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Forum Post: Free Speech suppression equals oppression

Posted 7 months ago on Aug. 26, 2013, 2:26 p.m. EST by HiddenVoice (-11)
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Me and a friend marched over the Williamsburg Bridge in 2012 fighting for the right to practice free speech. A year later he wrote this, It touched me and I hope it touches you. We occupied and continue to.

Needing a requirement to practice free speech, on the internet is suppression, which equals to oppression. Suppressing the inner most feelings a human can express in the only way they know how. To say something without fear of the opposition is freedom, to say something with fear is courage, because those that may not agree lay in wait for you.

The frontier of battle for the right to say something without retribution in modern society is the internet. People from every part of the world can talk with each other on a public forum. This very natural right as of recently is under attack by governments and website owners. Government spy programs like the NSA and police department have listened in and made people's lives miserable, when they read something they don't agree with. They comb emails, public comments and social media profiles for verbal crimes. Since when does a sarcastic comment like "Oh yeah, I'm real messed up in the head, I'm going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts," is cause to arrest a 19-year-old kid? They arrested him to send a message, "say something we don't like you'll regret it."

Continue reading here: http://tvizion.com/2013/08/26/free-speech-suppression-internet-oppression/

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[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

NICE - But just one thing you might want to change - " People from every part of the world can talk with each other on a public forum. " - you should add - as long as they are not anathema to the forum's purpose - as that will get booted every time.

( But just in case this is from you - OH eternal shill - U know who U R ) that has nothing to do with this forum. PERIOD. ( well except for this part - as long as they are not anathema to the forum's purpose - as that will get booted every time ). As this has never been a place for attackers of OWS/Occupy/the fight to make a better world for all. NO Shill [if that "is" U] you do not get to be allowed to spew crap here - so stop your useless whining about being banned and just go away [ again - if that "is" you shill - go start Ur forum like you always say you should - and just leave here ].

BTW ( ooops - 4 clarification - 2 the post author & friend writer ) - your example of the 19 year old getting arrested - for the sake of clarity - that was not a forum - it was an open social media network. FB ?

[-] 2 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 7 months ago

I think it was on facebook

the example case is more scare than threat

social media is overwhelming any real sense of control by spying.

Threats should not be tolerated as post against other people by the government or otherwise

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

Well I can see where there are legitimate complaints about face book if they are removing such things as posts about the March On Monsanto. I mean why - whats the point - who is it hurting ( unfairly ) ?

[-] 1 points by MattLHolck (16833) from San Diego, CA 7 months ago

fear of genetic differences through technology should be in proportion to any new object introduced into an environment

I would welcome genetic labeling of food.

Monsanto controls the food market through patents on manipulated seed

everyone should be allowed to manipulate their seed

it's not about rewarding some research facility as it is about feeding the people

[-] -3 points by HiddenVoice (-11) 7 months ago

I have no clue what your talking about, but I came here to share a post my friend wrote about that included images we took marching across the Williams-burg Bridge with OSW in 2012.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

Not a prob - work on your reading comprehension - as what I said about the post - was - GOOD. Except for the qualifiers ( which were not directed at the post ) which were directed at an eternal forum shill ( I give you the benefit of the doubt that you are not the shill). and Except for the addition about forum access. That was for updating your post - but is intended as a positive note. I even added a note for clarity on that arrest you reference.

SEE?

Not so difficult if you take the time to think about what it is that you are reading.

Have a nice day.

[-] -3 points by bridgewalker (-8) 7 months ago

I wrote the bridge story. I just sent a complaint to the site owners. Your behavior is arrogant, trollish, and not an Occupy way of greeting new occupiers on the forum. Who do you think you are?

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

OH - and - BTW - sorry again - I was not trying to be insulting with that whole reading comprehension thing - but when I saw that you obviously missed all of the qualifiers directing certain things specifically at someone else - and that you missed the good that was directed at the post........ Well I just thought that you might appreciate my pointing out this error to you.

Anyway - sunshine and all "natural" Popsicle s to you - have a splendiferous day.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

You mean Hiddenvoice didn't post the story? BTW - you have nothing to be outraged about. I saw a couple of mistakes in your(?) post and pointed them out. As for the rest of the comment as you can see ( you can - can't you? ) it was not aimed at Hiddenvoice. So - take a few deep breaths and calm down.

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[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

OH sorry did not want to seem like I was ignoring your question: " Did you even read Hidden's post "

Yes - yes I did read the post and that was where I noticed two errors and thought that you ( I mean Hiddenvoice and you ) missed them and would appreciate the opportunity to make corrections.

Anyway you 2 just have a glorious day now.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

OK that is all you needed to say = Hiddenvoice posted a story that I wrote.

Huh U 2 just hangin out together today?

Calm down bridgewalker - Heh - unless of course ( and this is not aimed at U ) U R the eternal shill that haunts this forum - in which case I would advise that eternal shill - to build the bridges between it's synapses as it could apparently use the help in making connections.

Have a nice day.

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[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

I wrote to abuse@occupywallst.org

Well of course - that is what one should do. Let me know how that goes for ya - I mean if no notice is sent out by the site - that is.

BTW - your a mighty touchy fellow - that is if you are for real - because why should you take offense at something that is very obviously not directed at you or your friend.

Anyway - You have a nice day now.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

OH and not to leave you and hidden further mystified. The original comment - with the qualifiers - well that was expressly aimed at that eternal shill - as you C - it likes to try to open a door with what appears to be a good and legitimate issue ( and it very well might be - a good legitimate issue ) and then getting established/accepted will then start to twist and turn it's message - anyway if you hang out long enough - I am sure that you will get a further education.

Sunshine and lollipops for you - have a nice day.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 months ago

OH - sorry - a follow-up on that explanation ( http://occupywallst.org/forum/free-speech-suppression-equals-oppression/#comment-997362 ) of what the eternal shill does.

I mentioned that it likes to - "it likes to try to open a door with what appears to be a good and legitimate issue"

I guess that what I forgot to add in that explanation - IS - "The shill" attempts these things by pretending to be a new individual to the site ( pretends to be like you a new person ) even to creating other individuals ( obviously played by himself ) to generate a discussion ( again if you missed it - with it's self - it is quite obsessed with this forum ).

Funny thing when it does this ( until it gets found out - again & again & again & .... ) It will at times pretend to be outraged at getting attacked ( help me help me ) and ask if this is how new comers to the forum are treated ( that is why I made sure to let you know - in my comments - that these - the qualified comments - were not directed at you or your friend - and that I was giving you the benefit of the doubt - as to being new to the forum ).

Unfortunate and sad I know - that posts and comments and new(?) individuals must be taken with a grain of salt. But at least now you know.

BTW - anything back on your complaint?

Anyway - sunshine blue skies and warm happy puppy dog hugs for you - Have an awesome day. {:-])

[-] 1 points by forourfutures (393) 7 months ago

No one remembers the usenet, which was guaranteed free speech.

http://occupywallst.org/forum/who-remembers-the-usenet-before-dot-com-took-over/

No one knows the purpose of free speech so when someone tries to use it for its highest purpose everyone is confused. Or pretends to be in the case of an infiltrating agent of the 1%

[-] 1 points by shooz (26717) 7 months ago

What's the Illuminati doing in all of that?

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[-] -3 points by Shayneh10 (-19) from Jersey City, NJ 7 months ago

This site should practice this - if you post on this site and if you post is not liked based on "points" it immediately is sent to a "shadow ban".

Sort of like the "school yard bully" .

[-] -2 points by HiddenVoice (-11) 7 months ago

Everyone doesn't agree on everything.