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Forum Post: Fracking, the Story Continues

Posted 9 months ago on July 20, 2013, 11:56 a.m. EST by shooz (26733)
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From a former Mobile VP.

Appalled at the prospect of fracking in and around Lake Otsego

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/17605-former-mobil-vp-warns-of-fracking-and-climate-change

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[-] 5 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

We have a problem.

The Obama administration is about to make a big decision about fracking in our national forests and on some of the most amazing public lands in our country.

And we know what this could mean.

Acres of pristine forestland could be destroyed. Toxic wastewater could be spilled, endangering critical ecosystems and wildlife. Drinking water could be contaminated. (It has happened before.)

Think about it -- toxic drilling in some of the most beautiful places in our country?

Not on our watch. Help us send 30,000 messages to President Obama to ban fracking in our national forests and on our public lands.

It’s critical we act now.

As I write this, the U.S. Department of the Interior is finalizing the details on rules for fracking in national forests and on public lands, and with the oil and gas industry wielding its influence, we must make it clear that Americans across the country won’t just stand by and watch this happen.

Will you send a quick message to the president?

Former Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar said last month to a conference of landowners and drilling companies that fracking has not “created an environmental problem for anyone.”

You and I know that’s wrong. We've seen wastewater flow thousands of feet through pastures to waterways. Blowouts and explosions spew toxic chemicals hundreds of feet in the air. The toxic pollution from drilling sites knows no bounds.

Now imagine these events happening in a place like the White River National Forest in Colorado, home to wildlife, amazing fishing and hunting spots, and rivers that provide drinking water for millions downstream.

There is simply no way to allow fracking in on our public lands without putting our health and environment at risk.

Stand up for our forests and public lands today.

Yours,

Margie Alt Executive Director Environmen​t America

P.S. Our national forests and public lands are some of the best parts of our country. They’re where we go to hike and camp with our families. We’re starting to turn the tide on fracking, and have won major victories against the drillers before. We have to act now before dirty drilling changes our forests and public lands forever.

[-] 4 points by shooz (26733) 1 month ago

When all the water in Texas is full of fracking fluids, something might be done. I stress "MIGHT".

Perhaps when the earthquakes get strong enough to start knocking things over?

But then again, I'm bound to get voted down for pointing out this.....

Koch Industries.

http://gas2.org/2014/01/27/tesla-supercharger-network-now-cover-coast-coast-drive/

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/03/02/436669/how-the-kochs-are-fracking-america/

And then there's ALEC. I'm never supposed to mention their involvement in anything at all.

Perhaps if I add in the Halliburton connection?

http://ecowatch.com/2013/06/27/halliburton-alec-push-fracking-legislation-north-carolina/

Nah.....nobody will notice.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Like I said on another post - protesting is in and of itself - NOT enough. The Public has also got to push solutions - alternatives to fossil fuel that are not only viable - but are immediately available to implement = Tesla for 1 viable immediately available alternative.

We can not count on our government to do the right thing - WE HAVE TO TELL THEM WHAT NEEDS TO GET DONE AND HOW TO DO IT.

I sent off a note pretty much saying the same thing to Avaaz as they were conducting a poll asking what we feel we should do going forward.

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 1 month ago
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Only one legal way at the moment - BOOT EM OUT OF OFFICE

[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 1 month ago

That would be nice, except that they are not in office. They just own many of them.

[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago
[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 1 month ago

LOL. Wishful thinking?

Remember that tax INCREASE the teabagge(R)s foisted on me, so they could give co(R)porations a BIGGER tax break, so they would "create" more jobs?

Part of those tax BREAKS went to Marathon, ( the co(R)poration of pet coke renown), to the tune of $175 million.

Net job increase?

15

The rest you can be assured, went to CEOs and "investors" (Wallstreet), because you know they aren't paying "workers" that money.

http://www.freep.com/article/20140314/NEWS01/303140013/Tax-break-for-Marathon-refinery-expansion-fails-to-bring-jobs-for-Detroit-residents-city-officials-say

PS, all they did with the pet coke, was move it down river to a community with less press exposure.

It's still on the shores of the river.

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[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4024) 1 month ago

Signed. Corporate Imperialism continues on.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Hopefully those days are coming to a swift end. They must.

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[-] 2 points by shooz (26733) 1 month ago
[-] 1 points by shooz (26733) 1 month ago

that story is almost 2 years old and it's mostly about this.

http://enenews.com/newspaper-giant-deposits-of-bps-oil-on-or-beneath-the-floor-of-the-gulf-devastating-fallout-of-spill-continues-an-ecological-calamity

Not everything on the site is trust worthy, but the seismic readings are for real, and the sinkhole is still growing.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

"Even if wastewater injection only directly affects a low-hazard fault, those smaller events could trigger an event on a larger fault nearby," she told Live Science.

Good one to post = actually says fracking is not just pollution of the environment on a large scale - but is also the cause of many earthquakes and could ( will ? ) even set off a major quake.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

And they are wondering why all of the starfish are dieing? Mystery solved!

[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4024) 1 month ago

Exactly.

[-] 2 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

Makes me so damn angry - corp(se)oRATions playing dumb & aided/abetted by the EPA.

[-] 3 points by Nevada1 (4024) 1 month ago

Wondering if we are only seeing, the 'tip of the iceberg', regarding what all is really going on.

[-] 3 points by DKAtoday (33128) from Coon Rapids, MN 1 month ago

No need to wonder - THERE IS NO DOUBT !!! We are only seeing a small portion of the tip of the ice-berg.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26733) 1 month ago
[-] 2 points by Nevada1 (4024) 9 months ago

Good post shooz. It says so much.

[-] 2 points by shooz (26733) 9 months ago

On spilled bitumin, in Alberta.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/07/19/nobody_understands_ongoing_spills_at_alberta_oilsands_operation.html

It's the stuff, people most want to ignore.