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Posted 11 months ago on April 26, 2013, 5:11 p.m. EST by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT
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Subject: The Case To Impeach: Senators John McCain (R-Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Representative Peter King (R-N.Y.)

Hi,

If it is acceptable for one of our children to be declared an Enemy Combatant, and so held indefinitely, then any of our children may treated in like manner under similar circumstance, and we do not perceive clearly where all of this may end.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia has stated the case very clearly in HAMDI v. RUMSFELD: The very core of liberty secured by our Anglo-Saxon system of separated powers has been freedom from indefinite imprisonment . . .

That's why I created a petition to The United States House of Representatives, The United States Senate, and President Barack Obama.

Will you sign this petition? Click here:

http://signon.org/sign/the-case-to-impeach-senators?source=c.em.cp&r_by=7675197

Thanks!

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Previously on this subject:

Any comments on the Movement to Impeach?

Representative King Ups The Game

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[-] 7 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago
[-] 3 points by gsw (2727) 11 months ago

Signed. Great effort.

How bout Impeachment petitions for --

--those that didn't allow a background checks - vote

  • that won't breakup banks
[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

Sounds interesting - but I think you have to articulate how this fits the definition of either a high crime or misdemeanor.

Make the case.

[-] 1 points by gsw (2727) 11 months ago

For supporting special interest over national interest, which violates spirit of founding documents.

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/all-in-/51682858/

The People may hold accountable next elections, regardless.

[-] 3 points by BradB (2693) from Washington, DC 11 months ago

done :)

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

Thanks man

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

Signed and Tweeted:

What I added:

Do not support those in office who are trying to destroy the Constitution of these United States of America. Do not support those in office who are working to take away our rights. WHOSE RIGHTS??? The Peoples RIGHTS - RIGHTS OF THE CITIZEN. While the four named would be a start for rightful Impeachment. There are many more in office working against the interests of The People of The United States of America that should also be removed from office and from government appointed positions.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

thanks man

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 11 months ago

No.

Thank You.

This kinda action should be talked about and forwarded/circulated for action repeatedly.

Thanks for placing it here.

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

17 signers so far - thanks to everyone their participation thus far, but we are a long way from ten million . . .

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 months ago

Someone replied back to me that other congressmen have to Impeach, but that right now we have only Zombie Majority in Congress....

Here is an article about a Documentary Film "Unclaimed" about an American Soldier captured in Vietnam, listed as MIA/Killed, who still lives in Vietnam today, and who the US Government doesn't want back.

http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/movies/2013/04/25/hot_docs_premiere_unclaimed_finds_a_vietnam_veteran_left_behind_for_44_years.html

“It’s not that the Vietnamese won’t let him (Robertson) go; it’s that our government doesn’t want him.”

Robertson was fingerprinted at a U.S. embassy in 2010. Faunce says he was later told, “There’s not enough proof to prove this is John Hartley Robertson. And I responded, ‘There’s not enough proof to prove he isn’t.’”

[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

Does he still have family in the states?

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 months ago

Yes, he only speaks Vietnamese now. He married a Vietnamese woman after the torture in a cage. He has some Vietnamese kids as well. The story is a little confusing to me. Sounds like he met an aunt maybe in Canada. But they say now his former wife and kids are not interested in being with him or seeing him. His kids in the States don't remember him or have any memories of him, I guess.

He seems to have scars of old injuries and is now suffering a little dementia. So... anyway I guess he just is happy to have seen some family before he dies.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

his family stateside has no interest?

thats kinda sad

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 months ago

Yes, you are right. It might have been like 1966, so figure 50 years has gone by.

I read the article, the family was interested, then changed it's mind. Like maybe Government Agents contacted them and scared them off.

Then I read where a couple of older people were in a terrible accident a few days after meeting with the man in Canada (I think). They were old neibors who remembered the man and the man remembered the neibor working in the Drug store. But again it looked like a clean up operation. A car accident within days.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

that timing does sound fishy

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 months ago

They said he was Special Forces on a Secret Mission to Laos when his plane was shot down. I sort of draw a blank on why he would need to go into Laos. But I think we still have landmines killing & maiming civilians in Laos. In fact Anthony Burdain went to Laos and had dinner with a man who lost a leg.

I guess Viet Cong & North Vietnamese Army would seek sanctuary or set up logistics in Cambodia & Laos. The US may have even worked toward entering Cambodia in the last 10-15 years to recover remains that might have been US Service men....

Trust your government, they only tell the truth. Isn't there a famous Nixon Speech where he says there are no American Soldiers in Cambodia & Laos? I probably have a couple of details wrong. But I guess they admit the Gulf of Tonkin Incident was a US Fabrication. You still will never hear a Federal Official or Military Office of the USA talk about secret NATO Armies ... of which the USA was always the most influence member, most powerful after WWII, in charge of Fascist & Nazi Prisoners & Criminals, and the biggest Banker in NATO.

Sure, you can Trust the Government.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

of course you can . . .

[-] 2 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 months ago

Hey, I got a bridge to sell. Know anyone that might be interested. Matter of fact... I'm a little short on cash right now. I'd be willing to sell the bridge with high traffic volume as an opportunity for toll revenue to an OWS Foundation on a monthly payment plan. Land Contract is what it is called. I just need to set monthly payments up as $19,000 per month. I get a contract signed & we execute the contract with the first $19,000 payment.

It is all about trust. In fact the bridge is in New York... I can't reveal the location to the public at this time. I got the bridge after a public private partnership thing was done in the 1970s... that guy gave it up last year when he couldn't pay for the repairs that had already been done by my guys. So I got this bridge in a lawsuit I won.

But the bridge is old so I can't sell it out right in this economy. So, here it is a special deal for some lucky group or lucky guy. It is up in Brooklyn that is all I can tell you.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

A bridge! how novel . . . I've never owned a bridge . . .

how are the taxes?

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 months ago

No Idea. I've never been to New York. Maybe I was just trying a thought experiment. Or trying to get creative this the Idea of Trust and how a great percentage of people believe we have a bunch of nice guys in Congress and that we only go to war for the best reasons.

As I understand it the Vietnam War did not end because we have a bunch of "Nice Guys" in Congress. As I understand it the Vietnam War ended and US Workers got RIghts because of Public Activism and Protests.

How can we get John McCain (son of Cain), Lindsey Graham (the Evil One)), Kelly Ayotte (the Devils Apprentice) and Peter King (the Corruptor) Impeached or Kicked out of Office?

Assuming they are too smart to put things in writing or be recorded saying they are in a conspiracy.... that means a private detective wouldn't come up with any evidence.

1) Maybe we could find Whistleblowers outside of their offices in the Federal Government or in Banking. Like John McCain pushing for a Military Contract that the Military does want....

2) Or maybe some computer hacker could find information some where to expose them.

3) I guess the Basis of Impeachment is these 4 Amigos are Violating the US Constitution or Making False Claims to get the USA into war with Iran, Syria, and others. Maybe a Lawsuit against these 4 would provide a "Discovery Period" where documents and computers could be examined....

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

may.be . . .

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 months ago

Too many maybes. Hey did you hear that Mueller the Director of the FBI was getting flack about his job performance. We got to get him out of there. He is like the 2nd longest serving Director in FBI History.

I see it as an Opportunity. Eventhough Mueller is former Marine Corps and might never write a book or come clean about the USA and our Government.... There is a chance that he could be a kind of Whistleblower....

How do we create more Whisleblowers ... except for asking for people in the MIC, DHS, CIA, NSA, and Directors in all parts of the Federal Government "Be Fired" when things happen.

Like this Boston Massacre... We should see people get Fired for having two explosions. They spent all that money... Wehave this new $50 Billion dollar agency DHS.... We have all of these agencies with Dogs, bomb sniffers, K-9 handlers, paramilitary contractors walking around .... They spent a Million dollars on this one event ... then spent millions more doing house to house searches and locking down the cities.

Let's find out what those security contracts cost for this event. Then let's fire people.

[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

supposedly they waited for the dogs to pass by before dropping their bombs.

I say lets ask what the NSA new, when they knew it, and whom did they share it with.

then we can go from there

[-] 1 points by Middleaged (5140) 11 months ago

Yes, let's play these agencies against each other.

We have a Sort of "CIA Trust" and "NSA Trust" since we seldom get information out of them. But look we never get info out of each of the 3 Services Intelligence Agencies either. The Problem with Transparency in Government is like a Military System... Compartmentalized Information. Banking and Corporations runs like this obviously. And Crony Capitalism and Lobbying are like this.

These two man seem to have Airline Records, Immigration & Customs Records to Georgian Republic.

Sounds like State Dept, DHS, NSA, FBI, CIA, Facebook, Google, AT&T, all have records of these guys. If we had a real investigation we should probably fire the heads of all these agencies.

Why Doesn't Boston Police & Boston Government want to ask more questions and get more answers. Could be they want the opportunity for a Federal Job or future support from Federal Agencies and relationships????? Of Course. They have a Conflict of interest.

I'd like to see the NSA Open up or be opened up for information. But Congress only cares about getting gifts and posing for the camera... oh and their insider trading too.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26668) 11 months ago

Signed and sent.

Can we stop torturing people now?

[-] 4 points by ZenDog (20530) from South Burlington, VT 11 months ago

That would be nice. I would like that.