he will support the D who does. Guess who that would be.

I do like most of what he says on social issues, but his foreign policy has to be questioned.

[-] 5 points by beautifulworld (23460) 6 years ago

We're in America. The fact that the word "socialist" is becoming acceptable on any level is a miracle.

[-] 3 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 6 years ago

Actually socialists and anti-fascist communists have quite a bit of history in the US, especially during the Great Depression. As a reaction to their growing popularity, and to preserve capitalism, their pressure helped guide FDR to the New Deal to "calm people". WW2 slowed the movement considerably, but re-emerged after the war. The reaction of capitalists was the "Red Scare of 1947-57". Here's an article about it but there's a lot more if you search:

Fighting for Change: The Great Depression, the New Deal and the CPUSA



[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23460) 6 years ago

We used to have unions fighting for workers' rights and wages, too. Now they're talking about dismantling the National Labor Relations Board!

We're in the fight of our lives. This country has moved so far to the right that getting back to where during the New Deal would be acceptable for now, though we need more than that even.

[-] 3 points by SparkyJP (1646) from Westminster, MD 6 years ago

Although I gave you a twinkle (because I think your heart is in the right place) I disagree with your premise that getting back to where we were during the New Deal is acceptable. It is not. It would mean that in 85 years we made no progress and that we are spinning our wheels going nowhere. I think the capitalist system is the problem and is feudalism by another name.

When I see beggars on the streets, I see serfs.
When I see lineups for grocery handouts, I see serfs.
When I see people who can't afford dental, medical, or legal services, I see serfs.
When I see heads of households who are involuntarily unemployed, I see serfs.
When I see workers on minimum wage, I see serfs
When I see working people who can't afford to buy a home, I see serfs.
When I see families who still don't own their homes after 20 years of payments, I see serfs.


By accepting the crumbs that the elite trickle down on us only serves to keep the present system in place and ensures that it will happen again. A better world is possible.

"When once a republic is corrupted, there is no possibility of remedying any of the growing evils but by removing the corruption and restoring its lost principles; every other correction is either useless or a new evil." ~ Thomas Jefferson

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23460) 6 years ago

I've been saying for a long time that capitalism is the problem and I agree with you, however, being realistic, I know the average American is not going to go out on the street and fight to nationalize the banks and the utilities. In fact, they've been convinced in large numbers to reject those things as well as universal healthcare and affordable education. Heck, we can't even get these people to fight in large numbers for a raise on the minimum wage let alone a true living wage or basic income guarantee. So, for me, Bernie Sanders is not perfection but he stands way to the left of anyone else, especially in the Democratic Party. I don't know why he's not running as an Independent, I wish he was, but he's still way left of where the true Democratic Wall Street wankers stand.

[-] 3 points by east (110) 6 years ago

On the O.W.S. anniversary, that really is a very strong comment. There won't be instant perfection in any PotUS candidate that the DandR Corporate racket run but BS is saying things unheard of by The 99% for generations. That, in and of itself has value and as beautifulworld says''The fact that the word "socialist" is becoming acceptable on any level is a miracle.'' + I'm really interested in what you think about the Bernie Sanders Presidential run and its connection to O.W.S.' efforts for these last 4 years.

Finally, I'll quote Henry Giroux: ''Civic illiteracy is about more than the glorification and manufacture of ignorance on an individual scale: It's now producing a nationwide crisis of agency, memory & thinking itself.'' from - http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/32800-political-frauds-and-the-ghost-of-totalitarianism

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 6 years ago

The fact he is running as a Democrat also means that if he does get the nomination, it will come with a million corporate strings attached to it.

Its such a joke.

[-] 1 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 6 years ago

doom sayer

we will never pay back our debts

exponential interest makes that mathematically impossible

tax won't change that

try guaranteed basic income

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

Ill pass on relying on the Feds to cut me a check every month.

[-] 2 points by MattHolck0 (3867) 5 years ago

cut your own

cotrol makes sense

blades are being emphasized in NPR is being dangers

heard a guy wounded 40 killed 2

airstrikes are more efficient

[-] 1 points by turbocharger (1756) 5 years ago

That program doesnt allow for choice.

[-] 0 points by beautifulworld (23460) 6 years ago

I think time is of the essence at this point. To avoid a bloody revolution, we must support Bernie Sanders. I do wish he were running as an Independent. I absolutely wish that.

[-] 2 points by turbocharger (1756) 6 years ago

Ever notice how every election is the "most important" election?

Nice decent people just voted for a war criminal because they were scared of Romney.

At some point we have to understand that the world has always been a mess, and simply have to start the process. Just my take :)

[-] 3 points by beautifulworld (23460) 6 years ago

I hear you. I'm just trying to be hopeful....