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Forum Post: Hope Betrayed

Posted 4 years ago on Nov. 9, 2017, 8:31 a.m. EST by agkaiser (2515) from Fredericksburg, TX
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Part of the hope package that put Obama in office on January 20, 2008 was the promise to bail out mortgages that were underwater due to Bush's 2008 shearing of the Wall Street Sheep. Instead, O betrayed us by funding the rentier vultures buyup of those mortgages. Now the neo feudal landlords are parasitizing the global economy and threatening our economic and real existence with their shortsighted greed.

Many of the victims of neo feudal rentierism are praising Trump's tax cut for the rich and failing to see the tax increases for themselves. They are clueless about how the death of the inheritance tax is a mortal blow to themselves and their progeny for many generations if not for all time.

"[The] target are Wall Street giants - the so-called 'vulture funds' - that have been on a house-buying spree across Europe and the United States since the 2008 financial crash. According to the New York Times, Goldman Sachs, Cerberus Capital Management, Lone Star Funds, Blackstone Group and other US companies have bought more than €223 billion worth of troubled real estate loans in Europe in the last four years."




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[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2515) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 years ago

The Dems need to earn the votes of Greens and other genuine progressives. The party has devolved to being tools of Wall St. masters. If they want my vote they need to return to support of workers against the evil of billionaires and investors who own America and threaten the survival of the human race with their stupidity and greed.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33802) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 years ago

The Dems need to earn the votes of Greens and other genuine progressives


And it shows just how fucked-up the DNC (establishment ) is - when they had a true uniter of the public who had a solid campaign (as well as personal history) to support and uplift the general population - and the establishment tried to use him to get his supporters but screwed him to support "their" 1% candidate (sHillary Rotten Clinton). Hell Bernie went beyond uniting just progressives, he went beyond and into attracting many who were totally disgusted by the GOP.

The DNC establishment very openly SHIT on the public in 2016 thinking that there was no way in hell that they could lose to Babyman Drumpf!

Now they can't own up to what they did - they just want to ignore their trampling of the general public's will and carry on like they are saints!

They are out of touch with reality if they can not see that the public will not stand for this crap any-longer. They need to make amends to the public and truly embrace Bernie's 2016 campaign.

[-] 1 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago


[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

The Greens are a bunch of divisive ego whores!

Fuck the Greens I will NEVER vote for a fucking Green!

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

The Greens are a divisive force that promotes the election of the GOP they divide the left and support the right.

The Greens are ego whores that killed the planet in 2000 they are the lowest of the low the worst most divisive of all people.

As we saw in the 2016 election where Gary Johnson got about three time the number of votes that the ego whore Jill Stein got. The Greens are a dead divisive force and nobody give a shit about what ANY Green has to say.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

The Greens did not kill the planet in 2000 because we are still around, aren't we? Yes, anthropogenic climate change is biting our ass (hey, I believe it [amongst other microscopic and animalia evidence] since Irene and Sandy are Both one-in-one-hundred-year storms in back-to-back years! Of course, there are also the one-in-one-thousand-year events and so on) but God said in the Bible that the Earth endures forever.

There's therefore a very quick short-term fix coming when the sun and the sky will be darkened by the smoke. Red China has already taken the lead in this effort. Just look at the images taken there while peering into the distance. The Earth will be cooled down. God Never lets us down, doesn't He? Amen!

Next up, a tax cut for the idiots with stringent and short-duration qualification requirements in exchange for the death of the death tax for the wealthy and the state and local tax deductions. Now you see it. No, you don't! When the U.S. economy is humming along quite well (3% real GDP growth with little inflationary pressure - unlike Flip, I like low inflation better than high inflation like 50% a month because of "Been there. Done that. Yikes!"), why do we need a trickle-down trillions of dollars tax cut to stimulate the economy? It seems to be eight years too late unless we just want to join our local Idiot in the golden shower by the "free" (i.e., with Mafia!) motherland Russian Pooting.

This respectful pussy should satisfy our local Idiot.

Sunny and warm S. Iberia certainly has "wide spaces for dreams and for living." The Nazi-German soldiers had to be idiots, too, for their fear of being captured and sent to S. Iberian Gulags where they would eat Valencia oranges "in Valhalla" for their "valorous deed in painting 'The East is Red'."

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

The Earth is a dead planet walking, after the ego whore Greens divided the vote in 2000 and put W Bush in the WH any chance we had to address climate change disappeared.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2515) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 years ago

Wake up neo cons and neo libs. your minds are obsolete.

[-] 0 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

If Al Gore hadn't been betrayed by Ralph Nader Bush would have been at the ball game in 2008 instead of writing policy. Who wins matters, the Nation was betrayed in 2000 and we may never recover from it.

As long as we're talking about history and all,

going forward it's obvious defeating the GOP at the polls is the most important thing anyone can do.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2515) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 years ago

if Bobby Kennedy hadn't been assassinated Nixon wouldn't have been elected and the right wing decline of America including the moron Ronald Reagan and the neo liberalization of the Democratic Party might have been averted.

So the fuck what?! This shit is pointless. Wake the fuck up! What we have is calcified stupidity. Until the whole facade of democracy falls there is no real hope for meaningful change or rule of, by and for the people.

[-] 2 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

When (2017 Halloween update) Yellowstone supervolcano or its vicinity (rhyolitic lava likely flows {slower than basaltic lava} after exploding {subduction zones' lava's higher gaseous content tends to blow up lava into ash plume} through an existing fault or caldera) erupts, much more than the whole façade of democracy will fall. Mother Nature can surely kick ass!

"Be prepared! Be prepared! It's our endeavor. Trusty and steady is He! We are always jolly company. A scout should be. You will agree."

Thanks a Lot for human family values {"holding up the purity of the bloodline near to Jerusalem and the Dead Sea!"}.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2515) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 years ago

"if the right one don'ta getcha, then the left one will!"

It's a race. environment, war, economic disintegration or man made or natural biological disaster may be the immediate cause of the end. Whatever ... our stupidity will place near the winner.

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

So you equate Ralph Nader with Sirhan Sirhan? Good point, I would agree.

You were talking about 2008 isn't this a history post? You would have to be stupid as shit not to know the GOP must lose!

neo liberal or not it is stupid as shit to let the GOP win, sure you need to get in the primaries if you want to do something you got to show at all the organizing meeting you got to get deep into the Democratic Party if you want to make a difference but THE MOST important thing of ALL is you got the defeat the GOP!

If you want to talk about betrayal the betrayal of the Greens exceeds any that the noe-liberals ever did.

[-] 1 points by agkaiser (2515) from Fredericksburg, TX 4 years ago

I'm talking about the problems that we need to solve to unify the left. You're talking about me and others, as you further divide the left. Whose side are you working for? Whose side are you on? ... demonstrably?

[-] 1 points by factsrfun (8306) from Phoenix, AZ 4 years ago

Again I ask you a serious question can you think of anything more divisive than supporting Jill Stein?

The Greens who would divide the left and elect the GOP have ran all the serious people from this site, will you be one of them or will you decide to do something?

If we can not agree that in the end when election time comes we must vote to defeat the GOP then who gives a crap what you got to say? If in the end you are going to throw your damn vote in the trashcan and let the GOP win then why brother talking about how to make the candidate better or put forth a better platform if in the end you are going to support a divisive choice like Stein?

The Greens infected this site with their political hacks that attacked any that suggested we defeat the GOP and now OWS is dead and Trump is POTUS. Happy?

[-] 0 points by grapes (5232) 4 years ago

I think that the 3€ Meow thought can be more divisive than supporting Jill Stein.

Both Red China and White Russia learnt their grave mistakes in the hard way by embracing die fickende Meowism and Stealamism. They've got many tens of millions of citizens' deaths and many decades of lost development to show. DPRK has been following them and has been retarded since the 1950s. Red China woke up in 1979 realizing that it was better to be a whore of Wall Street America. After all, Imperialist Japan had been nuked by the U.S.A. and Nazi Germany had been beaten to pulp by the Red Army (and the U.S., the British Empire, Free France, and many other allies) and both became very prosperous after U.S. domination.

I believe that the U.S.A. had surely committed rapes during wars (why wars need to be prevented) but the victim countries have grown very rich afterwards under Pax Americana (which also enabled the rise of China and East Asia except those stuck with Communism). Contrast West Germany with East Germany. Contrast South Korea and North Korea. They were the Same peoples but living under Different political economic systems. The ones adopting the U.S. style prospered.

Red China might have had an advantage in reaching the 1979 Enlightenment. In Hong Kong, Singapore, and Nationalist China allied with the U.S.A., their predominantly Chinese people all prospered greatly. It's Not the people that matter, it's the System.

The U.S.A. itself proved this very well, too. A Kenyan student mated with Obama's Mom. A Syrian student mated with Steve Jobs's Birth Mom. Even the lowliest refugees whom the U.S. had taken in as kids fared vastly better per capita than the native-borns in entrepreneurial success. Of course, I'm Not disparaging the native-borns either because who uphold the System, really? Not Kenyans, Not Syrians, (yeah, our young women got fucked but they chose well - foreign fathers but American System - "Never forget that you are American") it's Americans of all kinds (mostly native-borns)!