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You are talking about the trigger event, not the root causes. The root causes for what has been done to the USPS happened over the course of decades where our ethos as a nation has eroded to put profit over people at any cost.

Thread: Tiny House Living, Off the Grid? Here's How to Do it in Style
[-] 1 points by flip (4965) 52 minutes ago

you hit the nail on the head here. I am not sure why he is allowed to continue in this manner. someone at the top of the food chain must like what he does. things are removed that are not at all insulting or against the rules but he keeps on! ignoring him is the right tactic.

Thread: stepehn cohen says shame on Obama
[-] 2 points by flip (4965) 57 minutes ago

wow, thanks - we had a reasonable back and forth. thanks again - cohen is probably the most knowledgeable Russia/soviet commentator in mainstream media - he doesn't get much play but he is still in the elite circles. he is saying the wrong thing on Ukraine so we don't hear him much. very dangerous situation in Ukraine and the real Nazis are in power. I sent you some reports - this is very much in the news in germany and the eu. I hope we can agree on this - Nazis are not to be tolerated

yes Nixon lied as did kennedy, Reagan (well maybe not reagan, I don't think he knew much), bush, clinton and Obama - did I leave anyone out. since you are on an anarchist website I assumed you had some understand of history and possibly even read izzy stone. howard zinn is a great place to start - HOWARD ZINN: But the question is, how did they get away with it? What about the press? What about the media? Isn't it the job of the press, isn't it the job of the media, isn't it the job of journalism to expose what governments do? Don't journalists learn from I.F. Stone, who said, "Just remember two words," he said to young people who were studying journalism, he said, "Just remember two words: governments lie"?

not surprised we sound the same but I have a western ny accent

I keep forgetting how ignorant you are - you must have gone to a "good school" to be so uneducated. read orwell's "homage to catalonia" to start - here is your ruling class at work - A major factor contributing to this conspicuously long period of non-confrontation is the fact that FDR and U.S. leaders in general viewed the rise of fascism sympathetically. The extreme nationalism characteristic of fascist regimes welcomed Western economic penetration and persecuted labor and the political left to the point of eradication, an agenda that U.S. state managers and wealthy American investors found to be a proper antidote to "excessive democracy," that is, almost any democracy at all. For his part, FDR preferred fascism to any variety of socialism or robust social democracy, largely equating these social forms with Bolshevik heresy. Therefore, it is not really surprising that for years he approved Hitler as a "moderate" who represented order, anti-Communism, and a favorable investment climate, a welcome obstacle to any possibility of radicalization of the allegedly unthinking masses.

FDR’s preference for Hitler, rather than the radical left, was shared by the U.S. corporate class in general. This is evidenced by the fact that U.S. investment shot up in Germany while the Nazis rose to power, despite the Depression and Germany's default on nearly all of its commercial and government loans. Commerce Department reports indicate that U.S. investment in Germany increased 48.5% between 1929 and 1940, while declining sharply everywhere else on the continent. Moreover, many U.S. companies traded with Germany right through the war years - with Washington's support - even when slave labor was involved. Allied pilots were instructed not to bomb factories in Germany owned by U.S. firms, a policy that in at least one case provided a convenient bomb shelter for German civilians.

U.S. Ambassador to Germany William Dodd's repeated warnings that Hitler's munitions factories were booming on the strength of U.S. raw materials shipments went unheeded. Dodd's loathing of the Third Reich only led to his replacement by Hugh Wilson in 1938, a man much more acceptable to Nazi leaders. Both FDR and his close confidant Sumner Welles praised the Munich capitulation that allowed Hitler to dismember Czechoslovakia, with Welles waxing optimistic about the prospects for a just international order that the accords presumably opened up. Furthermore, official U.S. belief in Hitler's benign intentions continued post-Munich. Writing of Sumner Welles' diplomatic tour of Europe in February 1940, British Permanent Under-Secretary of State Alexander Cadogan wrote: "We had the distinct impression that Welles had in mind an outline for peace which would not require elimination of Herr Hitler's Nazi regime." In April 1941 - nineteen months after the German invasion of Poland - George Kennan wrote from his diplomatic post in Berlin that the Nazis had no desire to "see other people suffer under German rule," and were "most anxious that their new subjects should be happy in their care."

U.S. support for Italian fascism was even more enthusiastic. As the Depression provoked massive civil and political unrest in Europe, Mussolini became a hero in the U.S. for straitjacketing class conflict with armed Blackshirt terrorism while erecting a highly authoritarian investor's paradise. With loans pouring in from the House of Morgan, the Italian dictator increased public debt, slashed social welfare spending, abolished unions, strikes, and the 8-hour day, boosted unemployment and bankruptcy, weakened the lira, and kept Italian wages among the lowest in Europe. As these policies were being carried out, FDR praised Mussolini (in a letter to a friend) as "that admirable Italian gentleman."

Meanwhile, FDR’s Ambassador to Italy William Philips was "greatly impressed by the efforts of Mussolini to improve the condition of the masses" and found "much evidence" to support the Fascist conviction that "they represent a true democracy in as much as the welfare of the people is their principal objective." Philips regarded Mussolini's achievements as "astounding . . . a source of constant amazement," and sang hosannas to his "great human qualities." The Roosevelt State Department hailed his "magnificent" attainments in conquering Ethiopia and praised Fascism for having "brought order out of chaos, discipline out of license, and solvency out of bankruptcy." As late as 1939 FDR rated Italian fascism "of great importance to the world [although] still in the experimental stage

Thread: This Is Hysterical
[-] 2 points by flip (4965) 1 hour ago

sorry that your reading comprehension and logic skills are not up to speed. just because I said Nixon was better in domestic policy than Obama or Clinton doesn't mean I like him. just stating a fact. as to Nazis - you are the hunter - you should know this already - everyone does but not you??
Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis. Stepan Bandera and the Legacy of World War II

By George Eliason

Global Research, March 17, 2014

UkraineFascists

EU politicians that supported the Maidan Revolution are voicing concerns bordering on fear about how much control Ultra Nationalists have over the government in Kiev. Chancellor Merkel’s government is telling her she can no longer afford to ignore the Ultra Nationalists in Ukraine. They are scared Germany will be responsible for setting up a new Reich. It’s time to strip away the rest of the veneer and take a look at what’s really there.

Forget about the Nazi symbolism, and ultra-nationalist exuberance. I will even grant supporters of the current government that much.

Every important ministry, from education and social policy to policing, prosecution and national defense, is headed by Ultra Nationalists. In every aspect of national life, Ultra Nationalists now determine what it means to be Ukrainian and all the policies needed to enforce it.

Even Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk falls among this moderate majority. For generations his own family has had a proud tradition of service to the Ultra- Nationalist cause and has won awards for their service. Before Maidan it hurt his chances for election. After Maidan he didn’t need to worry about election.

What is Scary

In an OpEd in the LA Times, entitled “Ukraine’s Threat from Within,” Director of the School of International Relations at USC Robert English very concisely warns that “the way Ukrainian Ultra Nationalists whitewash Bandera history, which is their past, makes the present and future all that much more scary.”

The Banderas, or Banderites, are activists in the Ukrainian Ultra Nationalist movement that is now in control of the government in Ukraine. Under the militant leadership of Stepan Bandera in World War II, the ultra-nationalists organized the Ukrainian Waffen SS Galician, Nichtengall, and Roland Divisions that collaborated with the Nazis and were responsible for the genocide of over 500,000 people. Following the war, however, Ukrainian Nazis were the only group to escape trial at Nuremburg for crimes against humanity. Moreover, neither the Banderas, the Ukrainian Waffen SS, nor any other Ukrainian collaborators have ever apologized for their participation in genocide.

In the landmark work on the subject , Genocide Committed by Ukrainian Nationalists on the Polish Population During World War II, Ryszard Szawlowski characterizes it this way:

“…the Germans have long admitted to their crimes, and have apologized for them publicly …. [The] president of the Federal Republic of Germany, Roman Herzog, [said] in his speech in Warsaw on August 1, 1994 … ‘I bow before the fighters of the Warsaw Uprising, and before all the Polish war victims. I beg forgiveness for what the Germans did.’ Russian president Boris Yeltsin, when he kissed monsignor Zdzislaw Peszkowski on the hand, whispered the words ‘I apologize’ ….

“Ukrainian genocide committed against the Poles during World War II surpassed German and Soviet genocide …. [It] was marked by the utmost ruthlessness and barbarity, and … up until the present day, it has been denied or, at best, presented with reminders that all is “relative’ or other such evasions.”

Thread: Tiny House Living, Off the Grid? Here's How to Do it in Style
[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20548) from South Burlington, VT 1 hour ago

I'll tell you what . . . you all sound exactly the same to me

even with a phoney British accent

Thread: Tiny House Living, Off the Grid? Here's How to Do it in Style
[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20548) from South Burlington, VT 1 hour ago

You seem to have garnered some minor fixation over this whole affair,

you're the scumbag returning to this, This . . . issue . . . which suggests that you are attempting to . . . capitalize . . . on the way in which the nested comments arrange themselves to provide even further confusion and thus lend some measure of doubt regarding my own credibility.

I don't mind. Does it really look like there are enough disinterested parties running around here to make such a ploy matter?

And if the target is simply my head

well

come take it fuk wad

Thread: Tiny House Living, Off the Grid? Here's How to Do it in Style
[-] 1 points by ZenDog (20548) from South Burlington, VT 1 hour ago

There is no excuse...NONE!.

fuk you you had to go and create a whole new persona just to tell me how badly I behave? That seriously suggests you aren't very committed you your position and that you are depending on five of your alter egos to support you.

Why don't you just kiss my ass.

it is not me - must be my grifter twin

Thread: What if the war whore wins the democratic primary?
[-] 2 points by flip (4965) 1 hour ago

that is your answer to this -

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that's more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price--we think the price is worth it.

--60 Minutes (5/12/96).................do you have any idea of the history of Iraq before we invaded - doesn't sound like it. what are you doing here - what has happened to ows - shame

Thread: stepehn cohen says shame on Obama
[-] 1 points by flip (4965) 1 hour ago

haven't you read the news lately - oh, maybe elite media doesn't want to talk about Nazis in Ukraine - these are the Nazis I was talking about -"Ukraine’s Neo-Nazis. Stepan Bandera and the Legacy of World War II

By George Eliason

Global Research, March 17, 2014 EU politicians that supported the Maidan Revolution are voicing concerns bordering on fear about how much control Ultra Nationalists have over the government in Kiev. Chancellor Merkel’s government is telling her she can no longer afford to ignore the Ultra Nationalists in Ukraine. They are scared Germany will be responsible for setting up a new Reich. It’s time to strip away the rest of the veneer and take a look at what’s really there.

Forget about the Nazi symbolism, and ultra-nationalist exuberance. I will even grant supporters of the current government that much.

Every important ministry, from education and social policy to policing, prosecution and national defense, is headed by Ultra Nationalists. In every aspect of national life, Ultra Nationalists now determine what it means to be Ukrainian and all the policies needed to enforce it.

Even Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk falls among this moderate majority. For generations his own family has had a proud tradition of service to the Ultra- Nationalist cause and has won awards for their service. Before Maidan it hurt his chances for election. After Maidan he didn’t need to worry about election.

What is Scary

In an OpEd in the LA Times, entitled “Ukraine’s Threat from Within,” Director of the School of International Relations at USC Robert English very concisely warns that “the way Ukrainian Ultra Nationalists whitewash Bandera history, which is their past, makes the present and future all that much more scary.”

The Banderas, or Banderites, are activists in the Ukrainian Ultra Nationalist movement that is now in control of the government in Ukraine. Under the militant leadership of Stepan Bandera in World War II, the ultra-nationalists organized the Ukrainian Waffen SS Galician, Nichtengall, and Roland Divisions that collaborated with the Nazis and were responsible for the genocide of over 500,000 people. Following the war, however, Ukrainian Nazis were the only group to escape trial at Nuremburg for crimes against humanity. Moreover, neither the Banderas, the Ukrainian Waffen SS, nor any other Ukrainian collaborators have ever apologized for their participation in genocide.

In the landmark work on the subject , Genocide Committed by Ukrainian Nationalists on the Polish Population During World War II, Ryszard Szawlowski characterizes it this way:

“…the Germans have long admitted to their crimes, and have apologized for them publicly …. [The] president of the Federal Republic of Germany, Roman Herzog, [said] in his speech in Warsaw on August 1, 1994 … ‘I bow before the fighters of the Warsaw Uprising, and before all the Polish war victims. I beg forgiveness for what the Germans did.’ Russian president Boris Yeltsin, when he kissed monsignor Zdzislaw Peszkowski on the hand, whispered the words ‘I apologize’ ….

“Ukrainian genocide committed against the Poles during World War II surpassed German and Soviet genocide …. [It] was marked by the utmost ruthlessness and barbarity, and … up until the present day, it has been denied or, at best, presented with reminders that all is “relative’ or other such evasions.” ................................ STEPHEN COHEN:What is the face of these people, this right wing? A, they hate Europe as much as they hate Russia. Their official statement is: Europe is homosexuals, Jews and the decay of the Ukrainian state. They want nothing to do with Europe. They want nothing to do with Russia. I’m talking about this—it’s not a fringe, but this very right-wing thing. What does their political activity include? It includes writing on buildings in western Ukraine, "Jews live here." That’s exactly what the Nazis wrote on the homes of Jews when they occupied Ukraine. A priest who represents part of the political movement in western Ukraine—Putin quoted this, but it doesn’t make it false. It doesn’t make it false; it’s been verified. A western Ukrainian priest said, "We, Ukraine, will not be governed by Negroes, Jews or Russians." So, these people have now come to the fore.

I checked it out, I guess I'm not sure of what lumio has to offer besides the pie chart?

Anyways, a few things on "how to handle the days assembly" off the top of my head:

Bathrooms- This is an issue that gets addressed sometimes, but when it doesnt, its a problem. Finding stores that will allow it can get you around the port-a-potti rental if needed. We are going through that headache with MAM right now.

March route- Always helps to have a team actually walk the route before hand.

Stength in numbers- try not to plan for a fracturing of the group into too many separate activities. People see the huge crowd and realize a few things from it.

"Anyone have thoughts on the platform?

How to respect privacy, yet confirm that those lending their voice are actual people & in what context to take their participation.."

Thats a very tough obstacle to overcome with online organizing. There is no way to confirm anyone on there, and if there is a vote, who knows who is doing what.

Thread: Operation American Spring
[-] 0 points by Builder (4202) 5 hours ago

The old Removed poster is quite the regular around these parts, eh?

Thread: Congressman Denies Manmade Climate Change
[-] 1 points by grapes (2601) 5 hours ago

Well, well, he has one of those personal-service snow jobs created in the South. Florida will shrink and sink, no surprise there right with all of that methane snow under Florida?

Thread: Operation American Spring
[-] 1 points by gnomunny (5647) from St Louis, MO 5 hours ago

"And then, poof, . . . he's gone."

Keyser Sozë

Thread: stepehn cohen says shame on Obama
[-] 1 points by grapes (2601) 6 hours ago

Who are the "real Nazis" in control of Ukraine? Ukraine suffers from the insufficient control of its restive East. Russia's threatening troop mobilization certainly contributed to the instability there. It may well blow up very badly for everybody in Russia's neighborhood. Russia is NOT living up to its own promise of preserving Ukraine's territorial integrity. Meddling with Ukraine's upcoming election and its political stability will likely blow back at Putin and probably Russia in the long run.

Thread: What if the war whore wins the democratic primary?
[-] 1 points by grapes (2601) 6 hours ago

Yes, I understand "financial math" as the midwife of Bush's "voodoo economics" delivering "zombie banks." Our Congressional attempts to duplicate the magic of the Banach-Tarski paradox is doomed to fail due to its dimensional dissonance so we are actually in better shape than we seem to be. Only our (non-)federal (no-)reserve has the incantation to realize the magic but it may just be a novice at that. The situation is "unprecedented" and a "comprehensive" solution is required but most so-called magicians have long ago become cerberus feed.

Thread: What if the war whore wins the democratic primary?
[-] 1 points by gnomunny (5647) from St Louis, MO 8 hours ago

What matters is not simply a politician's vote, but what kind of person they really are. What does it say about a person when they laugh and giggle with sadistic glee at murder and assassination? She backed the plan to go to war with Syria despite the shakiest of evidence, evidence even top brass in the Pentagon thought didn't hold water. She backed the invasion of Iraq. She wants to go to war with Iran, even if it takes a false flag to instigate it. She's a neocon of the highest order.

Thread: Tiny House Living, Off the Grid? Here's How to Do it in Style
[-] 1 points by gnomunny (5647) from St Louis, MO 9 hours ago

Actually, I don't care. And it seems you're the only one that's suffering from some sort of confusion simply because two men share the same name.

You seem to have garnered some minor fixation over this whole affair, thinking, for instance, that Leo posting this article has somehow "outed" him as another Repelican infiltrator. I find the whole thing bizarre, and it's seems to point to my comment recently that once you see the name of some Republican politician, the thinking half of your brain shuts down.

Thread: Tiny House Living, Off the Grid? Here's How to Do it in Style
[-] 4 points by cordoba (4) from West Point, NY 9 hours ago

Let me get this straight...err.. you believe that hc.. convinced the Burlington GA to change their location without telling you....and that is why you went home sulking and transformed yourself into a partisan Democrat .... laughing. From having witnessed your ugly demeanor on here, I think it is far more likely that it was a concerted effort to move the GA without telling you. lol

There is no excuse...NONE!..for the way that you conduct yourself on here. The vulgarities &, the mean-spiritedness that you direct at other peoples of the World and to posters on here proves to most of us what a low-life you are.

Your willingness, even your glee at prostituting yourself by saying some really mean, vulgar shit to people (knowing you have impunity) simply because they are not partisan Democrats is extremely telling of the type of person you are.

And your belief that intermittently that you are a word artist makes me laugh too....because what I see is someone who is just a verbose bag of wind who uses far too many words to say far too little.

Finally in your obvious quest ....with your juvenile self-aggrandizing (amusing) tactics.... to be an important cog in this rev, you have achieved just the opposite with that behavior & your baseness. You have become irrelevant...and there is not much worse than that...

I will do my best to ignore you, and I would suggest other posters do the same.

In closing, although i am far from perfect, I would not want your legacy for all the Tea in China...

Thread: This Is Hysterical
[-] 2 points by nazihunter (583) 9 hours ago

These guys are being too tough on you. Just because you hate Obama and Kennedy and love Nixon and Schultzey and Bush and you won't take on the right about any of their bullshit, doesn't mean you're a Nazi. I mean you scolded those mean Ukrainians for their anti-semitic remarks. So, what right? That doesn't mean you're good at the same kind of double talk we've come to expect from the right. No? OK, Now you say Kennedy likes the 1%? Their tax rate was 70% when Kennedy was president. Baddd argument. So, you're a guy showing a whole lot of partiality saying there's no difference between the twp parties? It's like saying because you have tits and a vagina, it doesn't make you a woman I mean it could be, it's just not very likely. Come on, just go on Breitbart a couple times and shit all over them. Just a couple times If you can't even earn a little street cred, what are we supposed to think?

Thread: Tiny House Living, Off the Grid? Here's How to Do it in Style
[-] 2 points by ZenDog (20548) from South Burlington, VT 9 hours ago

I'm saying the confusion has the potential to be of some small benefit to the Senator at reelection among Tennessee preppers . . . and there really doesn't seem to be a down side - any embarrassment accrues to the confused as opposed to the reelection campaign or the author.

What do you care?

.

And I've never voted for a repelican for President. Ever.

Thread: Tiny House Living, Off the Grid? Here's How to Do it in Style
[-] -1 points by gnomunny (5647) from St Louis, MO 9 hours ago

Jeffords. I did read that. I assumed we were talking about a presidential candidate. My mistake.

And correct me if I'm wrong, but are you still asserting that "Little House" Lamar is the same guy as "Senator" Lamar?

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