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I'm sorry, I didn't catch where in the story that the US is trying to take over anywhere. They're holding annual naval drills with an ally. China is the one threatening confrontation, yet you accuse the US of invasion?
Would you be fine with China doing drills in teh Gulf of Mexico with the Mexican government?
If it's in international waters, then of course. That's besides my point though. Reneye is accusing the US of trying to invade something. The story doesn't mention anything of that sort. She's lying, and spreading misinformation.
Well, if they did, I think you would see how our gov would react to that. And it wouldnt be a press release.
Lighten up Francis. It's INTERNATIONAL waters. They may think they own the south china sea, but they don't. In international waters, all is fair game.
Maybe if they don't like it, they should stay the F out of our government computer systems.
Again, if it was in international waters, there would be nothing the US could do. They can say they "Strongly oppose China's actions," but beyond that, the government would not have a military confrontation, since they would have no grounds to stand on.
Unless they simply pull another Tonkin move...
We bomb soverign nations for much less than posturing these days. Granted, they are third world countries, but we are bombing at will regardless.
Are you ok with this going on over there and the Chinese actually here building the USA's roads and bridges due to an alleged shortage of welders?
The US has been building military bases off China's shores in increasing numbers. Why does our nation need nearly 1000 military bases world wide?
I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the story you're referring to. If these Chinese are actually here legally, and no laws are being broken, I can't complain. ...Same as Mexicans that travel here legally to work. I've been to countries where people from China, India, or other developing countries travel to a foreign country and work for a pittance.
...But they're working. I find it funny when you have people that aren't willing to work a minimum wage job (or relocate somewhere were there are jobs), when people in other countries are willing to work a lot harder, to earn a lot less.
Do you have a sources for the comments about building bases "off China's shores" and the "nearly 1,000 military bases" comments?
Yes I do.
So you have no problem with Communist China Owned Corporations being granted government contracts and bringing their own Chinese citizens here to work, while millions of Americans are unemployed? So long as those getting the kick backs pass laws to make it all legal, right?
I wasn't just asking if you had sources, I was hoping you would provide them. I'll take you at your word, but I'm interested in reading them myself.
Are there no Americans abroad working in other countries? I understand there's millions unemployed, but when there are people that would rather take a handout from the government, than work a minimum wage job, I can't really complain about it.
There are jobs in America that Americans simply won't do, and would rather be unemployed. I don't see too many Americans working farms or doing jobs that millions of Mexicans are willing to (legally and illegally) are willing to come to America to do.
Don't get me wrong. Its not that I don't have reservations, its just that I've come to a conclusion, that there are people today that are unemployed, and will either not take the jobs that are available, or do what it takes to get a job (whether its working outside your specialty, or moving to where there are jobs). And I can't throw my arms up about Chinese working in America, when there are Americans that work abroad, and unemployed in America would rather sit on a corner and blame/demonize companies and the success of others for their lot in life.
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You don't see the nation building taking place in the last 10 years? You can't be that blind.
I don't see how you link a threat from China on an annual military exercise to the US invading a country (and China, of all places). The US regularly holds exercises with its allies.
...And again, this is an annual exercise. If the US was going to invade China (which is such an idiotic idea to even think of) wouldn't they have done it on one of the previous years they've held this annual exercise?
Next time the US holds military exercises in the Persian Gulf, or with South Korea, or Japan, or with NATO, are you going to make a post claiming the US is going to invade countries near the locations of those exercises? You're being a fear monger, get over it.
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There's oil in them there seas, and you can toss Malaysia, Viet Nam and Indonesia into the mix, at the very least.
Personally, I can't help but feel all this posturing from China, and Russia, isn't just that. Posturing. Frankly, it sounds all too Cold Warish, doesn't it? You know how these people operate. I think the posturing is for the media, and to keep the populace on edge, while other things are going on behind the curtain. Personally, I wouldn't be surprised if the three respective leaders weren't figuring out how to equitably divide the spoils between them. 'Shock Doctrine' is coming to mind.
Philippines are an ally of ours, we are holding naval drills with them. We will never be at war with China. They sure as shit dot want it because of the economic hold they have on us. Besides a war like that would not end well. Yes there are tensions right now and yes there will always be tensions but if the Chinese threaten an ally we cannot just stand by. The Phillipeans have helped us a lot with the gwot. So shut the fuck up.
The warmongers (banks) will not stop until the US is a disaster, at which time they will just move to the BRIC countries to start pillaging the 21st century.