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Thread: Looks like TRUMP is the man.
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (32709) from Coon Rapids, MN 4 hours ago

I have sent him a lot of e-mail urging him to do so. I have signed and forwarded a petition asking him to do so.

It only makes sense to me that he would to be able to continue the race no matter what the f'ed up DNC decides to do.

He won Indiana tonight = an open primary.

I think people should rally to invalidate closed primaries as being un-democratic!

Thread: Looks like TRUMP is the man.
[-] 1 points by Shule (2511) 5 hours ago

i hope Bernie will do that.

Indianna .. YAY Hoosiers! Let's celebrate this victory, and shoot some rings ;-)..tomorrow and contemplate our strategy going forward. I'll replace one of the worn-out nets on the town basketball court, my chosen community service job. They're overdue....

Thread: A note of encouragement for Bernie to continue his run through November as Dem or Ind
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (32709) from Coon Rapids, MN 7 hours ago

[EDIT] Indiana an open primary

Bernie currently leads as of 7:26 central time 52.1 to 47.9

Open Primary

Who woulda thought?

EDIT-> What would the picture look like if closed primaries were invalidated?

Mx. Cheese has far too much of a cavalier attitude toward secret intelligence matters. She may despise the pesky intelligence agencies but she absolutely has to work well with them if she were to succceed. Donald Rumsfeld had friction with the Pentagon so we got the very awful fiasco in Iraq. I don't want floundering in distrust and incompetence.

Joining forces with like-minded allies such as the Green Party makes sense but pivoting takes time and that's running out. I suspect that Bernie still has a stunning showstopper coming in California to trounce Mx. Cheese if he stays on the demonkrapts' track (which I presume he will). However, the machine will probably cut him out ultimately. Unless he goes third party, GOOP Pump is probably coming for real!

Wein nicht, meine kleine Geliebte.

Your link should have been: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/29/the-push-to-make-sanders-the-green-partys-candidate/

Thread: "Weapons of Mass Distraction", by Dennis Kucinich
[-] 1 points by grapes (4335) 1 day ago

Venezuela is in very hot water now despite its owning the world's greatest proven reserve of oil. Not only can Communism and Fascism fail due to the disrespect of properties, so can Socialism and Internationalism. Without the proper technology and sufficient infrastructure to convert oil to electricity, Venezuela gets frequent blackouts, every Friday off for people, and two weeks of two-day workweek for public sector workers. Resources staying in the ground not made usable to the people do them no good.

How did it get into such a mess? Disrespect of properties by Hugo Chavez!

P.S. People used bigger leaves before there was tissue paper and Venezuela being so well endowed with fertile land, forests, etc. should have some leaves suitable for that. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

I agree, "Sanders supporters are passionate about the Polictical Revolution." And to my bad, I didn't entirely understand what that term encompassed. I just passed it off as campaign rhetoric, although I think I have always advocated for it. Already, not only the MSM, but even some of the alternative media are writing a faux script that adheres to the beliefs of the PTB want us to have. To a big degree, people have become much more astute, so it is being ignored.... Errr, I guess I'm not the only one to be eating dark chocalate to boost my cognitive powers....lol

The one mistake that I can see that I have made is in being too hasty advocating for Sanders, to move away from his Democratic run for nomination. At this point, on second thought, I would not want him to give up the soapbox that it provides. And although, I don't see the FBI indicting Clinton, mostly because I believe them to be a joke who save their energies for busting whistleblowers like Elliot Spitzer instead ........ who knows what could come up, and Sanders become the beneficiary of.... as long as he doesn't pull out. Alternative, important preparations could be made simultaneously to the the convention.... though..

The Push to Make Sanders the Green Party Candidate...... I like this link

knohttp://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/29/the-push-to-make-sanders-the-green-partys-candidate/s

Thread: Looks like TRUMP is the man.
[-] 1 points by grapes (4335) 1 day ago

If California be our true love, the Queen, there will be a contested convention, likely followed by Bernie's holocaust. I'll then press '3' on our globalized world's helpline for T. Rex to barge through the bamboo wall of China to devour Mx. Cheese sitting on the toilet. Jurassic Park will give rise to the Cretaceous Period in which the laboratory mice will discover that chuckie cheese is better.

Thread: Looks like TRUMP is the man.
[-] 1 points by DKAtoday (32709) from Coon Rapids, MN 2 days ago

Bernie can still register as an independent prior to May 9th and continue on to the general election. At the general election - the millions of his supporters who were disenfranchised at the closed primaries will be able to vote for him. Yep independents as well as registered & disenfranchised democrats as well as disenfranchised republicans.

Thread: Looks like TRUMP is the man.
[-] 1 points by Shule (2511) 2 days ago

Good for Bernie, but the fact is that the Hag will be selected to be the Democratic nominie. Even if Bernie wins every primary remaining, and wins every delegate left, he still will not have enough to win. Bernie is for all practical purposes already history. So, the only real question is should one pull the lever for Trump, pull the lever for the Pshyco-Hag who is going to start WWIII, or do we just say screw it, and stay in bed on election day?

Because thats who the parties operate. They haen't been around for 100 years by accident, they are very good at maintaining control. I worked pretty deep in that 08 campaign, and was really more interested in how they manage the race, as opposed to all the exterior fluff.

Solidarity for Mayday, 2016 BUT come on now turbo .. Bernie ''tells them'' a shit lot more than ''keep a Republican out of the whitehouse''! Holy Shit man - wtf should we call Hitlary Rotten Clinton - A Liberal pro-99% Progressive?!! NO - HRC is a fkn RWNJ .. with some b-s liberal wash who isn't a full on crazy racist ... just a more subtle Beast For Oligarchy!!! Now with embedded links referring to Gar Alperovitz:

So what's your evidence for .. ''The organization that Bernie built is all owned by the Dems. The emails, the registrations, the tracking and the information''? I've got to scoot but I will reply later and remember:

at spes non fracta ...

Thread: Reeving, Rhingling and Rhythmatic Profit
[-] 1 points by ImNotMe (1488) 2 days ago

This - ''focus on the mosquitos of parasitic/lazy poor people on welfare that are biting your ankle, while the saurian super predators are eating your children'' ... is manufactured and maintained by Oligarchy's Corporate MSM ''Mind Managing'' Turkeys To Vote For Thanksgiving!!! I really loved your comment tho'!! SOLIDARITY 4 Mayday 2016! Finally, in compliment of your comment, forum-post and excellent link ...

per ardua ad astra ...

"Bernie Sanders: The Warning Shot Of The Impending Revolution'':

''Feel The Bern .... There's An Inferno On The Way''! Yes, from Sanders to DNC - "You didn't give me a fair chance, you didn't take me or my constituents seriously, you simply tried to use us. I/we - owe you nothing"!! There are a lot of early OWS people with & around Bernie & the ''Progressive Peoples' Party'' (or whatever they choose to call it) idea is NOT lost on anyone - as Democraps have probably been co-opted by Oligarchy & Corporations - beyond redemption & Duopoly Has Got To Go!!! + From your link:


''A new, independently financed political party could make Sanders' call for "political revolution" and his claim that he is trying to build a movement more than a dream boldly proclaimed by an inspiring, if not quixotic, leader. It could deliberately seek to unify our currently fragmented movement cultures and operate as a vehicle for the substantive promise of Sanders' "political revolution": deep institutional and cultural reform. Doing so, it could begin to fulfill our country's lofty aspirations: a society truly ruled by the people with meaningful input available to everyone, absent discrimination on any basis -- race, gender, sexuality, nationality or religion.

''Most importantly, perhaps, an independently financed party could seek to define this broad policy platform, not primarily through the input of elite power brokers funneled through the corporate-financed media and think tank complex, but with the input of grassroots leaders already engaged in building such a society.

''Sanders has already repeatedly vowed to remain in the Democratic primary until the convention in July, a scenario that basically every electoral pundit determines is far more likely than not. This buys the Sanders campaign at least another three months to build name recognition and fundraising as it continues to advertise on TV, to receive news coverage, even if it is disproportionately minimal, and to travel across the country to physically deliver its message to American voters.

The ''Sanders campaign could create its own media and information mechanism. It could set up something like a 24-hour YouTube channel -- the platform does not matter -- and invest significant resources (tens of millions of dollars) for professionally produced coverage of Sanders' campaigning. This could include extensive interviews with the actual people turning out to support Sanders on the campaign trail, creating self-producing, crowdsourced political education materials produced by and for the people who support Sanders' candidacy.

''The Sanders campaign could also use this independent media platform for political education and awareness, and to amplify movement-building already underway.

''All kinds of experts and practitioners could appear on the channel to explain the problems we face -- campaign finance, income inequality, institutional racism, environmental degradation, permanent US war -- along with the potential institutional solutions to them that basically don't get any air time on the corporate mass media.

Eg: ''Practitioners and policy experts from the New Economy Coalition, [ http://neweconomy.net/ ] like Gar Alperovitz, who is also a cofounder of the Next System Project, [ http://thenextsystem.org/ ] could discuss economic democracy and institutional strategies to create widely shared wealth. Alperovitz helped to create the Evergreen Cooperatives, a network of cooperatives in Cleveland, Ohio, that has used the purchasing power of quasi-public hospitals and universities to create community and worker-owned cooperatives, employing people in Cleveland's impoverished inner city and financed by a cooperatively controlled investment fund.

''Simply by naming our corrupt campaign finance system and our historic income and wealth inequality, the Sanders campaign has generated more electoral support than anyone ever imagined was possible.''


On this May Day 2016 ... I encourage all who read here to read that Truth-Out Link [ http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/35644-how-sanders-could-lay-the-foundation-for-a-third-us-political-party ] & look forward to a time when The 99% Educate; Agitate & Organize to ''Lose Our Chains'' ;-) SOLIDARITY!

dum spiro, spero et per aspera ad astra ...

The people feel the allegiance to Bernie, for sure. So if he tells them that the most important thing is to keep a Republican out of the whitehouse- something he is already repeatedly saying- then everyone falls in line with Clinton.

The organization that Bernie built is all owned by the Dems. The emails, the registrations, the tracking and the information.

Thread: Reeving, Rhingling and Rhythmatic Profit
[-] 2 points by agkaiser (1534) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

if all the money, property and goods (except enough for a comfortable life) were taken from those who have thousands of times more than is needed to live well, it might not be enough to raise all the world's poor from poverty. but it would make a good start.

if one has a thousand times what's needed for a good life and 500 have only enough to slow death a little, half of what the one now has would make life good for the 500.

tax the rich!

Thread: Reeving, Rhingling and Rhythmatic Profit
[-] 2 points by agkaiser (1534) from Fredericksburg, TX 2 days ago

if all the money, property and goods (except enough for a comfortable life) were taken from those who have thousands of times more than is needed to live well, it might not be enough to raise all the world's poor from poverty. but it would make a good start.

if one has a thousand times what's needed for a good life and 500 have only enough to slow death a little, half of what the one now has would make life good for the 500.

tax the rich!

Thread: Reeving, Rhingling and Rhythmatic Profit
[-] 2 points by beautifulworld (22396) 3 days ago

Education should NEVER be for profit or at the hands of "philanthropists" who seek to control the minds of every American going forward. Wake up, America. Education is a human right and we have plenty of money to fund it fairly and publicly.

Just because someone like Bill Gates ripped us all off by overcharging for his products and got extremely wealthy doesn't mean he gets to now decide who gets immunizations and who gets an education. Charity perpetuates a sick system that does not work for all people. Charity puts people at the mercy of others. It's shameful, especially in the richest country in the history of the world.

Thread: Looks like TRUMP is the man.
[-] 1 points by beautifulworld (22396) 3 days ago

Truth! And, young people simply do not watch or listen to MSM at all! So, while we've made great progress in the political revolution that we need, I think, once these kids are a bit older and the old status quo farts that are in office die off, this revolution is inevitable. But, we forge on to try to bring it about sooner.....because the sooner the better, for all of us.

All these voting rules really are such a load of crap. Good that you know what you need to do. I think there will be a real movement of people away from the Democratic Party if Bernie doesn't make it. And, he does still have a narrow and possible path to victory at the Dem Convention.

This is long, but some guy outlined Bernie's chances in detail. It's interesting.

https://johnlaurits.com/2016/04/28/this-is-what-will-happen-at-the-democratic-convention/

Thread: Reeving, Rhingling and Rhythmatic Profit
[-] 2 points by agkaiser (1534) from Fredericksburg, TX 3 days ago
  • The libertarian fools among you see nothing wrong with that. You focus on the mosquitos of parasitic/lazy poor people on welfare that are biting your ankle, while the saurian super predators are eating your children.

Agreed. Well put. It's time to be bold. He's come this far, we must encourage Bernie to go all the way. Let's make this happen. He can do it if we are all behind him. Third party! Break free of the duopoly and their stinking rules!

Bernie Sanders supporters are passionate about the Political Revolution and they understand that having success with it will be very difficult in the duopoly status quo system as is. I think he'd have a huge following to a third party. The organization for it is created at this point and his people feel an allegiance to him, but also very much to his ideas and his platform, and they really don't give a shit about allegiance to a "party" especially one that has let them down for so many years.

Also, there is an argument to be made that a "third party" President would have a much easier time working with the Congress and the Senate than one that is partisan in the gridlocked duopoly.

I think those are both great choices. He should choose one of them, or possible Tulsi Gabbard, and either declare he's going Green or declare the new name of his new third party as well!

It's onward and upward. The movement doesn't stop with Bernie though we really prefer him in it!

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