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Forum Post: A Serious Problem w This Forum - Read this

Posted 1 year ago on Dec. 17, 2012, 11:59 a.m. EST by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA
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Not sure if i can even post from my old account so here is the post from this one:

I just read over Auditors post:

"Don't dare go against the talking points from the left. Tolerance on this forum means pretending to be anything other than a white male on this forum. Staying withing the rules means allowing VQ, shooz, and whatever other sock they're using, can call you a shill or right wing wacko an you are not allowed to retaliate against this barrage of soft defamation they throw at you. Because if you do, you'll be banned. You will tow the Democratic party line or we will accuse you of being a republican and if that doesn't work, we'll ban you. Gee, I wonder why Occupy no longer Occupies this forum?"

While i can't say i agree with all of it - i agree with a majority of it. There are about 5-10 individuals on this forum that flood it - and if you have any difference of opinion from theirs, you'll get booted from the forum. Anyone can easily see who these individuals are by looking at the recent comment section at any time of the day and see the flood of posts from them.

Case and point - i was debating with a forum moderator the other day and going back and forth. His argument was constant attacks about me being a republican shill - even though I'm not a republican. Then it turned into attacks against me saying that someone with a negative rating should be booted from the forums. While i realize there are obvious trolls on the forums - i am not one and it is pretty obvious with the posts I contribute to this site that I am not one. I'm not on here to constantly bash obama like i see from these other blatantly obvious trolls. The problem with booting people off here because of their rating is the fact that there are about 5-10 individuals on this forum that travel in a pack and post on here hundreds of times a day - if they decide they don't like you, you're down voted to oblivion.

Not only that - as i was debating with this mod the other day my account suddenly dropped by 100 points instantaneously. It wasn't from down votes - it was someone tampering with my account. I'm not claiming to know who did it - but it was blatantly obvious it was someone who had access to my account as my rating dropped in seconds by 100 points.

This is the type of thing that this forum should stand firmly against - trying to force particular information on people and not let them see other information. This is what North Korea does to their people - what China does to their people. This is forcing your will on the people by minimizing the information they're allowed to look at. It is a dictatorial notion. This is not what Occupy is supposed to be about. There is nothing wrong with open debate - even if the two parties disagree. And just because you may not agree with me DOESN"T make me a republican shill.

So because this account has been tampered with - I made a new account John32, and will continue to post from that topics that are not designed to attack democrats or republicans - but to inform people of information they don't get on the MSM.

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[-] 5 points by LeoYo (5909) 1 year ago

Coming across your previous posts, I've always wondered why you had such a high rating of negative points as nothing I've ever read from you has ever seemed to deserve such opposition.

[-] 1 points by shoozTroll (17632) 1 year ago

How about a positive comment on unionization?

There are many who come here to bash unions on one level or another.

Are you one of those?

http://occupywallstreet.net/story/low-wage-workers%E2%80%99-wildcat-winter-spreads-chicago

[-] 1 points by TrevorMnemonic (5827) 1 year ago

there are many groups and users with several different usernames on the forum pushing their agendas.

Welcome to the internet.

From right wingers bashing liberals to liberal bashing centrist democrats. They're all on the forum.

Just push through it. Do your thing.

[-] 1 points by bensdad (8977) 1 year ago

"I was debating with a forum moderator the other day"
SPECIFICALLY who was that moderator?
and what sbject were you posting about?
FYI - I am a white male & know a few other posters - they all are white male
why care?
points? who cares?
this is not a beauty contest


if you are telling the truth on a subject,
I dont care where you are on the spectrum

[-] -1 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

Not gonna name names as to who i was talking to because i have no proof that that was the individual who did it.

I agree with you on the white males comment - hence one of the reasons why i said i didn't agree with everything written in Auditors post.

Points - I'm pretty sure when you get enough negative ones it doesn't let you post....and it doesn't let you vote anymore - at least that's what happened to my old account. Maybe mine was just tampered with so i couldn't post any longer...or there is some set number of points where your comments are no longer visible by others. Not sure what the deal is.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You reposted my name.! That's naming names, what do you mean "your not gonna name names"? LOL

kinda dishonest. maybe that's why you get downvoted.

[-] -3 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

I didn't name names...that's not my post. Don't get upset at me if you've been pissing people off on here that choose to single you out.

And i do recall saying right here on this thread that the mod i was talking to wasn't you VQ....right in this very thread...which is what the convo between me and bensdad was referring to.

So who's being dishonest then?

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

My name appears (reposted) in YOUR thread. So since you claim "your not gonna name names" you are being dishonest.

And I don't mind pissin the right people off. Be informed that their (and your) intimidation tactics of singling out me (and a "about 5-10 individuals") are weak and serve only to strengthen the resolve to challenge anti OWS rhetoric, & speak up for the 99%.

Your weak childish efforts cannot stop the truth. We are relentless, We are legion, We do not forgive, we do not forget, Knowledge is free, you will be assimilated, Resistance is futile.

Expect us!

;)

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

No one (is - correction) banned because they don't agree with someone, & no one is banned for being republican. You have proof of this? No! Cause there ain't no proof. Because it ain't happening.

[-] -2 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

I didn't say it was you VQ and I didn't say I was banned - i said i had a massive reduction of points almost instantaneously. Although it does seem I can't post from that account now.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

I didn't say you said it was me! So that is a ridiculous protestation on your part..

I refuted your claim from the post above " and if you have any difference of opinion from theirs, you'll get booted from the forum."

Do you think we should downvote people we like & agree with. That seems counter intuitive.

Do you vote? Do you vote down comments you don't like? I think that is ok.

And to compare it to China, North Korea is paranoid extremist and alarmist. Perhaps that was a joke?

[-] -2 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

I read your post too fast i guess because i saw:

"No one I banned because they don't agree with someone"

So i took the "I" in your comment to mean you....think it's supposed to say "is".

I don't know what happened - but my posts were no longer visible....i don't know if it's from the amount of negative points or something else. My votes no longer would register either.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

My bad. Just corrected. Thx.

But in regards to your other comments:

I refuted your claim from the post above " and if you have any difference of opinion from theirs, you'll get booted from the forum."

Do you think we should downvote people we like & agree with. That seems counter intuitive.

Do you vote? Do you vote down comments you don't like? I think that is ok.

And to compare it to China, North Korea is paranoid extremist and alarmist. Perhaps that was a joke?

[-] 0 points by GypsyKing (8719) 1 year ago

If it was true then why would we be swarmed by these people who have no legitimate buisness here in the first place? Do we go on their forums and harass, intimidate, sow seeds of division. and mess with people's psyche's, and critical thinking skills?

This alone should tell everyone all they need to know about the low-down tactics of the Republican Party.

[-] -2 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Its the same wherever you go on the internet. A bunch of lowlifes that dont really do much else beside dominate chat boards and forums creating the illusion that they represent that specific party/group/cause.

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[-] -1 points by SoniaFromPoland (-55) 1 year ago

Just a heads up. This forum changed hands around a year ago and there is no way of knowing who actually controls this forum. All endorsements of it have been removed and the Occupy account on twitter doesn't recognize the forum either. No 99% or Occupy account in social media tweets or retweets or shares or likes anything posted from this forum. The slant makes it look like moveon and the response of "supporters" and "trolls" in unity to this accusation makes it very believable. I doubt seriously that it is the practice of law enforcement to do anything more than look in, interaction seems unlikely.

PS, the trolls are fakes that help cultivate the atmosphere here. They are actually socks of the same users calling themselves supporters, including those with Mod powers.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Do you speak in some official capacity? Who is posting the official OWS new items announcing activities, demonstrations and efforts to improve the lives of the 99%.

I should say that I submit you are absolutely wrong. Everything you've suggested just sounds dishonest, duplicitous, & paranoid.

More likely you have an ulterior motive to destroy confidence in this valuable, and effective forum.

[-] -1 points by SoniaFromPoland (-55) 1 year ago

The news on here is reposted from official site that provide project and news information, like occupywallstreet.net it was convincing for a while, I admit. This is also why they launched a new and totally separate website over the last year.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

OWS is posting the official news items, and OWS continues to moderate and deal with all abuse. You are grossly mischaracterizing the reality based on some paranoid fantasy you have created in your own mind.

Which new website are you referring to?

[-] 0 points by SoniaFromPoland (-55) 1 year ago

The official news and posts on the official website have links for contact and interaction to the projects. All the links in the "official" posts here simply redirect you to those resources. There is 0 interaction between the operators of this forum and the Occupy movement in any capacity.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Wrong! How would you know.?

You have some insite from Poland that I don't have from NYC?

Prove it.

What new OWS website are you referring to? (2nd time I've asked) Didja make that up too.?

[-] 0 points by SoniaFromPoland (-55) 1 year ago

Funny that you pretend not to know, or that you really don't know but claim to support Occupy. Either way, your feigned ignorance is more for the merry.

[-] 1 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You are avoiding the questions.

Do you have some insite from Poland that I don't have from NYC?

Prove that we aren't involved with this forum!

What new OWS website are you referring to? (3nd time I've asked) Didja make that up too.?

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

I'm enjoying watching your clumsy little dance.

[-] -1 points by SoniaFromPoland (-55) 1 year ago

This is for my entertainment. Not overly concerned with any graces you feel I should be accommodating. It's not my fault someone thought it would be ok to employ low IQ idiologs for this. But then no intelligent person would think it ok to abuse a forum that purports to expand the voice of the people for partisan gain.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Put up or shut the fuck up. The longer that your mouth runs the worse you look.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Let's roll Daddy-O.

[-] 1 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Why do you represent the 1%, puppet? How much do they pay you?

[-] 1 points by SoniaFromPoland (-55) 1 year ago

I can show several instances where users have been banned for repeating the same comment over and over, with the excuse that it's spam, including one poster who kept posting the link to an ABA memo regarding the paid infiltration of the Occupy movement. Why doesn't this seem to effect you?

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Sounds like spam, that SHOULD be banned. No?

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Why do you represent the 1%, puppet? How much do they pay you?

[-] 1 points by SoniaFromPoland (-55) 1 year ago

What's the point of attacking people who call you out. It's not like this forum will suddenly gain legitimacy. It's just you 3 paid posters and 1-2 who have nothing better to do. I'm starting to question your sanity.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Your passive aggressive shit doesn't work.

[-] 0 points by GirlFriday (17435) 1 year ago

Why do you represent the 1%, puppet? How much do they pay you?

[-] -1 points by jrhirsch (4714) from Sun City, CA 1 year ago

Looks as though Occupy has it's own set of anonymous puppeteers pulling the strings on this forum. Whatever kind of direct democracy they preach, they sure don't practice it. Who are they?

[-] 1 points by GypsyKing (8719) 1 year ago

How are them oil company profits coming in JR? Yee-hawww!

[-] -3 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

I bought a bag of peanuts yesterday, no idea why... just in a nutty mood I guess. And needless to say, in today's imperfect world of quality control, there were a few in that bag that were slightly over roasted. In short, they did not appear as scrumptious and delectable; I was not enticed.

I tend to think of VQ as just another burnt peanut. But throwing the whole bag on the fire would not serve my end goal, would it? I love burnt toast - burnt to "black as hell" is my idea of bread roasted to perfection; I just love it: And I've been known to intentionally charcoal broil a steak or two. So there is no doubt, sooner or later I will also devour VQ.

[-] 3 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

have at it. Amateur.

Better people have tried and been chewed up and spit out! Usually they come back for more with a new sock, or just avoid engaging with the truth I speak.

How often have I chewed you up? LOL

[-] -2 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

Shit, dozens of times. But you and your kind are a virtual non-entity here now.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

In your dreams sucka!

We rule! You drool.

[-] -1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

Strange... did you hear someone say something?

Hark, the Herald Angels sing?

No, no, this was more of a... oh, never mind; must have been the TV.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

Can you hear me now? LOSER!

[-] -1 points by Theeighthpieceuv8 (-32) from Seven Sisters, Wales 1 year ago

There it is again... the back door perhaps? The neighbor's cat?

[+] -5 points by 3roundmagsonly (-63) 1 year ago

Lets be honest. Free speech is the backbone of this amazing countryl OWS does not believe in free speech, so by extension, this site wants America destroyed.

[-] 2 points by VQkag2 (16478) 1 year ago

You have free speech here. What speech of yours is not allowed?

[-] 0 points by john32 (-272) from Pittsburgh, PA 1 year ago

I think 99.99999% of OWS does believe in free speech...and very much so....all you have to do was look at the outrage over the free speech zones that were set up.

[+] -4 points by 3roundmagsonly (-63) 1 year ago

No, they dont.

[-] -1 points by OTP (-203) from Tampa, FL 1 year ago

Yes they do. You just cant waste people's time at a GA with the usual Democrats Unite and Republicans Suck nonsense.

The 40-70 generation played that game to a tee. Look where it got all of em.